18th club, whose next?

[Vlad59]

Maybe/maybe not. If you guys get to the grand final you might have saved some more money for that day.

Got a new job. Money is no issue. Get hangxiety too often now. Ruins my next day. Sign of age. Catches up with you mate.

 

[Wb1234]

Again true. As you said most of the s*** in this forum is one bloke from Perth talking crap and a few blokes talking crap back.

It’s an internet forum

Do you think the guys running the game are reading the forum for ideas ?

this forum has had a hard on for Perth for 20’years and been wrong all the time

 

[Colk]

Got a new job. Money is no issue. Get hangxiety too often now. Ruins my next day. Sign of age. Catches up with you mate.

Yeah fair enough.

 

[Colk]

It’s an internet forum

Do you think the guys running the game are reading the forum for ideas ?

this forum has had a hard on for Perth for 20’years and been wrong all the time

If it was a debate of ideas then it would be at least interesting.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

It’s an internet forum

Do you think the guys running the game are reading the forum for ideas ?

this forum has had a hard on for Perth for 20’years and been wrong all the time

They're all on tiktok

 

[Wb1234]

If it was a debate of ideas then it would be at least interesting.

yeh good luck with that

people just lie or shift the goal posts

People are just cheerleaders for their favourite bid and ignore any articles against it

eh png. Probably one hundred articles about it being the next team yet the same people still say Perth (the ones who been saying it for 20 yrs$

 

[Colk]

yeh good luck with that

people just lie or shift the goal posts

People are just cheerleaders for their favourite bid and ignore any articles against it

eh png. Probably one hundred articles about it being the next team yet the same people still say Perth (the ones who been saying it for 20 yrs$

You’re as guilty as the next man of that.

For example why is PNG a good idea? They might well be the next side but that doesn’t mean it is a good idea. You don’t just accept that because something happens that it is a good thing that it happens.

The only argument is well there is government money but a little bit of government money doesn’t suddenly make a third world country a first world country (and anybody who has been to a third world country knows this). Governments (sorry to be cynical because I am cynical about politics) also aren’t reliable for a number of reasons.

A third world country needs investment and it needs investment over several generations

 

[Pippen94]

You’re as guilty as the next man of that.

For example why is PNG a good idea? They might well be the next side but that doesn’t mean it is a good idea. You don’t just accept that because something happens that it is a good thing that it happens.

The only argument is well there is government money but a little bit of government money doesn’t suddenly make a third world country a first world country (and anybody who has been to a third world country knows this). Governments (sorry to be cynical because I am cynical about politics) also aren’t reliable for a number of reasons.

A third world country needs investment and it needs investment over several generations

PNG hunters have existed in the Queensland cup for years & have even won it..but they can't be in NRL because people want Perth.

 

[Wb1234]

You’re as guilty as the next man of that.

For example why is PNG a good idea? They might well be the next side but that doesn’t mean it is a good idea. You don’t just accept that because something happens that it is a good thing that it happens.

The only argument is well there is government money but a little bit of government money doesn’t suddenly make a third world country a first world country (and anybody who has been to a third world country knows this). Governments (sorry to be cynical because I am cynical about politics) also aren’t reliable for a number of reasons.

A third world country needs investment and it needs investment over several generations

If the forum is going to ignore all the articles about png then it’s not a place for serious discussion is it

I was one of the first people on here who said a png nrl side was a chance and was mocked for it

 

[Centy Coast]

PNG hunters have existed in the Queensland cup for years & have even won it..but they can't be in NRL because people want Perth.

PNG have won the QLD Cup once, but have lingered near to mid to bottom of the table more often than not, despite having a whole Country of rugby league mad villages to call on.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If it was a debate of ideas then it would be at least interesting.

Plenty of ideas have been presented by myself and others. The problem is the pro-Perth camp won't accept any criticism of their proposal because they cannot handle the truth about its flaws.

PRS in its current state isn't going to generate much revenue from game day for an NRL team. The corporate boxes in the western stand are horribly outdated and the ground has a limited capacity of 20.5k. This is an issue because a Perth-based NRL team will need to generate a significant amount from game day if it wants to run a strong football department. The best coaches, trainers, physiotherapists and analysts sign with the clubs that offer the best pay. Perth will need to have the sharpest minds in the game running its front office and football department if it wishes to be successful on the field like the Broncos, Storm, Roosters and Panthers.

Where will a Perth-based team get the funds it needs to compete with the larger clubs?

What happens to a Perth-based team when it has a poor run on the field and fan support dwindles?

Does the benefit of Perth playing 8 or 12 home games at 4pm AWST outweigh the potential risk of placing a team in such a hostile and unproven market?

These questions are yet to be answered.

Plonking a team in Perth under the naive belief it will never experience any financial hardship nor have any problem building its fanbase in a parochial fumbleball market is delusional.

Perth is a shit market for the broadcasters because the 8pm AEST Thurs/Fri game is beamed into Perth at 6pm AWST. The most watched programs on FTA are the 6pm news bulletins from Ch7 and 9. Not even the mighty AwFuL can bump the 6pm news from the main channel on Perth, despite it being a dyed in the wool fumbleball market.

