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18th club, whose next?

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who is actually arguing that Hull should have 2 teams?

@Perth Red.

if you wanted a well spread out comp in the UK you wouldn't have half the current Super League teams. You would have a few teams in London, 1 in Birmingham, 1 in Manchester, 1 in Liverpool, Leeds, Leicester, Newcastle etc

Tell that to @Perth Red. He's good at criticising the game in Australia but says sweet f**k all about the shortcomings in England.

half these cities don't play League

Like Adelaide?

@Perth Red is arguing for Adelaide to get one of the next three licences.

and SL doesn't have the money or reach to expand into any of them.

The ARLC doesn't have the money or reach to prop up teams in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. We generate less revenue and cannot afford to waste money on multi-generational expansion projects across three markets. @Perth Red should worry more about the future of the Storm.

Will Melbourne continue to be competitive when Bellamy retires?

AwFuL are losing a lot of money on the Suns and Giants. That could be our future if we expand into Adelaide and Perth.

European and Japanese rugby are a potential threat to the NRL because they have the money to poach some of our players. The last thing our game can afford is to lose players to these competitions. Keeping the salary cap in line with our competitors is a better investment than pissing it down the drain on Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.
 

Perth Red

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@Perth Red.



Tell that to @Perth Red. He's good at criticising the game in Australia but says sweet f**k all about the shortcomings in England.



Like Adelaide?

@Perth Red is arguing for Adelaide to get one of the next three licences.



The ARLC doesn't have the money or reach to prop up teams in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. We generate less revenue and cannot afford to waste money on multi-generational expansion projects across three markets. @Perth Red should worry more about the future of the Storm.

Will Melbourne continue to be competitive when Bellamy retires?

AwFuL are losing a lot of money on the Suns and Giants. That could be our future if we expand into Adelaide and Perth.

European and Japanese rugby are a potential threat to the NRL because they have the money to poach some of our players. The last thing our game can afford is to lose players to these competitions. Keeping the salary cap in line with our competitors is a better investment than pissing it down the drain on Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.
Yes it does, it just decides to spend it elsewhere.

since afl expansion the afls revenue has gone up (from 2025) by around $300mill a year. Suns and gws are costing them $55mill a year combined. They are still well ahead having. The extra content and national reach.
 
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same reason politis does: metro reach and national prominence. Growing new fans and new markets. More money and more fans. Simples really

Politis also said the 18th team should be the Brisbane Tigers or Ipswich Jets.

Where's the players for Adelaide and Perth going to come from?

Twenty-five years of sustained success by the Storm has failed to generate anything more than a niche following in Melbourne. The Storm required $100m of bail out money from News LTD and ARLC to finance their operation. I've shown you the SMH article that detailed how much they over spent to get where they are today. You've deluded yourself into believing Adelaide and Perth can achieve this without having to spend up big like the Storm did.

not to mention in perth at least there is a reasonable sized hardcore rugby league community that should have a local club to follow.

Bullshit.

While the odd game in Perth has drawn reasonable crowds, there have been a few that were played in front of few fans. The NRL Nines in Perth failed miserably.

it’s pretty selfish when you have two clubs to follow and another 1 hour away to be asking for third when a sizeable amount of other rugby league fans don’t have any.

Perth doesn't have a sizeable amount of RL fans.

4k players in Perth.

The average NRL game is watched by 6-15k people in Perth on 9Gem.

NRL Nines in Perth was a flop.

Only the odd "event" game has drawn a respectable crowd in Perth. It's not enough to say there's a large RL community in Perth.

Brisbane is a dyed in wool rugby league mad city that has earnt the right to have a third team. RL in Brisbane has widespread fanatical support that generates a commercial return for its clubs, the broadcasters and the NRL.

You can always watch the NRL on TV. It's all you deserve.
 
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Yes it does, it just decides to spend it elsewhere.

since afl expansion the afls revenue has gone up (from 2025) by around $300mill a year. Suns and gws are costing them $55mill a year combined. They are still well ahead having. The extra content and national reach.

What are you talking about?

The Suns and Giants were added over a decade ago.

There's no guarantee the broadcasters will pay significantly more for teams in Adelaide and Perth
 
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Last game 45k, suck it. go follow the dolphins if you want a team to support.

The figure has gone from 42/43k to 45k. It wasn't a game, either. It was a double header. It's in no way indicative of how many "hard-core" RL fans are in Perth.

If there are 43k "hard-core" RL fans in Perth then how come the 13 NRL matches played at Perth Rectangular Stadium have only averaged 14k?

Why did the NRL Nines event at Perth Rectangular Stadium only draw 24k over 2 days?

