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18th club, whose next?

MugaB

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no worries, thought it was me lol Sometimes news articles come up from years ago with recent dates on, there's one on expansion that looks like today but has Gallop in it!

Why would Cowboys sever ties if not to prepare for a reserve grade comp? Same with Roosters and Norths. It wasn't costing them much.
Only those clubs have severed ties... there is still affiliations going with the storm and falcons, jets and sharks, dolphins and capras, kodi nikorima and Anthony Milford were playing in CQ this whole time, before last weeks loss
 

Canard

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Not really insane, again didn't billy slater come from there? You scoff and say its cowboys country, mate its 4 hours away... thats like saying dubbo is panthers country, or Wollongong is knights country...
Be realistic, you only view cairns that way coz there is no other alternative, if they go ahead with this Pasifika or PNG team based there, it wouldn't be "cowboys country" no more it would your derby

The Billy Slater thing is a total non-arguement. Scott Drinkwater is from Penrith, should we add another team there, because the Panthers missed out on him?

4hrs is nothing in North Queensland, we are used to travel. Just because lazy city dwellers don't like to venture more than 30mins from their heated indoor pool and spa, doesn't mean we dont.

It's a dumb idea, and whoever came up with it, should be publicly mocked for their stupidity.
 

Perth Red

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Only those clubs have severed ties... there is still affiliations going with the storm and falcons, jets and sharks, dolphins and capras, kodi nikorima and Anthony Milford were playing in CQ this whole time, before last weeks loss
Raiders cut ties with mounties as well.
It seems theres movement happening to an eventual reserve grade. Not a bad thing imo. TV can screen it if played prior to NRL game and time slots allow for little extra cost.
 

Perth Red

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The Billy Slater thing is a total non-arguement. Scott Drinkwater is from Penrith, should we add another team there, because the Panthers missed out on him?

4hrs is nothing in North Queensland, we are used to travel. Just because lazy city dwellers don't like to venture more than 30mins from their heated indoor pool and spa, doesn't mean we dont.

It's a dumb idea, and whoever came up with it, should be publicly mocked for their stupidity.
nah its perfectly sensible, base a foreign team in a tourist town of 150k people with no infrastructure in place for an NRL club and that's already part of another NRL's club region. What doesnt make sense?
 

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Only those clubs have severed ties... there is still affiliations going with the storm and falcons, jets and sharks, dolphins and capras, kodi nikorima and Anthony Milford were playing in CQ this whole time, before last weeks loss
Doesnt sound like Cowboys are abandoning those areas after all!

“An increased financial commitment to both the Cutters and Pride will provide both clubs with greater ability to develop and more importantly retain local products as well as attract talent as opposed to relying on the possibility of our NRL squad members dropping back, which becomes more unpredictable as the season wears on.
“On top of the introduction of women’s academies in both Mackay and Cairns, the Cowboys have committed to increased focus and resources for junior development in both regions, which will ultimately provide greater opportunities to feed into our NRL system.”

 

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Honestly the bears and perth are both each others best shot at getting into the comp.

Having the bears there helps crowds out massively when they play in sydney instead of the perth being another GC titans like draw.

Perth gives the bears a home.

I am not sure why perth is so against it, it also has an excellent leagues club which will help with funding. Realistically with a proper link norths could have juniors like the shire in 20 years... especially in the four northern norths junior clubs (penno / hills / asquith / berowra)
 

MugaB

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The Billy Slater thing is a total non-arguement. Scott Drinkwater is from Penrith, should we add another team there, because the Panthers missed out on him?

4hrs is nothing in North Queensland, we are used to travel. Just because lazy city dwellers don't like to venture more than 30mins from their heated indoor pool and spa, doesn't mean we dont.

It's a dumb idea, and whoever came up with it, should be publicly mocked for their stupidity.
Comparing a loser deadbeat like Scott drinkwater (from terrigal not penrith), to QLD coach Billy Slater probably the best human on planet earth, is blasphemous

I'm not the one advocating the bid, the Cairns mayor is, i just think it has merit, and can actually be a boon to both QLD pathways and strengthen the PNG pathways, plus give you guys a rival... and rivals are great thing for the overall game, the bronx might have been your rivals before but they ain't on your doorstep, they never were, they were just the closest team nearby, so thats not a derby, thats just dots on a map distance pondering... cairns will bring out the hate in your team moreso than any other team...

billy WINS.jpg
 

MugaB

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Doesnt sound like Cowboys are abandoning those areas after all!

“An increased financial commitment to both the Cutters and Pride will provide both clubs with greater ability to develop and more importantly retain local products as well as attract talent as opposed to relying on the possibility of our NRL squad members dropping back, which becomes more unpredictable as the season wears on.
“On top of the introduction of women’s academies in both Mackay and Cairns, the Cowboys have committed to increased focus and resources for junior development in both regions, which will ultimately provide greater opportunities to feed into our NRL system.”

Just throwing money at them... yep they are the real deal y'all
 

Perth Red

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Honestly the bears and perth are both each others best shot at getting into the comp.

Having the bears there helps crowds out massively when they play in sydney instead of the perth being another GC titans like draw.

Perth gives the bears a home.