FFS, the Brisbane Lions draw more viewers in Brisbane than the average AwFuL game between non-WA teams does in Perth. It's insane to expect the broadcasters to provide an extra $20m to cover a Perth-based team when it will be completely useless to them.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You’re as guilty as the next man of that.

For example why is PNG a good idea? They might well be the next side but that doesn’t mean it is a good idea. You don’t just accept that because something happens that it is a good thing that it happens.

The only argument is well there is government money but a little bit of government money doesn’t suddenly make a third world country a first world country (and anybody who has been to a third world country knows this). Governments (sorry to be cynical because I am cynical about politics) also aren’t reliable for a number of reasons.

A third world country needs investment and it needs investment over several generations

Do you not see the irony of your logic?

You're dismissing PNG's bid because it is dependent upon Gov funding and lacks the infrastructure to compete with the rest of the NRL.

How does that differ to Perth's bid?

A Perth-based team will require Gov funding to upgrade PRS into an NRL quality ground and build a high performance training centre to compete with the rest of the NRL. Perth is a rich city, but the amount of active RL supporters in it is very low and may not be large enough to generate the game day revenue needed to survive and thrive in the NRL. Perth lacks the infrastructure and ground support to be successful without assistance from the WA Gov or ARLC.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

PNG have won the QLD Cup once, but have lingered near to mid to bottom of the table more often than not, despite having a whole Country of rugby league mad villages to call on.

The WA Reds/West Coast Pirates fared far worse in the third tier and underage divisions of the NSWRL.

 

[Centy Coast]

Looks like the NRL will be accepting bid tenders in late June according to latest member email from the Bears.
There will probably be a media announcement in the next 24 hours.

 

[Perth Red]

Looks like the NRL will be accepting bid tenders in late June according to latest member email from the Bears.
There will probably be a media announcement in the next 24 hours.

Geez I hope they have an open bid process.

 

[MugaB]

Geez I hope they have an open bid process.

If they do it won't be for the 18th team, most likely for the next two so they can have a lead time into the following broadcast deal, Perth needs a bid ready to roll now not some public invisible invitation to the ball. Just coz the titans got in last time you guys bid, doesn't mean you should stop trying, the fact that you are waiting like some dog at the front door for the mailman, shows f**kall nuts,

Incase you haven't noticed V'landys backed the dolphins coz they didn't waver from the pressures of the lacking in their bid, the other few bids decided to suckup and merge in hopes to form some mega bid that would dwarf their rival all last minute, all desperation tactics, instead just showed how inept they were to become the 17th team with values and strong leadership, they knew they had a under capacity ground, but they pushed, knowing in future years they could extend and upgrade it, whilst still using suncorp as the major 2nd Tennant anyways.
Where's that favourite line of yours PR, "cmon nrl"
Well they are probably saying that to you too, the total fact that this article is out there is coz they've wanted to publicly spout that they are still around, yet still no bid has been put forth... secret is there wont be any formal open invitations, just balls to bid, just like Fiji, and that new nz keas bid, hell even the bears have stated they only want a location, instead of just choosing one on their own without a held nrl hand,they should just bid in wherever and rockn roll full steam ahead with it

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If they do it won't be for the 18th team, most likely for the next two so they can have a lead time into the following broadcast deal, Perth needs a bid ready to roll now not some public invisible invitation to the ball. Just coz the titans got in last time you guys bid, doesn't mean you should stop trying, the fact that you are waiting like some dog at the front door for the mailman, shows f**kall nuts,

Incase you haven't noticed V'landys backed the dolphins coz they didn't waver from the pressures of the lacking in their bid, the other few bids decided to suckup and merge in hopes to form some mega bid that would dwarf their rival all last minute, all desperation tactics, instead just showed how inept they were to become the 17th team with values and strong leadership, they knew they had a under capacity ground, but they pushed, knowing in future years they could extend and upgrade it, whilst still using suncorp as the major 2nd Tennant anyways.
Where's that favourite line of yours PR, "cmon nrl"
Well they are probably saying that to you too, the total fact that this article is out there is coz they've wanted to publicly spout that they are still around, yet still no bid has been put forth... secret is there wont be any formal open invitations, just balls to bid, just like Fiji, and that new nz keas bid, hell even the bears have stated they only want a location, instead of just choosing one on their own without a held nrl hand,they should just bid in wherever and rockn roll full steam ahead with it

The WA Gov really needs to stop f**king about and build a proper rectanglular stadium. If I was part of the ARLC then I wouldn't trust the WA Gov to support an NRL club when it cannot be f**ked spending $150m on a new western stand at PRS. It tells me the WA Gov will do the bare minimum to get an NRL licence and then sit on its arse and do nothing. Just like the ACT Gov.

 

[Brian potter]

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[mongoose]

The problem is the NRL should have a strategic plan for expansion and growth, not select the "best bid" like it's a job interview. The NRL doesn't need central coast or Brisbane 3 just because it ticks some short term boxes. If it wants Perth then the NRL should be working with a Perth consortium and the WA govt to improve their chances of being successful. Such an amateur organisation sometimes.

 

[mongoose]

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