'14 // Women in League R10 // Mon // Sea Eagles v Knights // Brookvale-

[Sea_Eagles_Rock]

I'm really not sure how Gidley missed the kick at goal from the penalty or kick the ball dead. Sure Boyd shouldn't have taken the shot, but missing that goal was really the killer in the end.

Pretty tough game for the Knights. They deserved the win, but couldn't hold on.

While I'm stunned at the winning field goal, there are still moments I feel DCE needs to take his game to the next level. Setting up for a field goal earlier when they ran the ball was a poor option. While I felt Littlejohn shouldn't have taken his shot as well, DCE has the experience and composure to take control before things get out of control. I guess he did in the end though. He just made it hard for himself. He is a freak.

 

[Big Pete]

You can be such a deadset dribbler sometimes.

We had several tackles left and a minute left to play. Boyd premature ejaculating a field goal was considerably dumber than Mullen opting not to kick it. Could have set it up so that we were taking field goal at a point in time where Manly wouldn't have had time for their chance. We still had several plays left.

There there.

In that type of situation there is no point waiting until fifth tackle. The Knights were in perfect range for a field goal, there was no point lolly-gagging around and having Mullen on the fringe of the ruck, he should have been in the field goal pocket utilising his world class kicking skills.

It just wasn't smart football.

 

[perverse]

It's a fair point. We'll see what Hodkinson and Reynolds can dish up, anyway.

 

[Apey]

There there.

In that type of situation there is no point waiting until fifth tackle. The Knights were in perfect range for a field goal, there was no point lolly-gagging around and having Mullen on the fringe of the ruck, he should have been in the field goal pocket utilising his world class kicking skills.

It just wasn't smart football.

Just watched it again.

It was 4th tackle of a 7 tackle set with a 4v3 (Boyd, Rochow, Gagai, Uate) on the right side and over a minute left to play.

I agree, Boyd going for a field goal wasn't smart football at all.

 

[perverse]

According to Mullen at the press conference the Boyd field goal is a set play they've got because Mullo gets rushed as the only kicker when he goes for a field goal.

 

[Big Pete]

The thing is... particularly at this time of the year, I reckon Origin creeps into the back of his mind at moments like those. As a Knights fan I'd like to see him get a shot at redemption and get the monkey off his back. If he fails and gets dropped, then so be it... at least he'll know and can get on with things... but it's always there with him.

Obviously that's a little greedy of me speakign purely from the benefit I think it would give to his game at the Knights, but for 79 minutes he did everything he could in that match to get an Origin recall. I feel for him, and I certainly never want him to leave the Knights... he's the furthest thing from our problems at the moment... but I'd like to see him get a crack to get it over and done with.

I hear you and understand giving him a shot under the pretense that 33 year old Barrett got a shot, so why not Mullo but it's just his mental state that has always put me off.

He's a talent but he just lacks that attention to detail.

 

[Apey]

According to Mullen at the press conference the Boyd field goal is a set play they've got because Mullo gets rushed as the only kicker when he goes for a field goal.

:crazy:

Still Mullen's fault though right?

I find that bizarre I would have thought Roberts would be better at it than Boyd. Still, if you watch the play again, there was definitely something on on the right side. The Boyd drop goal makes no sense to me as a planned or unplanned move.

 

[Swarzey]

It's always Mullen's fault. According to the majority of people, he needs to play like Thurston, DCE etc. Otherwise, it's all his fault.

 

[Big Pete]

Just watched it again.

It was 4th tackle of a 7 tackle set with a 4v3 (Boyd, Rochow, Gagai, Uate) on the right side and over a minute left to play.

I agree, Boyd going for a field goal wasn't smart football at all.

How can that be? Mullen went back inside to Boyd, not further down the right.

Boyd shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place. Mullen should have been in the pocket.

It's always Mullen's fault. According to the majority of people, he needs to play like Thurston, DCE etc. Otherwise, it's all his fault.

He is the senior playmaker of the side, of course he's going to cop the brunt of the criticism.

If it helps, the rest of your 'spine' was shoddy tonight as well.

 

[Daddycool]

Just relieved to get the win. The Knights were gallant (excuse the pun) but Manly were very poor. Both teams had players out and with the scores tied up with only minutes left, it came down to the playmakers.

I just watched it again and Mullen had a clear shot, in front, nobody coming at him. He passed it off to someone else. DCE on the other hand, was in no position but on the last tackle, called for the ball and took a shot. That was the difference.

 

[Rod]

How can that be? Mullen went back inside to Boyd

No he didn't.

 

[perverse]

It won't matter, Rod. I see where they are coming from given what happened afterwards. They've made their mind up on what happened and why. Most people will see it that way, too.

It's all very typical of our season. Just roll with the punches... there's only 16 more weeks to go.

 

[Rod]

Origin-wise it's all moot anyway. Mullen could have kicked a FG better than DCE's and he still wouldn't have got picked. Not one of the chosen ones unfortunately.

