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'11 | Rivalry R19 | Sat | Panthers 23-22* Eels | Centrebet

R19: PEN v PAR


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Twizzle

Administrator
Staff member
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Burt didn't walk away and there was no logical reason to stop the clock.

It was all very confusing even the commentators had no idea what happened and why it happened.
 

boxhead

First Grade
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Everyone in the world except Panthers fans and some neutral fans can see that at least one of the calls he made at the end there was wrong and the game should have finished. It's not that hard to understand.
In the end though, it's our own fault for not holding out for the last two tries.
 

GongPanther

Referee
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28,676
Burt prevented the ball from leaving his hands with the intent of trying to count the time down.

Pretty simple stuff when you look at it.

All players do it and its been a time wasting practice for years.
 

bileduct

Coach
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17,832
Ive read the rule book pal, i dont recall this specific rule, and ive had no reason to bother to revisit it, because its not been relevant until the past fortnight.
Uh huh, no specific reason to revisit it yet you're still happy to blather on about something you don't actually know anything about.

Just like you don't know Todd Carney, but you'd like everyone to think you do.
Im arguing the merits of the rule because it defies common sense, and opens itself up to interpretation by individual referees, which creates inconsistency and then anger from the fans when one week its ruled one way, and the next another.
The only inconsistency I have seen in the ruling thus far has been idiots like you who have not read it but claim to know what it means.

If you like inconsistency for the sake of the rule book so be it, ive said for a long time id rather the referee's be consistent across the board and be wrong according to some of the ridiculous rules of the game, they some of them enforce the rules and others apply common sense.
Please give me one example of how the rule has been applied inconsistently.

Oh wait, try reading the rule first.
The rule needs to be changed, its a poorly written and enforced rule that opens up for too many differing interpretations.
How is it poorly written if you don't know what the rule is and you've not read the rule book recently?

How has it been enforced differently?

You have no idea what you are talking about, as per usual.
But i do enjoy how angry i make you :lol:
You should use the word merkin more, makes you sound tough and intimidating for sure.
I actually did use the word merkin, you clown.

You don't make me angry at all. I enjoy pointing out how much of a nob you are.
 

bileduct

Coach
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17,832
Everyone in the world except Panthers fans and some neutral fans can see that at least one of the calls he made at the end there was wrong and the game should have finished. It's not that hard to understand.
In the end though, it's our own fault for not holding out for the last two tries.
None of the calls that were made at the end were wrong.

The only calls I saw that were wrong were Hayne kicking downfield and Burt electing to take the tackle.

Parramatta are simply a dumb team.
 

bileduct

Coach
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Burt didn't walk away and there was no logical reason to stop the clock.

It was all very confusing even the commentators had no idea what happened and why it happened.
The only people that were confused were Eels fans and dumbshits.
 

skeepe

Immortal
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48,371
Everyone in the world except Panthers fans and some neutral fans can see that at least one of the calls he made at the end there was wrong and the game should have finished. It's not that hard to understand.
In the end though, it's our own fault for not holding out for the last two tries.

The people who can't see that the call was wrong are the people who know the rules.
 

B-Tron 3000

Juniors
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1,803
Burt prevented the ball from leaving his hands with the intent of trying to count the time down.
Wrong.

The ref callled time off while Burt was standing there, immediately after the tackle, then Ben Smith took the ball and walked off with it.

If he had called time off when Ben Smith took it, fair enough. But to call time off immediately after the tackles is a nonsense.
 

skeepe

Immortal
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48,371
Wrong.

The ref callled time off while Burt was standing there, immediately after the tackle, then Ben Smith took the ball and walked off with it.

If he had called time off when Ben Smith took it, fair enough. But to call time off immediately after the tackles is a nonsense.

The referee ruled a handover, and Burt refused to allow the Panthers players to take it from him. The referee was well within his rights to call time off once that happened.
 

Y2Eel

First Grade
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8,176
I dont see any difference in the two events
whilst both tries probably could have and would have been scored without the extra assistance, it denies the defender a fair crack to stop the try

i havent read the rule, and id be surprised if you have either, nor if most have. But if the rule is indeed written so that Parra's is a fair try and Thiaday isnt, then the rule needs to change, it creates too much grey area. The rule should be clear cut, you're either able to come in and help push you're player forward or you're not... it shouldnt have anything to do with whether a defender has been disadvantaged because by virtue of others rules, such as ruck dominance and the fact in that circumstance last night a try was scored, the defender is always disadvantaged once a 2nd push comes from non ball carrying player, no matter where they are on the field.

A push can result in a try, or on the 50 metre line, a dominate run by ball carrier, hence quick play the ball, and momentum. It push from someone other than the ball carrier is always disadvantaging the defense unfairly, which is why as you rightly point out, we tried to exploit this years back and the refs rightly cracked down on us for it.

make it black and white, its what lands us in the shite every year, too many rules left to the inept interpretations of the referees.

The difference is In the SOO game Third in Thiaday pushed the NSW player which is againt the rules and last night the eels player on touched his team mate...
 

Y2Eel

First Grade
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Absolutely no way it was a charge down, fair call on the play on... if Parra fans want to blame someone, its luke burt, when he fielded the ball, he should have looked up and seen the refereee, had he done so and run back into his ingoal or ran into touch, by the time the drop out/scrum go done, the game is over. Dumb play by burt

the next to blame is ben smith, had he left the ball where it was, the panthers have to play on immediately to get their last tackle, they werent remotely organised, the fact that dopey ben smith ran off with the ball ment the ref had no option but to call time off and allow the panthers to set themselves.

dumb play, well officiated.


Actually they have changed the way a charge down is being officiated this year usually its not a charge down like what happened last night but alot of times this year the refs have ruled it a charge down due to the player going to tackle the player they called six again if the ball was kicked into him.. I dont care either way eels should have just ran it dead...

Ben Smith didnt touch the ball when the ref called time out...
 
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what a game this was, panthers desperation at the end jennings bursting through the hole going all in and dropping a spot on grubber to even the game at the death
 

maple_69

Bench
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50/50 call on calling time off but Parra had the benefit of a one sided ruck officiation, then had their pants pulled down.

Enjoy Mad Monday parra.
 

koal4e

Juniors
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196
reffing has been a bit odd recently and Im not sure on the decision myself by the ref....either way we could have done something different with the play that would have won us the match rather than lose. Its not the refs fault Burt didnt use his intelligence.
 

GongPanther

Referee
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The referee ruled a handover, and Burt refused to allow the Panthers players to take it from him. The referee was well within his rights to call time off once that happened.

Thank-you,Skeep.

You nailed it in three lines which was better described by you than the last 440,000 pro-Parra posts in this thread.

IMO,being a fan also means to accept things that one cannot change and I can't believe the blind bias that is being shown here by some Parra fans.

Maybe its more to do with the fact that they are finding hard to fathom that their season is over so early in the year.

One has to realise that sh!t happens and it also happens to other teams besides their own club.

What goes around,comes around....We all have to deal with it.
 

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