I am not sure why perth is so against it, it also has an excellent leagues club which will help with funding. Realistically with a proper link norths could have juniors like the shire in 20 years... especially in the four northern norths junior clubs (penno / hills / asquith / berowra)
because NS playing in Perth is not want Perth wants. A perth club owning the license and adopting the Bears brand is not what NS want. Here in lies the problem!
 

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Isaac McCarthy
March 27, 2023 - 7:00AM
The Cairns Post

Cairns mayor spruiks economic benefits of hosting Pacifika team as 18th entry into NRL comp​

Some eyes in Cairns are lighting up with dollar signs at the thought of the Far North hosting the NRL’s 18th team, but one politician is still calling it a flight of fancy.

The possibility of the Cairns’ sporting future as part of an expanded NRL competition is under active consideration by Cairns Regional Council, as the organisation prepares to meet on Wednesday to discuss upgrades to Barlow Park.

The NRL recently signalled its ambitions to grow the competition to 20 teams and long-time proponents for the big game in FNQ, such as Cairns mayor Bob Manning, were tickled by the thought of Cairns at least hosting team 18.

Cr Manning has swung his city behind the possibility but others are still calling it a flight of fancy without key infrastructure.

The mayor confirmed councillors held the first discussion about necessary infrastructure in response to news earlier this month of the NRL’s plans to expand into a 20-team competition over the next decade.

“We talked about that,” Cr Manning said. “A team couldn’t be based here without a stadium. You don’t get an NRL team using Barlow or the Showgrounds. We’re thinking about what we need to do to measure this up … but we need a lot more information and at some point we’re going to require a formal offer.”

The outgoing mayor would no doubt like to play a role in facilitating such an outcome before his retirement in 2024, but he said his vision that involves a Papua New Guinea or Pacific Islands team home-basing in Cairns would first need to be driven by those nations.

“There are a lot of interest involved here – local, state and federal government as well as international,” Cr Manning said. “The spirit of rugby league in Cairns is strong. Council would be happy to be a part of this process but we need to be humble because this is about getting the Pacific Islands and PNG into the NRL. They need to make the decision and council will facilitate to make this less daunting for them.”

Cr Manning said the benefits of any NRL team home-basing in Cairns would bring enormous economic and social development to the region.

“We’re talking about the highest level of league being played here. This could bring youth development, the introduction of PNG into the NBL, the establishment of a women’s league team in PNG … it certainly would involve the case for developing more infrastructure,” he said. “It would take us into other markets. The wealth that would spread between Cairns and Pacific Island nations, the amount of business that will go through this city into the Pacific, would be great for us.”

Cr Manning was confident a team based in Cairns would bring crowds in excess of 10,000 people for key games.

“I have no doubt a Pasifika team would be competitive, therefore they will draw crowds eventually,” he said.

Leichhardt MP Warren Entsch, however, said the idea was unrealistic without a multipurpose stadium to host a team, and blamed the council for leaving the Far North in a disadvantageous position during opportune times. With a business case, he said it was possible the federal government would allocate its share of funding for a multipurpose facility in the near future.

“Of course we could make this happen, but we’ve got to have somewhere for them to play … we could get this done pretty quickly, but we need a decision by the council as to where to put (a stadium),” Mr Entsch said. “We’re the largest regional city in Queensland but we don’t have a stadium. That’s because we haven’t put a case in for it. There’s a lot of money available for the Olympics … the timing couldn’t be better.”

Division 3 councillor Cathy Zeiger confirmed the NRL’s announcement had energised discussion at the council.
“We are having regular discussions on a master plan for a sports precinct,” Cr Zeiger said.

“There’s definitely been a spike in discussion on what we’d build and where we’d get the money from and how it would be operated going forward, but we can’t do anything until we hear a bit more.”

I was loath to post this, It's little more than preliminary pie-in-the-sky and I can see it being seized upon by the dots-on-a-map brigade as a done deal but, in the interests of transparency...

I can’t see negotiations going too well if this ever got to the discussion stage between PNG and Cairns. To justify a stadium upgrade even being extremely optimistic Cairns would probably need to be looking at a minimum of 4 games a year. PNG would very likely say no to that and around in circles it goes.
 

Wb1234

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Nothing says ignorant southerner like saying "anyone north of Cairns".

f**k me, this is one of the most sparsely populated areas in the world.

@Vee maybe he means lets set up a NRL team to cater for the thriving metropolis of Weipa? Or to cater for the large urban conclave of Cooktown?

It's a dumb idea proposed by dumb people without any thought, and you should feel dumb for supporting it.
Salty cowboys fans

club > the game of rugby league
 

Wb1234

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The Billy Slater thing is a total non-arguement. Scott Drinkwater is from Penrith, should we add another team there, because the Panthers missed out on him?

4hrs is nothing in North Queensland, we are used to travel. Just because lazy city dwellers don't like to venture more than 30mins from their heated indoor pool and spa, doesn't mean we dont.

It's a dumb idea, and whoever came up with it, should be publicly mocked for their stupidity.
The mayor of cairns did

you know the guy who was elected by his people
 

docbrown

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Let's say the Perth Bears get a run.. what's going to stop them moving back to North Sydney?
After 10 years the crowds in Perth drop off ..
The NRL can write anything into their franchise agreement e.g. no relocations or control of the club reverts to the NRL. The NRL has all the power to set the terms of their reentry.

Anyone claiming otherwise is just fearmongering.
 

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