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18th club, whose next?

MugaB

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Perth is going to transform the nrl from an east coast league to a truly truly National competition

they need to be prioritised and the arlc spending lots of money on juniors in wa

also Perth red

toulose and London are important cities but they must earn their spot on the field by beating established clubs like Featherstone.

if you are looking globally which is more important for the game

Perth London or toulose
Neither really, earn your spot or go home
 
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Blinded by his own BS, about every metro needs an NRL Club, remember equality and all that, yet most people say Adelaide is useless for RL, Perth seems to be different or some outliner somehow, i see it in the same frame really, but then still begs and blames for the ARLC to give them handouts

Not only does he want the NRL to give Perth a licence when there are better candidates from the heartland. He also wants the heartland to prop it up. At one stage I saw him saying PNGRFL would provide it with players. He has an entitlement complex.
 

Wb1234

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Not only does he want the NRL to give Perth a licence when there are better candidates from the heartland. He also wants the heartland to prop it up. At one stage I saw him saying PNGRFL would provide it with players. He has an entitlement complex.
Imagine being a pommie rugby league fan and coming to Australia and not picking a state where rugby league is king

if I spend too long in Melbourne and see fumbler fans playing with their Sherrins it makes me sick and feel like I’m on a different planet
 

mongoose

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Not only does he want the NRL to give Perth a licence when there are better candidates from the heartland. He also wants the heartland to prop it up. At one stage I saw him saying PNGRFL would provide it with players. He has an entitlement complex.
"Better candidates" lol The Brisbane team that no one in Brisbane is asking for... a team in a 3rd world country with no money.... NZ 2 is the only other worthy candidate, and it doesn't have another population centre as big as Perth, nor sponsorship opportunities.
 
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Imagine being a pommie rugby league fan and coming to Australia and not picking a state where rugby league is king

if I spend too long in Melbourne and see fumbler fans playing with their Sherrins it makes me sick and feel like I’m on a different planet

If he's so desperate to see a game each week then he should move to Brisbane or Sydney.
 

Canard

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Not only does he want the NRL to give Perth a licence when there are better candidates from the heartland. He also wants the heartland to prop it up. At one stage I saw him saying PNGRFL would provide it with players. He has an entitlement complex.
If he's so desperate to see a game each week then he should move to Brisbane or Sydney.
That's a bit rich coming from the guy who has 3 NRL teams in his region, 'supports' one in another region but is demanding another one.

Why don't you move to a suburb closer to Lang Park, Robina or Redcliffe?
 
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"Better candidates" lol The Brisbane team that no one in Brisbane is asking for...

People on here said no one would support Redcliffe. Too isolated. Hated by other BRL fans. Too long away from public consciousness after the BRL's death in 1988.

Despite all of the doom and gloom by people who share your mindset, Redcliffe have become the second biggest club in the NRL. It only took them one season.

There's plenty of RL fans from southern Brisbane who will support the Brisbane Tigers. You can bet your arse that if the Brisbane Tigers and West Coast Pirates get two of the next three licences then the Tigers will have a much larger active fanbase. If you think otherwise then you're delusional.

Do you still think there's a conspiracy between the ARL and ARU to not put a team in Perth so the Force can have "space"?

a team in a 3rd world country with no money....

It has supporters and players. The Pirates do not.

NZ 2 is the only other worthy candidate, and it doesn't have another population centre as big as Perth, nor sponsorship opportunities.

Perth couldn't support the Reds. Murdoch had to bail them out in 1996 with a sponsorship package because the local business community didn't want to invest in them.

If you think NZ2 is economically unviable due to Wellington being around the size of Canberra, then why aren't you advocating for the Raiders to f**k off to Perth?
 
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Canard

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People on here said no one would support Redcliffe. Too isolated. Hated by other BRL fans. Too long away from public consciousness after the BRL's death in 1988.

Despite all of the doom and gloom by people who share your mindset, Redcliffe have become the second biggest club in the NRL. It only took them one season.

