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18th club, whose next?

Timbo

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Well, could we play a 28 game season?

20 teams, Northern and Southern conferences.

Play your own conference home and away, play all the other teams once.

I don’t like the idea of having a competition where you don’t play every other team during the regular season.
 

blue bags

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The Superleague fist division comp only need 5 nsw clubs. the 4 big Sydney clubs with decent stadiums will do. The dross can become feeders In the second divison and play in their beloved shthole suburban grounds.
souths
roosters
dogs
eels
knights
in first division with other big city national clubs should do it.
Northern beaches. Northern areas of Sydney
Needs a few teams 😔
 

blue bags

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Surely the bulldogs would be in Broome?
I edited the post
Added in Broome Bulldogs
And Bear's are the feeder Club
for mount Isa roosters
Now you want add the Eagles aswell
As feeder club to the mount Isa roosters
What about central coast Gosford
Needs a team there
 

Marlins

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A 20 team conference could work.
Play each team in your conference twice (8games) play each other team once (15games)
And one other team in another conference in a rivalry round (1game) = 24 games.

Playoffs and finals -
Highest ranked team in each conference avoids playoffs and makes it to week two/fianls.
Playoffs are 2nd/3rd in each conference fighting for a finals place. 8 teams make finals, highest ranked plays lowest ranked at highest ranks home ground and this continues until GF. 4 weeks of playoffs/finals as we have now. Just basically a top 12 which I would implement anyway if we’re to go to 20 teams.

northern/QLD
- Cows
- Broncs
- Dolphins
- Titans
- Brisbane 3 or PNG

NSW East
- Manly
- Roosters
- South’s
- Dragons
- Sharks

NSW West
- Penrith
- Eels
- Dogs
- Wests
- Knights

National
- Raiders
- Storm
- Warriors
- Perth
- NZ2 or PNG
 

blue bags

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A 20 team conference could work.
Play each team in your conference twice (8games) play each other team once (15games)
And one other team in another conference in a rivalry round (1game) = 24 games.

Playoffs and finals -
Highest ranked team in each conference avoids playoffs and makes it to week two/fianls.
Playoffs are 2nd/3rd in each conference fighting for a finals place. 8 teams make finals, highest ranked plays lowest ranked at highest ranks home ground and this continues until GF. 4 weeks of playoffs/finals as we have now. Just basically a top 12 which I would implement anyway if we’re to go to 20 teams.

northern/QLD
- Cows
- Broncs
- Dolphins
- Titans
- Brisbane 3 or PNG

NSW East
- Manly
- Roosters
- South’s
- Dragons
- Sharks

NSW West
- Penrith
- Eels
- Dogs
- Wests
- Knights

National
- Raiders
- Storm
- Warriors
- Perth
- NZ2 or PNG
Adelaide RAMS
 

MugaB

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I'd love there to be conferences, but there's no point for it in the NRL yet.

It would be fine for the purposes of the draw, but that's it. So long as the season is long enough that each team can play each other at least once, conferences should have no bearing on finals.
Exactly this!!! Scheduling purposes should be the only reason this happens, and create a second ladder, top4 enters the finals
 

MugaB

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It's a back-door way of Sydney teams avoiding travel and playing weaker opposition more frequently.

It's something that Phil Gould is championing out of pure self interest.

A Conference can't work with such a concentration of teams in one city. Unless you relocate or cull half of them.
Or split them sydney clubs between the two conferences, and add the remaining expansion teams to them, then theyll all have to travel to and from QLD, while the other travels to VIC and NZ
Simple

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MugaB

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A 20 team conference could work.
Play each team in your conference twice (8games) play each other team once (15games)
And one other team in another conference in a rivalry round (1game) = 24 games.

