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18th club, whose next?

Wb1234

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Thats fair, but you are also talking of 5 extra clubs, thats a helluva lot more TV money to come in.
If they had stand alone SOO games, Origin would definitely not be able to be on Free TV alone. Fox having 3 weekends a year with no game(s) would be a huge sticking point.
Fox can get to stream origins and the grand final
 

MugaB

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You don't think having a few more rounds in the competition would be beneficial? You're talking a 26 week season, not the season by round.
Your season has only 21 rounds.
You think TV is going to pay more for the NRL to have less rounds??????
Bizzarre.
Even your mate, PVL, wouldn't dream up that idea.
Simple answer PR cant calculate, nor can he conceptualise a 20 team comp, that doesn't involve a perth team, and or culling of most Sydney clubs.. or both... just not in his nature...
No one suggests less rounds and more money for them we aren't the NFL and don't have the population to demand that,
Some say the season is too long.. well those folk saying that are following teams that obviously aren't doing well..
A conference system or Pools would generate more exciting clashes or derbys, the longer it goes on, the more fans will get used to owning that derby, look at Parra V Manly, or Penrith V Tigers
if you pool teams together to play each other more often theyll be more spice more often and create more drama, and you can see it again like the souths v roosters clashes, it would sux if we would only get that once a season, the only fair system to generate more derbys and travel efforts, is the split of Sydney that bad boy bubby posted up, it also keeps more attention on Queensland teams guaranteed 2 games a seasons verse each other, no matter what and a higher probability of them entering finals via one side of the pool...
 

Perth Red

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We currently play nrl games during the rep rounds

lmao
Eh? Yeh I 8now, my suggestion, as others have, is we dont.
We have three rep alone weekends. we done have rep rounds anymore sadly, we only have origin games mid season now.
 

Perth Red

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Simple answer PR cant calculate, nor can he conceptualise a 20 team comp, that doesn't involve a perth team, and or culling of most Sydney clubs.. or both... just not in his nature...
No one suggests less rounds and more money for them we aren't the NFL and don't have the population to demand that,
Some say the season is too long.. well those folk saying that are following teams that obviously aren't doing well..
A conference system or Pools would generate more exciting clashes or derbys, the longer it goes on, the more fans will get used to owning that derby, look at Parra V Manly, or Penrith V Tigers
if you pool teams together to play each other more often theyll be more spice more often and create more drama, and you can see it again like the souths v roosters clashes, it would sux if we would only get that once a season, the only fair system to generate more derbys and travel efforts, is the split of Sydney that bad boy bubby posted up, it also keeps more attention on Queensland teams guaranteed 2 games a seasons verse each other, no matter what and a higher probability of them entering finals via one side of the pool...
Eh? We are talking a 22 club comp. Keep up!
there’s no need for any change with a 20 team comp, Imo.
 

Wb1234

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Eh? Yeh I 8now, my suggestion, as others have, is we dont.
We have three rep alone weekends. we done have rep rounds anymore sadly, we only have origin games mid season now.
In theory I agree with you 22 rounds is perfect. The season is too long and more tests is a good thing

in practice it will never happen

nrl clubs and players would riot
 

MugaB

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Eh? We are talking a 22 club comp. Keep up!
there’s no need for any change with a 20 team comp, Imo.
Then why pull up a 16 team comp when you did, when did you start spitballing a 22 team comp that involves less rounds
Its not about less rounds anyway, the broadcaster wants games to advertise throughout, you want to increase teams, but lower the rounds then we'll be never be able raise the content to get more money from them
 

Perth Red

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Then why pull up a 16 team comp when you did, when did you start spitballing a 22 team comp that involves less rounds
Its not about less rounds anyway, the broadcaster wants games to advertise throughout, you want to increase teams, but lower the rounds then we'll be never be able raise the content to get more money from them
Sigh, I started the discussion with my belief that conferences wouldn’t be needed until we went to 22 clubs.

And that even then I think a full comp playing less games is a better option. tv still gets more content, nrl gets to create more events to sell, players get less wear and tear on their bodies, fans don’t get bored half way through, international RL builds. Lots of positives to be had.

