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18th club, whose next?

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None of this has any relevance to East's claim that their assets would make them one of the top four richest clubs in the NRL.

BTW you desperately need to read up on the law of diminishing returns and market saturation, and it's funny that you're pretending that you'd support this side like you did the Dolphins.
Diminishing returns?

Using your logic, the Broncos should have less members and smaller attendances now that the Dolphins are in the NRL. They've never been stronger in both categories. Shows you don't know what you're talking about.
 

mongoose

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remember when the Lions were pulling crowds as big as the Broncos?

"people had a distaste for rugby league in brisbane after super league blah blah blah" in other words its not as strong as flogs like you claim it to be.
 

Perth Red

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Its a momentous time for NRl in Australia not seen since 1992, will the bigwigs have the balls to go all out on expansion, or once again retreat to their cowardly myopic small testes mindset?

PNG, Perth and Christchurch admitted in the next ten years would be huge statement of intent and courage by the NRL.
 

The Great Dane

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I knew exactly what you meant

At least you know the history now

next try googling all golds, 1905 all blacks and Albert Baskerville
Nothing I said was incorrect and nothing you've referenced here has any relevance to what I was talking about.
 

The Great Dane

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Diminishing returns?

Using your logic, the Broncos should have less members and smaller attendances now that the Dolphins are in the NRL. They've never been stronger in both categories. Shows you don't know what you're talking about.
You don't understand what diminishing returns means, and trying to explain it to you would be a waste of time...

Queensland's Education system; turning the Sunshine State into the Special Needs State one student at a time.
 

The Great Dane

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Its certainly on an upward positive trajectory.
On expansion its achieved nothing yet. Its added another heartland club that was 20 years overdue. If it does better with what comes next we shall see.
PVL's strategy is all about publicity boosting, but you can only create so many hollow, glitzy, events and clout case while ignoring the basics for so long before it all starts to become mundane. If anything that's the lesson we should have taken from RU's downfall in this country.

All these things have a price and sooner or later the bill will have to be paid. Odds are that PVL will have moved on long before then and all the dumbshits will put the blame on the poor bastards with the job of cleaning up his mess. Reminds me a lot of Arko and Quayle and the post Super League War.
 

Perth Red

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PVL's strategy is all about PR boosting, but you can only create so many hollow, glitzy, events and clout case for so long before it starts to become mundane.

All these things have a price and sooner or later the bill will have to be paid. Odds are that PVL will have moved on long before then and all the dumbshits will put the blame on the poor bastards with the job of cleaning up his mess. Reminds me a lot of Arko and Quayle and the post Super League War.
If England/GB manage to win a series then I can tell you a lot of people will care, at least in Northern England lol
 

The Great Dane

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If England/GB manage to win a series then I can tell you a lot of people will care, at least in Northern England lol
There aren't enough RL fans in the North of England that they can be reasonably described as 'a lot of people' anymore lol.

White anting your strongest market to make the others look more competitive in comparison isn't something that should be celebrated. We should be trying to raise people up, not nobble the strongest amongst us, which is another lesson that should be learnt from Arko and Quayle's tenure that isn't.
 

Perth Red

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There aren't enough RL fans in the North of England that they can be reasonably described as 'a lot of people' lol.

White anting your strongest market to make the others look more competitive in comparison isn't something that should be celebrated. We should be trying to raise people up, not knobble the strongest amongst us, which is another lesson that should be learnt from Arko and Quayle's tenure that isn't.
sorry wrong thread, I was in the 2025 ashes space lol
 
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You don't understand what diminishing returns means, and trying to explain it to you would be a waste of time...

Queensland's Education system; turning the Sunshine State into the Special Needs State one student at a time.
A typical Dane response whenever his assertions are scrutinised.

Can the diminishing returns principle be applied to rugby league?

If you're going to say affirmative action cannot apply to sport -- ever heard of the quota system in South Africa that forces national sporting teams to reserve a certain number of spots for players who aren't white? -- then you cannot use the diminishing returns principle.

What are you even trying to argue?

That adding more teams in Brisbane will cannibalise support for the existing ones?

The Dolphins' introduction coincided with a massive increase in active rugby league fans across Brisbane. The Broncos have never had more members and their attendances have improved significantly -- they're nearing record breaking levels.

Can the principle apply to two or three sports teams that aren't owned by the same company?

The profit made by the Broncos doesn't flow back to the NRL and Dolphins. The profit made from the Dolphins doesn't flow back to the NRL and Dolphins. Every club gets an annual grant and has to make money from football operations. So far the Broncos and Dolphins are making more from football operations than every other rugby league club on the planet. In the Broncos' case, they're making more money with the Dolphins than they did previously.

The onus on you is to prove the introduction of the Tigers will lead to the Broncos and Dolphins experiencing a decline in active support. So far you've failed to do this. Telling people they are dumb and saying you couldn't be bothered proving your point is the last resort of a snake oil salesman who has been exposed.
 

Perth Red

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It’s the law of diminishing returns

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Except the broncos
There's an inevitably of it when you add a secondary or third competitor into the same market. Dolphins wont be as big as Broncos and Easts would as likely not be as big as Dolphins. Thats not to say, given how far most of the comp is to Broncos, that Easts couldnt survive and wouldnt be one of the better supported teams in the comp. But thats probably a sad indictment of the rest of the comp.
Sydney is a classic example of over dilution where it has taken 100 years for clubs to even get close to cracking a 20k crowd base due to the number of clubs in one place.

As for Broncos current popularity (which has been seen at this level or close to before) how much is related to from and how much to have an inter city rival only time will tell.
 

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