18th club, whose next?

[Canard]

Why are you loathed? It's a great idea, to be based in a great regional city, that is 4 hours away from the next NRL team, anyone north of Cairns get to see a handful of live home games, without having to travel even further to Townsville, and it bringing in PNG into the comp without draining the nearby Cowboys lower grade talent, if anything Cowboys should be looking at focusing on areas south of Townsville to Mackay all the way to rockhampton

Nothing says ignorant southerner like saying "anyone north of Cairns".

f**k me, this is one of the most sparsely populated areas in the world.

@Vee maybe he means lets set up a NRL team to cater for the thriving metropolis of Weipa? Or to cater for the large urban conclave of Cooktown?

It's a dumb idea proposed by dumb people without any thought, and you should feel dumb for supporting it.

 

[reanimate]

Partly lack of appetite from Manly to grow, part North Sydney clinging on to their district in the ongoing hope they'll get an NRL team again.

If the NRL stated unequivocally that the Bears will never come back (EVER), the district could well end up as part of Roosters or Manly's area.

Manly? Manly could have the whole of North Sydney but are too incompetent to grow out of their little secluded corner

There’s a reason why the Roosters have been investing their money on the Central Coast and didn’t do anything with the North Shore, despite being partnered with the Bears until recently- the Bears have made it clear they intend to hold onto the North Shore as part of whatever bid they’re currently putting forward. They don’t want Manly, the Roosters, Tigers or whoever else touching the area.

If any of those teams go spending up in the area, in spite of the Bears, and the Bears get back in the NRL as one of the next teams (and are allowed to keep the North Shore), all that money will have effectively been wasted.

 

[MugaB]

Nothing says ignorant southerner like saying "anyone north of Cairns".

f**k me, this is one of the most sparsely populated areas in the world.

@Vee maybe he means lets set up a NRL team to cater for the thriving metropolis of Weipa? Or to cater for the large urban conclave of Cooktown?

It's a dumb idea proposed by dumb people without any thought, and you should feel dumb for supporting it.

I only metioned north of cairns because you would need to travel further to get to Townsville..
The small towns surrounding Cairns itself from Port Douglas to Innisfail, would far benifit from an NRL team playing a few home games in Cairns, than travelling down 3 + hours to Townsville..
Didn't billy slater come from up there? Didn't see him play for the cowboys tho, maybe the cowboys don't see a need to source players from that far north, or too far south as is evident with the dropping of the pride and cutters from their affiliations this year
Population of Cairns is 160k now, Townsville is now185k, when they got their license in '95, the population in Townsville was 113k, not sure its matters nowadays, but if you're looking at numbers or population, Townsville was worse off than Cairns is now and still managed to get one

 

[Perth Red]

Didn't billy slater come from up there? Didn't see him play for the cowboys tho, maybe the cowboys don't see a need to source players from that far north, or too far south as is evident with the dropping of the pride and cutters from their affiliations this year

Id suggest that is more to do with NRL's push to a full reserve grade than Cowboys not interested in talent from the area

 

[Perth Red]

The NRL has moved to shut down any talk of relocating a Sydney-based club after QRL boss Bruce Hatcher called for one of the nine teams to be shifted to Perth.
NRL CEO Andrew Abdo told News Corp the game was committed to having a national presence, that could include a team in Perth, but not via relocation.

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[MugaB]

Id suggest that is more to do with NRL's push to a full reserve grade than Cowboys not interested in talent from the area

Nope, redcliffe has multiple affiliates, broncos too, most of the sydney clubs still run with multiple clubs, cowboys just don't care, they'd rather throw money at the problem..
Panthers have bathurst 2 hours west they built an acedemy for... and they still source players from dubbo, orange and mudgee... which is 5 hours drive away

 

[Perth Red]

Nope, redcliffe has multiple affiliates, broncos too, most of the sydney clubs still run with multiple clubs, cowboys just don't care, they'd rather throw money at the problem..
Panthers have bathurst 2 hours west they built an acedemy for... and they still source players from dubbo, orange and mudgee... which is 5 hours drive away

The NRL has now started to pay clubs to have their own reserve grade side. Storm, Roosters, Cowboys, Raiders all moving to that in readiness for an NRL reserve grade comp.

 

[MugaB]

The NRL has moved to shut down any talk of relocating a Sydney-based club after QRL boss Bruce Hatcher called for one of the nine teams to be shifted to Perth.
NRL CEO Andrew Abdo told News Corp the game was committed to having a national presence, that could include a team in Perth, but not via relocation.