There's plenty of RL fans from southern Brisbane who will support the Brisbane Tigers. You can bet your arse that if the Brisbane Tigers and West Coast Pirates get two of the next three licences then the Tigers will have a much larger active fanbase. If you think otherwise then you're delusional.

Do you still think there's a conspiracy between the ARL and ARU to not put a team in Perth so the Force can have "space"?



It has supporters and players. The Pirates do not.



Perth couldn't support the Reds. Murdoch had to bail them out in 1996 with a sponsorship package because the local business community didn't want to invest in them.
NQ had to be bailed out by Murdoch to, does that mean it doesn't deserve a team?

The Knights and Warriors also had to have rescue packages, should they be removed?
 

Nutz

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People on here said no one would support Redcliffe. Too isolated. Hated by other BRL fans. Too long away from public consciousness after the BRL's death in 1988.

Despite all of the doom and gloom by people who share your mindset, Redcliffe have become the second biggest club in the NRL. It only took them one season.

There's plenty of RL fans from southern Brisbane who will support the Brisbane Tigers. You can bet your arse that if the Brisbane Tigers and West Coast Pirates get two of the next three licences then the Tigers will have a much larger active fanbase. If you think otherwise then you're delusional.

Do you still think there's a conspiracy between the ARL and ARU to not put a team in Perth so the Force can have "space"?



It has supporters and players. The Pirates do not.



Perth couldn't support the Reds. Murdoch had to bail them out in 1996 with a sponsorship package because the local business community didn't want to invest in them.
It would be a great excuse though to tell the missus I'm off to Perth to watch the Tigers.
If they lose, which is likely, I could drown my sorrows at the CBH with some pints of icy cold Redbacks then recover on the beach as the sun goes down over the Indian Ocean.
 

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Brisbane doesn’t need a third club now and highly unlikley the other clubs will support it, png is only being considered if feds throw silly money at the nrl, nz2 has no backers.
Reality is perth is by far the best option. Will it be chosen? Probably not, this is rugby league where missed opportunities and poor management decisions have encumbered the game for decades.
 
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It would be a great excuse though to tell the missus I'm off to Perth to watch the Tigers.
If they lose, which is likely, I could drown my sorrows at the CBH with some pints of icy cold Redbacks then recover on the beach as the sun goes down over the Indian Ocean.

The WA Gov should sign a deal with an NRL club to play a game in Perth each season. It'll generate money from tourism and give the city's small RL community a chance to see a game.
 

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It would be a great excuse though to tell the missus I'm off to Perth to watch the Tigers.
If they lose, which is likely, I could drown my sorrows at the CBH with some pints of icy cold Redbacks then recover on the beach as the sun goes down over the Indian Ocean.
Theres worse ways to spend a Sunday lol
 

MugaB

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Not only does he want the NRL to give Perth a licence when there are better candidates from the heartland. He also wants the heartland to prop it up. At one stage I saw him saying PNGRFL would provide it with players. He has an entitlement complex.
Correct it seems that way, the entitlement is expecting a licence to be gifted purely on the basis of the size of the population centre he happens to live in, but don't ask about what it offers in return for the clubs who have all scratched and clawed for existing in the comp for the bulk of a century, no just expect nothing in return...
Realistically if the WA bid came thru, it would need a massive injection into thier pathways programs, and a really good coaching staff and club staff to persist with cultivating those pathways, otherwise we are wasting our time talking about them, coz if all they offer is a new timeslot for a broadcaster, and no players to boost the player pool, then its a waste of a licence, we need areas where the juniors will fill our already established clubs when they need to go to market... thats just the reality, im not saying its right, all clubs should be creating enough extra players for the player pool, but they're not, and this is where we need to look at areas that can produce raw talent
 

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The WA Gov should sign a deal with an NRL club to play a game in Perth each season. It'll generate money from tourism and give the city's small RL community a chance to see a game.
Where have you been for the last decade?
Maybe you can convince the dolphins to play the odd game in Ipswich as well and then no need for any further brisbane teams?
 

