14th IS unacceptale

[BLM01]

Shhhhh
L plate may hear you & add this to his book of excuses

To late LOL..already did. Press conference talked about it and he also said look at the Cowboys how they performed having a 6 day and having to travel. Mary is quicker than all of us.

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

Good post!

The main reason I would like an annual vote for St George delegate on the Board is to keep the fans engaged and these Board members accountable. Continuity of Governance is very easily provide through WIN Corp Board Members given that WIN Corp always occupies the chair position on the Board.

It seems to me that the new CEO has joined the old boys club so a change in Board members would be the only way of addressing the perceived nepotism and corruption currently within SGI. After the clean out, we need a leader to instil the value of Excellence rather than mediocracy.

I think what's worse is the process that the new Board went through to appoint Johnstone.
It all looks so pre determined and the criteria non existent.
I never could understand why they keep ignoring fan sentiment and then recently it occurred to me that in fact, they are banking on attracting new fans to the club so they don't have to deal with the constant backlash from fans that are more in tune with the club history.
They hope that one day, newbies will outnumber the traditional fan base and therefore take a lot of the pressure off.
Then they can continue down this path of mediocrity to their hearts content.
I still strongly believe that the JV has never been good for this club.
The initial financial advantage has long evaporated and now the Illawarra faction is running the show.
Tail wagging the dog so to speak.
"The Brand" has been seriously compromised and the administration of the club has turned out to be an old boys' hobby and pastime.
Personally, I cannot see how the voting rights will ever be given to the fan base under the current constitution.
The Board members are like barnacles.
Pretty depressing.

 

[Dragonsteve2]

Three or four years back Recruitment was taken from Mary so he could concentrate on coaching because unlike genuine coaches he couldn't handle both. Can I now suggest that team selection be taken from Mary because he can't handle this vital process and coach successfully? Getting the Dragons' best 17 players on the field in their best positions should lead to immediate improvement.

However should the team still not succeed there are other parts of the job that could be stripped from Mary. How about the Game Plan? Organising training? Perhaps he could be just left with addressing the players at half time or better still after the game. Alternately his sole duty could be to attend the Press Conference. It would leave too big a hole in my weekly entertainment if Mary was removed from his regular comic/BS gig.

 

[Dragon for life]

How many times has McIdiot sprout that he has the team he has always wanted.
A decent coach would have our team firing.
Millward’s signing of Norman has to be the worst signing for many a long year, to accomodate Norman we move Widdop to fullback which takes him out of his favourite and banishes Dufty to the bench.
Millward and McIdiot need to go and a broom put through the coaching staff and recruitment,
I do have been a supporter since the sixties and our club should be a finals contender each year.
If and I say if Broncos win then McGregor needs to be punted right away and replaced.

Paying Hunt 1.2 mil for 5 or 6 years is close to the worst purchase in Nrl history

 

[possm]

I think what's worse is the process that the new Board went through to appoint Johnstone.
It all looks so pre determined and the criteria non existent.
I never could understand why they keep ignoring fan sentiment and then recently it occurred to me that in fact, they are banking on attracting new fans to the club so they don't have to deal with the constant backlash from fans that are more in tune with the club history.
They hope that one day, newbies will outnumber the traditional fan base and therefore take a lot of the pressure off.
Then they can continue down this path of mediocrity to their hearts content.
I still strongly believe that the JV has never been good for this club.
The initial financial advantage has long evaporated and now the Illawarra faction is running the show.
Tail wagging the dog so to speak.
"The Brand" has been seriously compromised and the administration of the club has turned out to be an old boys' hobby and pastime.
Personally, I cannot see how the voting rights will ever be given to the fan base under the current constitution.
The Board members are like barnacles.
Pretty depressing.

I really don't think the officials of SGI aim for mediocrity or go out to lose games or to lose money or to not progress with the times. It is my opinion that their number one priority is to look after themselves and their mates first. Acting within the constraints that this may put on development or progress without reference to common sense or good governance.

It is clear to me that the only way to get rid of this attitude and positively turn things around on and off the field, is for there to be a thorough cleanout.

 

[muzby]

I really don't think the officials of SGI aim for mediocrity or go out to lose games or to lose money or to not progress with the times. It is my opinion that their number one priority is to look after themselves and their mates first. Acting within the constraints that this may put on development or progress without reference to common sense or good governance.

It is clear to me that the only way to get rid of this attitude and positively turn things around on and off the field, is for there to be a thorough cleanout.

Good to see you’ve finally realised it is the St George faction causing all the ruckus..

The sooner we can clear them out the healthier our club will be..

 

[slippery5]

We are currently sitting on 14 th in the table. I cannot remember when we in such a position and im 60 years old and following saints since the early 1960s.

To think we have at least 5 rep players in our squad and yet we are in this position makes me think i should send an email to saints to vent my frustration. Do they know about the position we are in. Do they care? However im not wasting 3 minutes of my time writing an e mail that is not going to be responded.

If mc idiot cares about saints like some posters think he does, then he should leave NOW for the benefit of the club. He already hs players that dont want to be there and have at least 5 players that cant go anywhere cause no one other team really wants them.

What will happen when the broncs seek retribution from last year? Will we be happy seeing our side being in the cellar dwellers section of he comp?

It makes me think I should paint SHAME on the doors of the club.

It is if we want to get rid of the coach.