Playoffs and finals -
Highest ranked team in each conference avoids playoffs and makes it to week two/fianls.
Playoffs are 2nd/3rd in each conference fighting for a finals place. 8 teams make finals, highest ranked plays lowest ranked at highest ranks home ground and this continues until GF. 4 weeks of playoffs/finals as we have now. Just basically a top 12 which I would implement anyway if we’re to go to 20 teams.

northern/QLD
- Cows
- Broncs
- Dolphins
- Titans
- Brisbane 3 or PNG

NSW East
- Manly
- Roosters
- South’s
- Dragons
- Sharks

NSW West
- Penrith
- Eels
- Dogs
- Wests
- Knights

National
- Raiders
- Storm
- Warriors
- Perth
- NZ2 or PNG
This does nothing for player talent, if anything it drives more players to leave the expansion areas and join the NSW clubs, as TGD had pointed out earlier
 
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Or split them sydney clubs between the two conferences, and add the remaining expansion teams to them, then theyll all have to travel to and from QLD, while the other travels to VIC and NZ
Simple
For this purpose I will use PNG, Perth and NZ2 in an example.

Conference 1:
Tigers
Panthers
Eels
Manly
Newcastle
Brisbane
Titans
Cowboys
Dolphins
PNG

CONFERENCE 2
Easts
South's
Cronulla
Dragons
Bulldogs
Canberra
Storm
Perth
Wahs
NZ2
 
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@MugaB
How easy would it be to set up the draw for a two conference system.
Playing each team in their conference twice in the season and each team in the other conference once each season, with home grounds alternating every other season between conferences.

Rnd 1: Conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 2: conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 3: conference 1 vs conference 2
Rnd 4: conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 5: conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 6: conference 1 vs conference 2
Etc.
28 round season.
Local derbies intact, plus an added "inter conference rivalry " every 3rd week.

Edit: it would be the closest that the NRL has to a real home and away season. Not like the shit fight they have now where teams play each other sometimes only a few rounds apart.
 
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siv

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It's a back-door way of Sydney teams avoiding travel and playing weaker opposition more frequently.

It's something that Phil Gould is championing out of pure self interest.

A Conference can't work with such a concentration of teams in one city. Unless you relocate or cull half of them.
This is rubbish

If you do the numbers you will find that teams will always travel around the same

There is a group who always travel - Cowboys, Storm, Warriors, Canberra - 12 games

Qld teams - 9 games

NSW Teams - 5 games plus Magic round. Plus all take a home game to a regional location

Sydney v Regional pool wont change this
 

Canard

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@MugaB
How easy would it be to set up the draw for a two conference system.
Playing each team in their conference twice in the season and each team in the other conference once each season, with home grounds alternating every other season between conferences.

Rnd 1: Conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 2: conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 3: conference 1 vs conference 2
Rnd 4: conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 5: conference 1 vs conference 1
Rnd 6: conference 1 vs conference 2
Etc.
28 round season.
Local derbies intact, plus an added "inter conference rivalry " every 3rd week.

Edit: it would be the closest that the NRL has to a real home and away season. Not like the shit fight they have now where teams play each other sometimes only a few rounds apart.

Things like Origin mean that playing every team home and away is inherently unfair anyway, so whilst it might seem fair on paper it's pointless.

Our sport is to small to introduce the inflexibility of conferences into the draw.
This is rubbish

If you do the numbers you will find that teams will always travel around the same

There is a group who always travel - Cowboys, Storm, Warriors, Canberra - 12 games

Qld teams - 9 games

NSW Teams - 5 games plus Magic round. Plus all take a home game to a regional location

Sydney v Regional pool wont change this
A Sydney only conference, as is suggested by Gould and the media, is inherently biased.
 
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Things like Origin mean that playing every team home and away is inherently unfair anyway, so whilst it might seem fair on paper it's pointless.

Our sport is to small to introduce the inflexibility of conferences into the draw.
Origin is inherently unfair to clubs as it stands now, so nothing changes.
I agree with your second point if there were 4 or 5 different conferences, but I'm talking about two. Sometimes simple is the best way.
The NRL have a silent conference system now anyway. They ask each club who they would like to play twice, plus they try and make sure, what they consider to be blockbuster games, to occur.
 

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