Perth Red

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Correct it seems that way, the entitlement is expecting a licence to be gifted purely on the basis of the size of the population centre he happens to live in, but don't ask about what it offers in return for the clubs who have all scratched and clawed for existing in the comp for the bulk of a century, no just expect nothing in return...
Realistically if the WA bid came thru, it would need a massive injection into thier pathways programs, and a really good coaching staff and club staff to persist with cultivating those pathways, otherwise we are wasting our time talking about them, coz if all they offer is a new timeslot for a broadcaster, and no players to boost the player pool, then its a waste of a licence, we need areas where the juniors will fill our already established clubs when they need to go to market... thats just the reality, im not saying its right, all clubs should be creating enough extra players for the player pool, but their not, and this is where we need to look at areas that can produce raw talent
Going by your logic no sport would ever expand outside of its traditional areas. There’s more to value add for a competition than just player production.
 

MugaB

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Going by your logic no sport would ever expand outside of its traditional areas. There’s more to value add for a competition than just player production.
No not going off my logic, we can expand to NZ or PNG, CQ or Central coast, but they are all risky expansions all for different reasons... main thing is that they would give us enough players to expand further, perth wouldn't do that for another 5 -10 years, yes its a must to do eventually, but making sure there is an overflow of talent to spread around is the goal, then you can enter places like Perth and Adelaide and not worry where you'll get the players from initially..
And no there isn't any reason to add more teams other than grow a 9th game, or 10th game to sell, the product is already good, that poms form perth watch it enough
 

Nutz

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The WA Gov should sign a deal with an NRL club to play a game in Perth each season. It'll generate money from tourism and give the city's small RL community a chance to see a game.
You could apply that to every state or territory mate.
I choose Norfolk Island. Ha Ha.
(They actually had some good footy players years ago and it still has a leagues club there now. Great place for a holiday if you haven't been)
 
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Brisbane doesn’t need a third club now and highly unlikley the other clubs will support it, png is only being considered if feds throw silly money at the nrl, nz2 has no backers.
Reality is perth is by far the best option. Will it be chosen? Probably not, this is rugby league where missed opportunities and poor management decisions have encumbered the game for decades.

A Perth-based team is likely to be a disaster that the NRL cannot afford.

Its distance from the east coast and inability to produce its own players will make it dependent upon the QRL, NSWRL, NZRL and PNGRFL. The drain it'll place on the other 17 clubs will create a lot of hostility.

The bulk of the team will be made up of players who aren't good enough to get a spot with one of the other 17 clubs. A few has-beens will sign for overs.

Poor on field results will turn casual fans away. The business community will abandon the team when its active fanbase dwindles down to a low number.
 

Perth Red

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No not going off my logic, we can expand to NZ or PNG, CQ or Central coast, but they are all risky expansions all for different reasons... main thing is that they would give us enough players to expand further, perth wouldn't do that for another 5 -10 years, yes its a must to do eventually, but making sure there is an overflow of talent to spread around is the goal, then you can enter places like Perth and Adelaide and not worry where you'll get the players from initially
Tbf it’s highly unlikely dolphins will be delivering any real number of first team players for a number of years, it takes that to get systems improved and kids signed with the lure of a direct nrl pathway.
The whole thers not enough playes is rubbish anyway right now, there’s not enough opportunity is more the case. No k e can say how m ay j rs you need to furnish a team. I’ve asked numerous times.
How many players who play sg ball never graduate to nrl? How many decent players in nsw and qlnd cup not getting. First team opportunity?

I have no doubt a perth team wil have at least one, possibly more east coast or nz feeder clubs from day one And be investing significantly in the WA pathways and quality of jnr club coaching here.

one thing I do know for sure is if you never start a journey you will never get to the destonation.
 

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