As I’ve shown with 22 clubs and 21 rounds tv still gets more than 10% increase in regular season games than this season plus lots of extra other content. 204 games this year - 231 games with a 21 round 22 team comp.

currently we have 26 weeks of regular season/origin plus finals. In my model we would have 25 Weeks Plus an extra week of finals. So basically same time length, more games, more events, less player impact leading to better quality. Winner winner chicken dinner.
 
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Wb1234

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Sigh, I started the discussion with my belief that conferences wouldn’t be needed until we went to 22 clubs.

And that even then I think a full comp playing less games is a better option. tv still gets more content, nrl gets to create more events to sell, players get less wear and tear on their bodies, fans don’t get bored half way through, international RL builds. Lots of positives to be had.

As I’ve shown with 22 clubs and 21 rounds tv still gets 10% more regular season games than this season plus lots of extra other content.
No chance of a tv deal near afl ever

would you be happy with that lol
 

MugaB

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Sigh, I started the discussion with my belief that conferences wouldn’t be needed until we went to 22 clubs.

And that even then I think a full comp playing less games is a better option. tv still gets more content, nrl gets to create more events to sell, players get less wear and tear on their bodies, fans don’t get bored half way through, international RL builds. Lots of positives to be had.

As I’ve shown with 22 clubs and 21 rounds tv still gets 10% more regular season games than this season plus lots of extra other content.
Let me guess we need perf to boost the player pool for us to get to this magic number 22
 

blue bags

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The federal government needs our help
To protect our northern borders from those pesky commies invaders from the north
A PNG team alone. Will not be sufficient
Need more team's around Australias northern borders
 

MugaB

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The federal government needs our help
To protect our northern borders from those pesky commies invaders from the north
A PNG team alone. Will not be sufficient
Need more team's around Australias northern borders
The next 3 bids North Broome Bears, Northern Territory Jets, Pacifika Pride
 

Perth Red

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No chance of a tv deal near afl ever

would you be happy with that lol
Afl just upped their tv deal by 25% with no expansion (yet) or extra content bar a magic weekend. If we upped ours to same amount yeh I’d be very happy, it’d more than pay for 22 clubs.
 

Wb1234

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Afl just upped their tv deal by 25% with no expansion (yet) or extra content bar a magic weekend. If we upped ours to same amount yeh I’d be very happy, it’d more than pay for 22 clubs.
They did offer extra content though

afl games go for 3 hours how else does the game bridge the gap
 

Perth Red

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They did offer extra content though

afl games go for 3 hours how else does the game bridge the gap
One extra round for 25%? Lol
saying tv won’t pay more for a 22 club comp despite them getting more than 10% more games plus extra other content across numerous more population areas seems a strange position to take. But as it isnt going to happen in next 30 years and I’ll be long gone after that I dont really care lol
 

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Can you be a little clearer as to what you mean please.
I actually do not understand what you are trying to say.

Using 20 teams

To play every team in your pool twice is 18 games. 6 games less then now.

you can't then play 9 extra games to play everyone in the other conference.

What is more likely to play everyone once, Then double up against local rivals etc

Which is close to what is uses currently now anyway
 

MugaB

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Using 20 teams

To play every team in your pool twice is 18 games. 6 games less then now.

you can't then play 9 extra games to play everyone in the other conference.

What is more likely to play everyone once, Then double up against local rivals etc

Which is close to what is uses currently now anyway
It would 10 games verse the other conference for a 20 team, 2 conference system, 18 games in conference, 10 games out of conference= 28 games
 

siv

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Sigh, I started the discussion with my belief that conferences wouldn’t be needed until we went to 22 clubs.

And that even then I think a full comp playing less games is a better option. tv still gets more content, nrl gets to create more events to sell, players get less wear and tear on their bodies, fans don’t get bored half way through, international RL builds. Lots of positives to be had.

As I’ve shown with 22 clubs and 21 rounds tv still gets more than 10% increase in regular season games than this season plus lots of extra other content. 204 games this year - 231 games with a 21 round 22 team comp.

currently we have 26 weeks of regular season/origin plus finals. In my model we would have 25 Weeks Plus an extra week of finals. So basically same time length, more games, more events, less player impact leading to better quality. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Ch9 only want 3 or 4 games a weekend

Doesnt matter if it 18 20 or 24 teams

All you may see is if we went Sydney v Regional pool games

Ch9 Brisbane could always show a Regional game, While Ch9 Sydney could do the same
 

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