'15 | R2 | Sat | NQL 14-16 NEW | 1300SMILES

[Noname36]

I'm definitely happy to start of 2-0, I just feel like we have no hope whatsoever of any impact on the competition if we can't improve 10-fold on that. I don't know where the discipline is going to come from with a captain that couldn't keep a cool head if he was dumped naked on a glacier.

I really don't think we can move forward as a team with Gidley at captain, or possibly even on the field at all. I feel like a good captain can calm his team, Gidley does the polar opposite. A good captain makes a big play when it's appropriate in a match... even if Gidley could execute a big play, which he can't, he'd almost certainly choose the wrong time to try it.

That's the thing though, Gidley was always going to be a massive issue for us the moment he came back. I don't know why anyone would be suddenly losing their shit about it now. We know what he's like. Pretty much most of our issues with ill-discipline go away last night if he and Houston (who gave away 4 f**king penalities - four!) aren't there.

We screwed ourselves over with that and very poor ball handling but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt with the latter given the fact that the Cowboys dropped a lot of pill as well so the humidity wouldn't have made it easy. The very few times we actually held onto it and went up to the Cowboys end we had no issues scoring which tells me there's no real issues with our attack if we stop shooting ourselves in the foot and turning the ball over before we can build any momentum.

Luckily the judiciary should take the Houston issue off our hands for us but Stone has to make a tough call re Gidley. He's poison wherever he plays.

 

[Noname36]

If anyone deserved a punch in the head it was Houston and Scott last night.

That is the major failing of the one punch rule, in that fake tough guys can thug away with any fear of repercussion

Yeah, that tackle wasn't a good look at all and I actually hope Stone and the judiciary lay into them. Scott and Thurston clearly get under one another's skin and I think now and again Scott takes his role to mark JT and keep him out of the game a bit too far.

Saying that though the way Green and Thurston carried on in the presser was ridiculous. If they want to try and use that as an excuse for losing that's fine but they were both penalised and placed on report so I'm not sure what else they expected the ref to do.

 

[Rod]

What eactly was so bad about Scott's part in the tackle? What is he supposed to do once Houston has lifted JT's legs and tipped him up?

For me Houston was the one to blame for that tackle going wrong, Scott just had his body wrapped up for a normal tackle.

 

[Jobdog]

Nice to see the Knights have finally got a bit of mongrel in them. They've been the good guys for too long.

 

[Canard]

Yeah, that tackle wasn't a good look at all and I actually hope Stone and the judiciary lay into them. Scott and Thurston clearly get under one another's skin and I think now and again Scott takes his role to mark JT and keep him out of the game a bit too far.

Saying that though the way Green and Thurston carried on in the presser was ridiculous. If they want to try and use that as an excuse for losing that's fine but they were both penalised and placed on report so I'm not sure what else they expected the ref to do.

I don't believe the ref was his issue.

The point Green was making was that those players wouldn't be so bold or grubby if there was a threat of getting punched in the head. And if anything the new rules promote thug play.

 

[Noname36]

I don't believe the ref was his issue.

The point Green was making was that those players wouldn't be so bold or grubby if there was a threat of getting punched in the head. And if anything the new rules promote thug play.

Thug play? You've gotta be kidding me. Of course the opposition is going to try and rough JT up. Green should be more concerned that his forwards did nothing to try and protect him. Halfbacks get targeted every single week. That tackle by Houston and Scott wasn't a good look but everything else was standard.

Speaking of Thurston: funny how he can cry murder post-match but when Uate is genuinely hurt he's trying to act like a tough guy and pull him around. I bet Green didn't use that as one of his examples.

 

[Frederick]

Thug play? You've gotta be kidding me. Of course the opposition is going to try and rough JT up. Green should be more concerned that his forwards did nothing to try and protect him. Halfbacks get targeted every single week. That tackle by Houston and Scott wasn't a good look but everything else was standard.

Speaking of Thurston: funny how he can cry murder post-match but when Uate is genuinely hurt he's trying to act like a tough guy and pull him around. I bet Green didn't use that as one of his examples.

 

[Apey]

The point Green was making was that those players wouldn't be so bold or grubby if there was a threat of getting punched in the head.

I'm sure Scott would, he's an angry merkin.

 

[perverse]

Goodness me, imagine my amazement at the Cowboys having something to have a whinge about after a loss. The whole world is just out to get your blokes, isn't it? A real premiership contender would have rocked up to the press conference and said that that performance simply wasn't good enough. It's all well and good to have a whinge if you played well and have been dudded... but that certainly wasn't the case last night, was it?

