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[GongPanther]

ohh and if thiaday's try in origin was not allowed, there is no way that parra try should have been

Penrith weren't the best side, but i think they did do enough to win

We were playing with our backs to the wall.

Granted,Parra are not a bad side these days and their form as been on the improvement.

That push over try I'm willing to concede that it seemed legal due to the fact that the Parra player only pushed his own.(although I'm still green on the actual ruling,but I'd hate to see a Grand Final decided on a grey ruling such as this)

Any way,every team has its day and parra should have no trouble with the Dogs next week.

They'll bounce back.

 

[Fibroman]

The refereeing was disgraceful. Both sides stood 2-3 metres off side the whole game which inhibits the likes of Jennings and Hayne.

 

[bileduct]

ohh and if thiaday's try in origin was not allowed, there is no way that parra try should have been

Bullshit. The rules are clear, try reading them.

 

[thommo4pm]

Why'd he stop the clock then?

Exactly, the game should have been over before Penrith had a chance to play the ball.
There was no reason to call time off right there.

 

[bileduct]

Supporting players can assist the ball carrier by pushing only the ball carrier and not the defending players. It isn't just while scoring tries either, it is anywhere on the field.

Canberra attempted to exploit this a few years ago by having extra attacking players push a wrapped up player forward. It lasted all of about two games before finally being penalised for interfering with defenders and they stopped using it.

 

[bileduct]

Exactly, the game should have been over before Penrith had a chance to play the ball.
There was no reason to call time off right there.

Wasn't the clock stopped because Burt tried to walk away with the ball instead of handing it over?

 

[thommo4pm]

That other peanut was worse. The refereeing has been terrible this year. Players laying in the ruck, players not getting back. Forward passes missed quite terrible.

How come that McGuire try given & when Thaiday did similar last week it was no try?

I agree, I think Shortall is the worst ref in the game.
He is arrogant, and his rulings at times are baffling.

 

[bileduct]

The decision was fair.

Parramatta can only blame themselves. That would have to be the dumbest loss from certain victory I've ever seen.

 

[bileduct]

I am not so certain the refereeing has gotten worse this year.

One thing I am certain has gotten worse is the average forum punter's understanding of the rules.

 

[Ladmate]

Don't blame the charge down. How could they let them score in the last play...

 

[Raider_69]

Bullshit. The rules are clear, try reading them.

I dont see any difference in the two events
whilst both tries probably could have and would have been scored without the extra assistance, it denies the defender a fair crack to stop the try

i havent read the rule, and id be surprised if you have either, nor if most have. But if the rule is indeed written so that Parra's is a fair try and Thiaday isnt, then the rule needs to change, it creates too much grey area. The rule should be clear cut, you're either able to come in and help push you're player forward or you're not... it shouldnt have anything to do with whether a defender has been disadvantaged because by virtue of others rules, such as ruck dominance and the fact in that circumstance last night a try was scored, the defender is always disadvantaged once a 2nd push comes from non ball carrying player, no matter where they are on the field.

A push can result in a try, or on the 50 metre line, a dominate run by ball carrier, hence quick play the ball, and momentum. It push from someone other than the ball carrier is always disadvantaging the defense unfairly, which is why as you rightly point out, we tried to exploit this years back and the refs rightly cracked down on us for it.

make it black and white, its what lands us in the shite every year, too many rules left to the inept interpretations of the referees.

 

[thommo4pm]

I am not so certain the refereeing has gotten worse this year.

One thing I am certain has gotten worse is the average forum punter's understanding of the rules.

Not sure about that, some of the ref's coming through aren't quite good enough to keep up with the pace of the game.
This leads to errors from them.

I don't think Maxwell is as bad as everyone states he is, he does making some bewildering calls at times, but he isn't as arrogant as some of the others.

 

[thommo4pm]

Don't blame the charge down. How could they let them score in the last play...

That is true also.
The play went to both sides of the field, should have been shut down before the kick was put in.

 

[bileduct]

i havent read the rule, and id be surprised if you have either, nor if most have

This tells me everything I need to know about you.

Just like how you like to imply you know people that you actually don't, you like to argue the merits of a particular rule WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS.

Go and read the f**king rule book you merkin. I read it after seeing Mogg get penalised for pushing Schifcofske (pretty sure it was these two) upfield a few seasons ago. It was no surprise to me when Thaiday's try was disallowed... because I knew the f**king rules!

 

[bileduct]

That is true also.
The play went to both sides of the field, should have been shut down before the kick was put in.

There were opportunities to close out the game even before that. Burt should have just run the ball out over in the ingoal and time would have expired a few seconds later. Dumb play.

 

[thommo4pm]

There were opportunities to close out the game even before that. Burt should have just run the ball out over in the ingoal and time would have expired a few seconds later. Dumb play.

I agree totally. I do remember thinking when he picked the ball up, just run it over the dead ball line.
It's never a bad thing though to watch Parra lose.
The Dogs & Parra both losing in a weekend always makes for a good weekend.

 

[Raider_69]

This tells me everything I need to know about you.

Just like how you like to imply you know people that you actually don't, you like to argue the merits of a particular rule WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS.

Go and read the f**king rule book you merkin. I read it after seeing Mogg get penalised for pushing Schifcofske (pretty sure it was these two) upfield a few seasons ago. It was no surprise to me when Thaiday's try was disallowed... because I knew the f**king rules!

Ive read the rule book pal, i dont recall this specific rule, and ive had no reason to bother to revisit it, because its not been relevant until the past fortnight.

Im arguing the merits of the rule because it defies common sense, and opens itself up to interpretation by individual referees, which creates inconsistency and then anger from the fans when one week its ruled one way, and the next another.
If you like inconsistency for the sake of the rule book so be it, ive said for a long time id rather the referee's be consistent across the board and be wrong according to some of the ridiculous rules of the game, they some of them enforce the rules and others apply common sense.

The rule needs to be changed, its a poorly written and enforced rule that opens up for too many differing interpretations.

But i do enjoy how angry i make you :lol:
You should use the word merkin more, makes you sound tough and intimidating for sure.

 

[GongPanther]

Anyone noticed for the last try ( on the head-on shot during the replay) when Jennings did that last right step and about a 1/2 dozen Parra players went flying the other way?

Funny and brilliant sh!t at the same time.:lol:

 

[B-Tron 3000]

Anyone noticed for the last try ( on the head-on shot during the replay) when Jennings did that last right step and about a 1/2 dozen Parra players went flying the other way?

Funny and brilliant sh!t at the same time.:lol:

It was great play by Jennings, and unlucky for Parra - we had so many coming across in desperate cover that we didn't have anyone back on the inside. Jennings summed it up brilliantly with that kick.

 

[B-Tron 3000]

Wasn't the clock stopped because Burt tried to walk away with the ball instead of handing it over?

No, the moronic ref stopped the clock while Burt still had the ball.

It was total rubbish, and has opened up a whole can of worms regarding how to deal with stopping the clock in the last couple of minutes.

To be honest, the NRL should have dealt with this a long time ago - it has been obvious that no-one really knows how they should handle the clock towards the end of the game, and whether or not they should treat it the same as the rest of the game.