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'11 | R12 | Sun | Dragons 24-18 Tigers | WIN Jubilee #nrldratig

R12: STG v WST


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851

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Saints won,and are the best team,but at full strength we will test these blokes,add,Lawrence,Tuqiri,Ellis,Galloway,McKinnon,Payten and some support players,and we trouble the hell out of the dragons.
 

DRAGONZ_RULE

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I agree with Vic ... at full strength, the Tigers would pose serious questions to us at full strength too.

We never seem to play our best footy against Wests .. not sure what it is, but pretty much ever since that day we smacked them 50-0 at Kogarah in 2004, we haven't played an excellent 80 minutes against them.

In any case, there's a reason the Tigers were put as 2nd favourites to win the Premiership pre-season ... once they get their players back, the issue for them will be trying to make the top 4, because it is not easy to make the GF from 5-8, even though the Eels and Roosters have happened to do it the last 2 years.
 

MacDougall

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Saints won,and are the best team,but at full strength we will test these blokes,add,Lawrence,Tuqiri,Ellis,Galloway,McKinnon,Payten and some support players,and we trouble the hell out of the dragons.

Uhhh hello, no we won't. Haven't you been listening to the Saints fans. We won't cuz we're Westies and Benji banged Fulton's missus. Get a clue.
 

Didgi

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I'm not trying to justify the loss. We were decent in attack, probably making more linebreaks than the Dragons, but woeful in defence. The Dragons weren't at their best but that's understandable given the number of players backing up from origin.

I dont think you posted in the thread before my comment. I was talking about your friends, who are still crying their bitter tears.
 
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Saints won,and are the best team,but at full strength we will test these blokes,add,Lawrence,Tuqiri,Ellis,Galloway,McKinnon,Payten and some support players,and we trouble the hell out of the dragons.

At the same time the Dragons had a number of players backing up from origin and gave away more penalties and dropped more ball today than they have cumulatively for the season (maybe a bit of an exaggeration).
 

beave

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Correct decision, learn the rules.

I've been looking everywhere on the net for the rules and after reading the 08 international rules, I still would have though the offence of being offside at a 20m tap in defence would have resulted in a penalty at the 30m mark.............
 
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I agree with Vic ... at full strength, the Tigers would pose serious questions to us at full strength too.

We never seem to play our best footy against Wests .. not sure what it is, but pretty much ever since that day we smacked them 50-0 at Kogarah in 2004, we haven't played an excellent 80 minutes against them.

In any case, there's a reason the Tigers were put as 2nd favourites to win the Premiership pre-season ... once they get their players back, the issue for them will be trying to make the top 4, because it is not easy to make the GF from 5-8, even though the Eels and Roosters have happened to do it the last 2 years.

thanks for bringing that back up :p
worst 2 weeks ever losing to dragons 50-0 than roosters 56-0:crazy:
 
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Uhhh hello, no we won't. Haven't you been listening to the Saints fans. We won't cuz we're Westies and Benji banged Fulton's missus. Get a clue.

Whether Benji was banging his missus or not, it didn't excuse his performance today. The sooner he pisses off to Penrith the better.
 

thommo4pm

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I dont normally weigh in on these threads so i wouldnt know.It's pretty obvious though i suppose . Much of the squad are the same numpties who regularly got flogged in 2008 before Bennett ...

Regularly got flogged in 2008?
Not bad for a side who was up the top of the table for a while in 2008.
And were a victory in the final round short of finishing 4th or 5th.

Don't let your Dragons hate get in the way of a good story though.
 

cleary89

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I've been looking everywhere on the net for the rules and after reading the 08 international rules, I still would have though the offence of being offside at a 20m tap in defence would have resulted in a penalty at the 30m mark.............

Any penalty given at a restart of play including the 20m optional restart happens where the restart is. Only exception is with drop outs which cant be on the try line for obvious reasons.
 

Dragon

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Scrappy 2nd half. Tigers will make the semis even playing poorly because the rest of the comp is so sh*t. When they get fully fit and decide to turn up they can can go all the way
 

thommo4pm

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its the equivalent positions of players out

our whole left side attack where we score 75% of our tries is on the sidelines. it would be the same as you guys having creagh/cooper/morris out

the dragons are out and away the best team in the comp atm however if you dont think that on our day at full strength we cant beat you then you have rocks in your head. yes the dragons would still be deserved favourites but im entitled to be confident in us.

I must have rocks in my head then.
 

MacDougall

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Any penalty given at a restart of play including the 20m optional restart happens where the restart is. Only exception is with drop outs which cant be on the try line for obvious reasons.

The penalty wasn't given at the restart of play. It was given moments later for offside. A penalty at the restart of play when the rules are read like that would only apply to penalties for dissent if in defense and if in possession being offside and getting involved in the play, taking the optional kick restart and kicking it out on the full or tapping it in front of the line. In any case of an offside penalty the penalty is always awarded on the mark where the defenders should have been standing initially. Incorrect call.
 

bottle

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Ted Ellery, you are running a great risk of making us think that all Tiges fans aren't sooks and whingers. Stop talking sense!!
 

MacDougall

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I must have rocks in my head then.

You beat us by 6 and we were missing our entire left side attack, our starting fullback, our best front rower and our most senior forward and you still think we can't beat you? What's your excuse for winning by 6? Origin backing up? Puhlease. Merrin, Boyd, Creagh, Gasnier, Soward and Morris wouldn't have worked up a sweat on Wednesday night. The only Dragons player that has any right to be tired would have been Beau Scott.
 

MacDougall

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Ted Ellery, you are running a great risk of making us think that all Tiges fans aren't sooks and whingers. Stop talking sense!!

Nobody is saying "oh noes Tigers was robbed today". Speaking for myself, I just came in here and all I saw was a bunch of Dragons fans circle jerking about how good their team is so I put my Tigers hat on and started having at it. Dragons beat us today, were better, beat us by 2 tries. Tigers did really well and had better of the stats. Was a close game but if both sides are at full strength and completely rested, I'm confident the result would be different.
 

Vic Mackey

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I agree with Vic ... at full strength, the Tigers would pose serious questions to us at full strength too.

We never seem to play our best footy against Wests .. not sure what it is, but pretty much ever since that day we smacked them 50-0 at Kogarah in 2004, we haven't played an excellent 80 minutes against them.

In any case, there's a reason the Tigers were put as 2nd favourites to win the Premiership pre-season ... once they get their players back, the issue for them will be trying to make the top 4, because it is not easy to make the GF from 5-8, even though the Eels and Roosters have happened to do it the last 2 years.

Good post and exactly what I mean.

I said if both teams are fully fit the dragons would start favourites but I'd be confident of a good showing. I find it very hard to believe saints fans wouldn't be worried about a 17 containing Lawrence, tuqiri, Marshall, Ellis, farah etc
 

beave

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The penalty wasn't given at the restart of play. It was given moments later for offside. A penalty at the restart of play when the rules are read like that would only apply to penalties for dissent if in defense and if in possession being offside and getting involved in the play, taking the optional kick restart and kicking it out on the full or tapping it in front of the line. In any case of an offside penalty the penalty is always awarded on the mark where the defenders should have been standing initially. Incorrect call.

this.

I'm not trying to stir shit with my posts either, but this is why I was bemused with the call. In the case of an offside player at a kick off, the penalty is at halfway where the offence occurred. I might have to go an read the rule book again from cover to cover.
 
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