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18th club, whose next?

Wb1234

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Afl don’t seem to know what either is
“The local AFL body, which in its original submission to the council claimed to have 1644 registered players, then reduced that figure to 238.

''It is really disturbing that a professional sporting body would use false statistics to gain access to junior sports grounds,'' said Leichhardt councillor Darcy Byrne, who has campaigned to keep the AFL off Birchgrove Oval. '
 

Pippen94

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“The local AFL body, which in its original submission to the council claimed to have 1644 registered players, then reduced that figure to 238.

''It is really disturbing that a professional sporting body would use false statistics to gain access to junior sports grounds,'' said Leichhardt councillor Darcy Byrne, who has campaigned to keep the AFL off Birchgrove Oval. '

They can play at absetos park at rozelle
 

Iamback

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A school getting free footy's
Ex player running a week's compulsory school sport

Should be counted as a junior
 

Gobsmacked

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I believe Rugby League is undertaking a shift in players to the downside in quantity due to quality..
Bigger ,faster , more skilful players are discouraging mediocre players.
And the product is improving as a result! By having a smaller higher quality player numbers, not only is it better for the players because they are testing themselves against better opponents and playing with better players but it makes it easier to identify good players- not only because you have less players to look through but they are easier to identify because they have decent opposition.

At this point it appears that whether or not it rises or fall, the outcomes are getting better results.
There's spots for 300 or so full time professional players, if we're focused on making sure the best talent get to the end goal ( which appears to be the case) then player numbers don't need to be high.
 

Perth Red

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I think kids are fine. Provided they hit say 10 weeks, Those that register and don't play shouldn't count.

That is why those using participation numbers are idiots
Since all sports went to 'participation rates' numbers are all rubbery, nearly as much as memberships lol
Should be registered players with a club for all sports. Then particaption numbers for casual/ltd exposure, schools programs.
Same as memberships should be full memberships, part memberships and non ticketed memberships to show a more useful data set.
 

Pippen94

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Since all sports went to 'participation rates' numbers are all rubbery, nearly as much as memberships lol
Should be registered players with a club for all sports. Then particaption numbers for casual/ltd exposure, schools programs.
Same as memberships should be full memberships, part memberships and non ticketed memberships to show a more useful data set.

Worst made up numbers are league figures from western Australia
 

Perth Red

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I believe Rugby League is undertaking a shift in players to the downside in quantity due to quality..
Bigger ,faster , more skilful players are discouraging mediocre players.
And the product is improving as a result! By having a smaller higher quality player numbers, not only is it better for the players because they are testing themselves against better opponents and playing with better players but it makes it easier to identify good players- not only because you have less players to look through but they are easier to identify because they have decent opposition.

At this point it appears that whether or not it rises or fall, the outcomes are getting better results.
There's spots for 300 or so full time professional players, if we're focused on making sure the best talent get to the end goal ( which appears to be the case) then player numbers don't need to be high.
Im not sure thats the reason lol. Lack of investment, better run other jnr sports, kids/parents getting softer, lack of school programs etc are more likely why the drop off in grassroots numbers.
The development of talent improvement is more casue than effect, less milk means the cream becomes much thinner and has to be developed more.
Reality is most people who play Rl will never be close to good enough to play professionally. That doesnt invalidate the playing of RL by the majority.
 

Wb1234

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I think kids are fine. Provided they hit say 10 weeks, Those that register and don't play shouldn't count.

That is why those using participation numbers are idiots

Absolutely
 
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Absolutely

Only 20-30k are registers players. The rest are tied up in AusKick, Superstars and other introduction programs.
 

Gobsmacked

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Im not sure thats the reason lol. Lack of investment, better run other jnr sports, kids/parents getting softer, lack of school programs etc are more likely why the drop off in grassroots numbers.
The development of talent improvement is more casue than effect, less milk means the cream becomes much thinner and has to be developed more.
Reality is most people who play Rl will never be close to good enough to play professionally. That doesnt invalidate the playing of RL by the majority.
You're just disagreeing for the sake of it. We know for a fact many kids are being discouraged due to the prominence of Tongan and Samoan kids ( bigger, faster and stronger) , it been well documented ( at least on the East coast where we have rl ..)

You use "lol's" for well known facts.
Do you even know what lol stands for?
I wonder.
 

Iamback

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You're just disagreeing for the sake of it. We know for a fact many kids are being discouraged due to the prominence of Tongan and Samoan kids ( bigger, faster and stronger) , it been well documented ( at least on the East coast where we have rl ..)

You use "lol's" for well known facts.
Do you even know what lol stands for?
I wonder.

Actually kids numbers are pretty good.

It is teenagers that you see the fall off. None of the issues are footy related.

Part time work after school is the main issue.

Retail is still Thursday night, Sunday double time, They always get the young ones on.

Most clubs train Tues and Thursday. That leaves 1 day of training and you miss some games depending on the hours...


Throw in having a girlfriend that you spend time with and weekend sport gets pushed aside

someone at 15 knows if they are a chance of making it a career.
 

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