 

[Warabrook saint]

To late LOL..already did. Press conference talked about it and he also said look at the Cowboys how they performed having a 6 day and having to travel. Mary is quicker than all of us.

Number one cover his arse under the bus thrower

 

[st penguin]

Paying Hunt 1.2 mil for 5 or 6 years is close to the worst purchase in Nrl history

Ahem...

 

[Brutalitops]

Paying Hunt 1.2 mil for 5 or 6 years is close to the worst purchase in Nrl history

Bad post on a few levels

First of all considering our performances since signing him have been overall much improved.

Second of all that figure is bullshit I think we all know that

Third of all Dragons were simply always going to have to pay a large sum for someone with the criteria we were after. Should we have thrown the house at Cronk for 2 years and been faced with losing two halves in two years? I'm glad we settled our 7 long term

Think you're also forgetting Hunt being the best 7 in the NRL for much of last season. Forced his into the QLD 7 jumper ahead of Morgan who the year prior charged his team to the GF

Ben Hunt is a great player. Cap is only going up and we don't have to worry about a halfback for 5 years

 

[Slackboy72]

Do we need to start an 11th is not good enough thread?

 

[possm]

Bad post on a few levels

First of all considering our performances since signing him have been overall much improved.

Second of all that figure is bullshit I think we all know that

Third of all Dragons were simply always going to have to pay a large sum for someone with the criteria we were after. Should we have thrown the house at Cronk for 2 years and been faced with losing two halves in two years? I'm glad we settled our 7 long term

Think you're also forgetting Hunt being the best 7 in the NRL for much of last season. Forced his into the QLD 7 jumper ahead of Morgan who the year prior charged his team to the GF

Ben Hunt is a great player. Cap is only going up and we don't have to worry about a halfback for 5 years

With talented and professional recruitment staff at a Club, there is nothing wrong in providing the right player a long term contract at the right money however, it is a risky business to do this and so recruitment must be very sure of it being a low risk decision.

For every overs recruitment done, there is a resulting opportunity missed being the retention of a very promising junior or the inability to meet the market price of a much needed first grade replacement.

It is very easy to just throw the asking price at a perceived star and not so easy to land that player on market price plus the benefit our Club can offer - like good development through a professional coaching staff.

 

[Dragon for life]

Bad post on a few levels

First of all considering our performances since signing him have been overall much improved.

Second of all that figure is bullshit I think we all know that

Third of all Dragons were simply always going to have to pay a large sum for someone with the criteria we were after. Should we have thrown the house at Cronk for 2 years and been faced with losing two halves in two years? I'm glad we settled our 7 long term

Think you're also forgetting Hunt being the best 7 in the NRL for much of last season. Forced his into the QLD 7 jumper ahead of Morgan who the year prior charged his team to the GF

Ben Hunt is a great player. Cap is only going up and we don't have to worry about a halfback for 5 years

Sorry I have to disagree a little. I think he has the potential to be a gun player but like Soward is a confidence player. No confidence and goes back into his shell.
Plays good when our forwards are dominating (most halves would) but if this doesn’t happen then the cracks appear. Poor kicking and decision making, when the team needs a spark to keep their heads up. Inspirational?? Not really.
We needed a half that controls the game, like Cronk did in the Gf last year. I believe neither of our halves have this quality. Superstars when we have teams on the back foot through our forwards but when we need to get into the trenches and try to control field position I think they both struggle. I rarely see them play off the cuff and this may be part coaching but they need to take control when they see an opportunity (opposition on the back foot) and break the structure if the opportunity arises.

I don’t know what he is getting paid I have only heard the 1.2mil comments. I just feel that this price should be reserved for a Cronk, Thurston, Andrew Johns type player.

Just my opinion.

 

[Como Connection]

Sorry I have to disagree a little. I think he has the potential to be a gun player but like Soward is a confidence player. No confidence and goes back into his shell.
Plays good when our forwards are dominating (most halves would) but if this doesn’t happen then the cracks appear. Poor kicking and decision making, when the team needs a spark to keep their heads up. Inspirational?? Not really.
We needed a half that controls the game, like Cronk did in the Gf last year. I believe neither of our halves have this quality. Superstars when we have teams on the back foot through our forwards but when we need to get into the trenches and try to control field position I think they both struggle. I rarely see them play off the cuff and this may be part coaching but they need to take control when they see an opportunity (opposition on the back foot) and break the structure if the opportunity arises.

I don’t know what he is getting paid I have only heard the 1.2mil comments. I just feel that this price should be reserved for a Cronk, Thurston, Andrew Johns type player.

Just my opinion.

$950k's is the price that I was told.
CC

 

[hewi]

What ever it is we needed him or someone like him. The fact is that without him we Wouldn’t have been 7th last season.

 

[st.phil]

Hunt is a little champion, best signing Dragons have made in many a year

 

[possm]

Hunt is a little champion, best signing Dragons have made in many a year

Hunt is a confidence player and so when he is confident, he plays very well. He needs a good coach and a captain like Graham to remind him to keep his head up no matter what.

 

[muzby]

Hunt is a confidence player and so when he is confident, he plays very well.

And grass is green..

 

[Slackboy72]

Do we need to start an 11th is not good enough thread?

Make that 10th in unacceptable

 

[Saints Forever]

Make that 10th in unacceptable

Make that 5th is unacceptable!