 

[kbw]

Thug play? You've gotta be kidding me. Of course the opposition is going to try and rough JT up. Green should be more concerned that his forwards did nothing to try and protect him. Halfbacks get targeted every single week. That tackle by Houston and Scott wasn't a good look but everything else was standard.

Speaking of Thurston: funny how he can cry murder post-match but when Uate is genuinely hurt he's trying to act like a tough guy and pull him around. I bet Green didn't use that as one of his examples.

It was not just the work on Thurston, Houston was an out and out prick last night. He was dirty and a real lowlife.
Then there is the fingers to Thrustons eye, not sure who did that but pretty poor, but so was Thurston trying to lift Uate

 

[redvscotty]

Cowboys have been absolutely garbage the last 2 weeks.

 

[Canard]

Goodness me, imagine my amazement at the Cowboys having something to have a whinge about after a loss. The whole world is just out to get your blokes, isn't it? A real premiership contender would have rocked up to the press conference and said that that performance simply wasn't good enough. It's all well and good to have a whinge if you played well and have been dudded... but that certainly wasn't the case last night, was it?

It wasn't and it's not the Knights that I have issue with. It's the current rules that allow no square ups. That's good coaching and play from the Knights to exploit the rules.

Our piss weak forwards should have made sure Jarrod Mullen walked with a limp for the rest of the season and had a permanent eye injury.

 

[Canard]

Cowboys have been absolutely garbage the last 2 weeks.

No argument there. Atrocious.

 

[Rod]

Our piss weak forwards should have made sure Jarrod Mullen walked with a limp for the rest of the season and had a permanent eye injury.

That's a bit much, for all the talk about Thurston being targeted last night you can pretty much guarantee he'll be running out healthy in round 3.

I understand your sentiment though re: square-ups being impossible in retaliation for thuggish play, and it's been an issue ever since they brought that rule in. Last night probably isn't a great example of it because I don't think it was that bad and worthy of punches being thrown but I agree with your point.

I think Cowboys need to look at last night and think long and hard about what they're doing at the end of their sets, they were nothing short of abysmal on the 5th last night. Not that we were much better in that area mind you.

 

[Noname36]

Thing is, people like Scott aren't going to change the way they play even if the opposition is allowed to get up and punch them. Green has seriously underestimated Scott if he thinks he only hits hard knowing he can't get hit back. He and Smith have been playing that way for years and years...well before the no punching rule was cracked down on.

Green and the Cowboys forwards were the ones that failed Thurston. It wouldn't have been hard to work out that Scott and Smith were going to target him.

 

[perverse]

It wasn't and it's not the Knights that I have issue with. It's the current rules that allow no square ups. That's good coaching and play from the Knights to exploit the rules.

Our piss weak forwards should have made sure Jarrod Mullen walked with a limp for the rest of the season and had a permanent eye injury.

I didn't say you were whinging about the Knights - I said your team was whinging... and they do it incessantly as soon as something - anything - doesn't go their way. Your mob are right up there with Sticky Ricky as far as sour grapes go. If you watch the press conference and are intellectually honest with yourself, I don't see how you can interpret that blabbering as anything aside from a whinge. If your coach has a legitimate grievance with the rules, there are plenty of platforms in which to voice them. Shit, send an email to NRL HQ.

Your coach was upset that your poor little captain got a touch up and working over, and couldn't control himself well enough to not let it consume him. As if our boys would have played with an ounce of difference if your forwards could have thrown a punch. What a load of nonsense, you obviously haven't watched much of Beau Scott or Jeremy Smith play football.

 

[God-King Dean]

Tbf Canard, you had Ashton Sims.

Got awful tough when that rule came in.

 

[Canard]

Tbf Canard, you had Ashton Sims.

Got awful tough when that rule came in.

I agree.

 

[Canard]

Your coach was upset that your poor little captain got a touch up and working over, and couldn't control himself well enough to not let it consume him. As if our boys would have played with an ounce of difference if your forwards could have thrown a punch. What a load of nonsense, you obviously haven't watched much of Beau Scott or Jeremy Smith play football.

I'm sure your right, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to be able to retaliate.

Like I said I'm more annoyed that the Cowboys didn't try to hurt Mullen and Gidley. Pussies

 

[Noname36]

At the end of the day both sides have a lot to work on. Cowboys will come good but they need some toughness in the forwards to go with their size and Knights need some brains and discipline (although I was very pleased with the effort and defence).