You already have a team to support. Melbourne Storm.
 

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Yes it does, it just decides to spend it elsewhere.

since afl expansion the afls revenue has gone up (from 2025) by around $300mill a year. Suns and gws are costing them $55mill a year combined. They are still well ahead having. The extra content and national reach.
You managed to post this drivel during one of the greatest rugby league grand finals on history ?

You must be devastated after seeing a game of rugby league like that
 

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And the logic of arguing "people said Brisbane2 wouldn't work, and it did" seems to be arguing for expansion into new areas, not against it
 

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Interesting times for RL in Logan. We've now got the Souths Logan Magpies based at Logan Metro Sports Park in Heritage Park. The LCC is investing in its facilities.

Tigers cover the eastern suburbs and Magpies are now in the western suburbs.

In order for the Brisbane Tigers to work they will need to affiliate themselves with the Magpies and Jets.


The Souths Logan Magpies have found their new nest and are ready to swoop.​
The club is set to play its first game at Logan Metro Sports Park this Saturday (March 18), thanks to a partnership between Logan City Council and Queensland Rugby League (QRL).​
Council’s premier Heritage Park venue is set for revival as a flagship rugby league facility under the stewardship of the new leaseholders.​
The QRL’s exciting game plan for the venue will build on the City of Logan’s proud reputation as a junior rugby league powerhouse.​
Clubs in Logan have produced the likes of:​
Former Kangaroos, Maroons and Melbourne Storm captain Cameron Smith​
Samoa World Cup, Maroons and Canberra star Josh Papali’i​
Former Australian and Queensland representative and Bronco Corey Parker.​
Australian and Queensland representative and NRLW Premiership player Tallisha Harden​
The main field at Logan Metro is the same size as the playing surface at Suncorp Stadium, the home of State of Origin.​
The Magpies kicked off their 2023 season with a strong Round 1 result under their new head coach Karmichael Hunt, who is a rugby league and rugby union international who also had a stint in the AFL.​
The multi-field complex is also the new home ground for the Browns Plains Bears RLFC.​
School rugby league carnivals will be held at the venue, which will also facilitate new talent pathways for local players, coaches and referees.​
Mayor Darren Power said rugby league has proud traditions in the City of Logan.​
“Our city is a proven breeding ground of rugby league talent and this new arrangement ensures that will continue,” Cr Power said.​
“The next generation of rugby league legends will get to hone their skills in their own backyard.”​
The partnership will see Logan City Council invest in facilities and opportunities in support of the QRL’s activation of the Logan Metro Sports Park.​
QRL CEO Rohan Sawyer acknowledged the support of Logan City Council.​
“We’re extremely proud of this partnership and the many benefits it will deliver to the Logan community in the years to come,” Sawyer said.​
“We know how much rugby league means to people in communities right across Queensland, which is why we’re thrilled to partner with Logan City Council to provide another safe and inclusive space for rugby league participants.​
“This particular project strengthens rugby league talent pathways, a key component of the QRL’s recently released Infrastructure Strategy. Logan already has a proud history of producing NRL players and it’s exciting to think about the array of talent coming through the area via the Browns Plains Bears and Souths Logan Magpies.”​
City Lifestyle Chair Councillor Laurie Koranski said the reimagined Logan Metro was another example of Council making sport more accessible to local athletes and their families.​
“We are delighted to support the development of a sporting facility that will allow clubs like South Logan Magpies and the Browns Plains Bears to stretch their wings,” Cr Koranski said.​
“We are also looking forward to the venue becoming a place where rugby league can be enjoyed and celebrated by the entire City of Logan community, starting with the Magpies’ first home game this weekend.”​
Division 8 Cr Jacob Heremaia said that Heritage Park residents join the rest of the Logan community in welcoming the redevelopment of Logan Metro.​
“This partnership is a boost for not only the passionate rugby community in Logan, but its local residents who will benefit from the reinvigorated facility,” Cr Heremaia said.​
“Logan Metro is more than just a top-of-the-line facility, it is a home and a heart for sports in our community."​
The redevelopment of the facility comes following extensive community consultation on the project led by Council’s Advisory Committee which included Councillors Jon Raven, Tim Frazer and Scott Bannan alongside the Mayor and Councillor Koranski.​
Hunt, whose love of league began as a junior Souths player, hopes the Magpies’ move will inspire future City of Logan champions.​
“It’s a great facility for us as a community club and a semi-professional one, to have all this field space and the gym access,” Hunt said.​
“It’s nice to bring our whole operation to Logan… (and) have a presence in the community that we represent.”​
Logan Metro Sports Park is at 357 Browns Plains Road in Heritage Park.​
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