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Well done Abdo, that Bruce Hatcher is a hack...
He proclaimed that the talent pool in qld could not sustain another team,then shat on the qrl clubs that were bidding for the 17th licence, he is probably the reason why the dolphins cant use the name "redcliffe" but thats not a bad thing, they should have something as a locator, instead of "the"
Or just "dolphins"

Still the dact he jumped on the bandwagon throwing bombs at the sydney clubs after bennetts rant about selfish sydney, shows how fkd the man is,
I do agree with bennett tho, the Sydney clubs are selfish, but its a by product from the SL war, not about sharing the overall duvided pie, they must know expansion to more areas grows the game and the pie overall... its this weeks talk about relocations or removal that hatcher started that makes them syd clubs selfish in their views

 

[flippikat]

There’s a reason why the Roosters have been investing their money on the Central Coast and didn’t do anything with the North Shore, despite being partnered with the Bears until recently- the Bears have made it clear they intend to hold onto the North Shore as part of whatever bid they’re currently putting forward. They don’t want Manly, the Roosters, Tigers or whoever else touching the area.

If any of those teams go spending up in the area, in spite of the Bears, and the Bears get back in the NRL as one of the next teams (and are allowed to keep the North Shore), all that money will have effectively been wasted.

That's just it.

The NRL needs step-up and send a clear message to Norths.

Whether that's "nope, not gonna happen" or "Yes, but we want to see the team based *here* (where *here* is some strategic location that's not in Sydney - and not to be moved back to Sydney)".

To be honest I'd prefer the former over the latter, but for clarity sake we need a firm call.

 

[MugaB]

The NRL has now started to pay clubs to have their own reserve grade side. Storm, Roosters, Cowboys, Raiders all moving to that in readiness for an NRL reserve grade comp.

Yes they have their own junior teams now, great, but what your suggesting is a myth, cowboys already have the blackhawks, the others just never had a grade below as they affiliated themselves with norths or sunshine coast or newtown (sharks still do)

 

[Perth Red]

Yes they have their own junior teams now, great, but what your suggesting is a myth, cowboys already have the blackhawks, the others just never had a grade below as they affiliated themselves with norths or sunshine coast or newtown (sharks still do)

Whats a myth is Cowboys have abandoned Cairns. WHat is happening is clubs are being paid by NRL to align their reserve grade with their own club in preparation for a new comp. Its no coincidence that NRL clubs who didn't have a reserve grade side in a state comp now do. 1st step to an eventual 17 club (18) NRL reserve grade comp

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[MugaB]

Whats a myth is Cowboys have abandoned Cairns. WHat is happening is clubs are being paid by NRL to align their reserve grade with their own club in preparation for a new comp. Its no coincidence that NRL clubs who didn't have a reserve grade side in a state comp now do. 1st step to an eventual 17 club (18) NRL reserve grade comp

Cairns to Cowboys: Developing FNQ’s next gen

The North Queensland Toyota Cowboys are continuing to foster elite pathways for the next generation of rugby league players in Far North Queensland, as the Greenhorns (Cowboys Academy) assembled in Cairns for their next stage of development under the guidance of the Cowboys and Northern Pride.

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Cowboys in Cairns!

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... yeah i get the whole, reserve grade teams, but they aren't doing for some huge "NRL reserve grade" comp... they are doing it to have a local team for that club to have thier 18-36 players play in, not ship them back over to sunshine coast when not needed (ala storm) besides its a smarter idea to have every club foster a reserve grade side of their own to pull from... not rely soley on these feeder clubs, its an issue for teams like Broncos, that have 4-5 feeder clubs, and they have terrible combinations in the halves, or other positions, coz each kid is getting pulled from different clubs, instead of being all from a broncos reserve grade team, where they could get a bit more cohesion, before entering 1st grade... the 20s toyota cup a few years back, was a great example of this, and now each club has that setup

 

[Perth Red]

Huh? 2006, and 2016... are you just googling old articles... yeah i get the whole, reserve grade teams, but they aren't doing for some huge "NRL reserve grade" comp... they are doing it to have a local team for that club to have thier 18-36 players play in, not ship them back over to sunshine coast when not needed (ala storm) besides its a smarter idea to have every club foster a reserve grade side of their own to pull from... not rely soley on these feeder clubs

on my feed it says those two links are from this year?