 

[Jason Maher]

The travesty with Mullen is that clearly inferior players have repeatedly gained selection over him. All because he couldn't win NSW a series decider as a 19 year old debutant. It's utter bullshit

Edit: sorry, was game 1, not game 3. I actually ran into his family in the Queen Street Mall on the day of the game. Saw a bunch of people wearing Blues jeseys and gave them a "Go the Blues" as I walked past. Ended up having a short convo with them, turned out they were Mullen's family.

 

[Apey]

How can that be? Mullen went back inside to Boyd, not further down the right.

Boyd shouldn't have been put in that position in the first place. Mullen should have been in the pocket.

Seriously, you're arguing about a play that you clearly did not pay much attention to whatsoever. This did not happen, Mullen passed it to Boyd on his right, and with Boyd there was a potential 4v3 on the outside.

According to the press conference, it was a set move. Not sure if I buy it because Boyd hasn't kicked a field goal in his life afaik. Boyd wasn't put in that position by anyone but himself.

If it helps, the rest of your 'spine' was shoddy tonight as well.

Roberts was pretty bad, Gidley was Gidley (the latter use of Gidley is replacing the word shit from here on in) and Boyd was fine, despite the bizarre (planned or unplanned) field goal attempt.

 

[eagles4eva]

Please let that be wolfmans last game in the top grade, woeful in attack and defence

 

[Big Pete]

Seriously, you're arguing about a play that you clearly did not pay much attention to whatsoever. This did not happen, Mullen passed it to Boyd on his right, and with Boyd there was a potential 4v3 on the outside.

According to the press conference, it was a set move. Not sure if I buy it because Boyd hasn't kicked a field goal in his life afaik. Boyd wasn't put in that position by anyone but himself.



Roberts was pretty bad, Gidley was Gidley (the latter use of Gidley is replacing the word shit from here on in) and Boyd was fine, despite the bizarre (planned or unplanned) field goal attempt.

So let me get this straight, the coach and the player in question both admit it was a set play yet that still isn't good enough for you? Give me a break. :lol:

I can admit that my memory was hazy and on second viewing Mullen did in fact pass it right but it was the fifth tackle of the set, there was only one play to go afterwards, there was never going to be a better opportunity to kick the field goal and Mullen literally passed on it.

However, you could have just as easily pointed to an example moments earlier when DCE took the 'safe' option and opted to grubber ahead, establishing that there really wasn't that much of a difference between the two.

Bit like Mullo I guess, missed your opportunity when you should have taken it.

Now to do something better with my time. :lol: Commiserations mate.

 

[Apey]

So let me get this straight, the coach and the player in question both admit it was a set play yet that still isn't good enough for you? Give me a break. :lol:

I can admit that my memory was hazy and on second viewing Mullen did in fact pass it right but it was the fifth tackle of the set, there was only one play to go afterwards, there was never going to be a better opportunity to kick the field goal and Mullen literally passed on it.

However, you could have just as easily pointed to an example moments earlier when DCE took the 'safe' option and opted to grubber ahead, establishing that there really wasn't that much of a difference between the two.

Bit like Mullo I guess, missed your opportunity when you should have taken it.

Now to do something better with my time. :lol: Commiserations mate.

Based on the laughing emoticons I can only surmise that you were embarrassed you were arguing about a play you either didn't watch to begin with or couldn't even remember correctly.

I definitely find it hard to believe someone who hasn't kicked a single field goal in their entire career was the first choice over both Mullen and Roberts. Hell even Gidley has kicked them before as we both know.

Yes sorry I was reading off the screen, it was the 4th tackle by the count but it was a zero tackle set so it was the 5th tackle in that regard. Not sure how you can have a dig at Mullen for passing on it with a straight face while having a go at me for not believing it was a set move in the same post. Clearly it's not good enough for you either.

And yes the real difference between all three situations was the time left on the clock. DCE had literally no other option to take the field goal with 10 seconds to go, his hand was 100% forced. When he did have more time like Mullen, he too opted not to take the field goal. Thanks for laying my points out for me, I guess.

 

[Big Pete]

Based on the laughing emoticons I can only surmise that you were embarrassed you were arguing about a play you either didn't watch to begin with or couldn't even remember correctly.

No just laughing at the pettiness of this argument really.

Yes sorry I was reading off the screen, it was the 4th tackle by the count but it was a zero tackle set so it was the 5th tackle in that regard. Not sure how you can have a dig at Mullen for passing on it with a straight face while having a go at me for not believing it was a set move in the same post. Clearly it's not good enough for you either.

Or I believe a half should play what's infront of them and not stick to the script. The pass to Boyd appeared rehearsed but it should never have taken place, I believe Mullen should have taken the shot and I reckon hindsight being 20/20 he'd be thinking the same thing too.

It was a tough loss but there were some positive signs for the Knights and the time off should assist them heading into NZ.

 

[Apey]

No just laughing at the pettiness of this argument really.

I usually stick to the Knights forum for discussing our games, but I felt people were being rather silly trying to use this game as a slight against Mullen, especially since DCE was just awful for most of the game. I honestly don't think any of the other NSW 5/8 contenders come under the same level of scrutiny as he does.