They only got rid of reserve grade because the clubs and league couldn't afford it, it will be back now they are both awash with cash. I think the NRL sees it as an answer to the "not enough talent" issue. and the calls to bring back a national U20's comp that seem to be getting louder.

It also weakens the state bodies which I dont think the NRl under Vlandys will mind at all.

The conversation has already begun.

Broncos football director bucks reserve grade bid

Ikin isn't a fan of PVL's reserve grade return.

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[MugaB]

on my feed it says those two links are from this year?

They only got rid of reserve grade because the clubs and league couldn't afford it, it will be back now they are both awash with cash. I think the NRL sees it as an answer to the "not enough talent" issue. and the calls to bring back a national U20's comp that seem to be getting louder.

It also weakens the state bodies which I dont think the NRl under Vlandys will mind at all.

The conversation has already begun.

Broncos football director bucks reserve grade bid

Ikin isn't a fan of PVL's reserve grade return.

www.zerotackle.com

Yeah i read the link date wrong, looked like it was backwards... regardless, holding a few pass the ball with a cowboy hour isn't looking after the place, seriously... it's just placating to them..
Like how dane talks about clubs going to rural areas to play (being cynical as he is) but really its just a payday.... eels in NT? I see you in the NT

 

[Canard]

I only metioned north of cairns because you would need to travel further to get to Townsville..
The small towns surrounding Cairns itself from Port Douglas to Innisfail, would far benifit from an NRL team playing a few home games in Cairns, than travelling down 3 + hours to Townsville..
Didn't billy slater come from up there? Didn't see him play for the cowboys tho, maybe the cowboys don't see a need to source players from that far north, or too far south as is evident with the dropping of the pride and cutters from their affiliations this year
Population of Cairns is 160k now, Townsville is now185k, when they got their license in '95, the population in Townsville was 113k, not sure its matters nowadays, but if you're looking at numbers or population, Townsville was worse off than Cairns is now and still managed to get one

That's even more insane.

To cater for the populations of Port and Innisfail, total combined population of about 10k, would be no999 on a list of priorities for Rugby League.

The current Cowboys team has genuine Cairns juniors in Nanai and Luki, and several more in the 30man squad. Cairns is Cowboys territory, and always will be.

This is a brainfart of an idea, that has had zero thought go into it, and logistically unfeasible.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Any money for PNG should be used to further professionalise their own local national comp. Get that to a better standard then think about the NRL.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Well done Abdo, that Bruce Hatcher is a hack...
He proclaimed that the talent pool in qld could not sustain another team,then shat on the qrl clubs that were bidding for the 17th licence, he is probably the reason why the dolphins cant use the name "redcliffe" but thats not a bad thing, they should have something as a locator, instead of "the"
Or just "dolphins"

Yeah i was just about to say the same thing.

Hatcher and the QRL supposedly blocked the Redcliffe name being used in the NRL to a licence issue that QRL own.

So know we have this farce where a team in the competiton is called the Dolphins but cant have there actual location in the name how ridiculous.

 

[MugaB]

That's even more insane.

To cater for the populations of Port and Innisfail, total combined population of about 10k, would be no999 on a list of priorities for Rugby League.

The current Cowboys team has genuine Cairns juniors in Nanai and Luki, and several more in the 30man squad. Cairns is Cowboys territory, and always will be.

This is a brainfart of an idea, that has had zero thought go into it, and logistically unfeasible.

Not really insane, again didn't billy slater come from there? He is basically the greatest fullback ever, maybe in 30 years will be an immortal,
You scoff and say its cowboys country, mate its 4 hours away... thats like saying dubbo is panthers country, or Wollongong is knights country...
Be realistic, you only view cairns that way coz there is no other alternative, if they go ahead with this Pasifika or PNG team based there, it wouldn't be "cowboys country" no more it would your derby

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah i read the link date wrong, looked like it was backwards... regardless, holding a few pass the ball with a cowboy hour isn't looking after the place, seriously... it's just placating to them..
Like how dane talks about clubs going to rural areas to play (being cynical as he is) but really its just a payday.... eels in NT? I see you in the NT

no worries, thought it was me lol Sometimes news articles come up from years ago with recent dates on, there's one on expansion that looks like today but has Gallop in it!

Why would Cowboys sever ties if not to prepare for a reserve grade comp? Same with Roosters and Norths. It wasn't costing them much.

 

[Perth Red]

QRL are all over the place. 2 years ago they didnt want Brisbane2, now they are demanding Brisbane3 lol