18th club, whose next?

[flippikat]

I think mate one thing NZ2 has going for it that the Aussie teams don't is a potential increase in Sky NZ money.

All expansion teams (including any potential NZ team) will help the NRL get an Aussie TV deal boost because of the extra content. But it's only NZ2 alongaide the Warriors that will drive an increase from NZTV.

A factor that the NRL will no doubt be keenly aware of and may offset any 'licence fee' discrepancy between The Jets and NZ2, if indeed there is any discrepancy at all.

Careful there - the NZ TV market doesn't have the same degree of competition that Australia does - there's no pay TV competitor for Sky, and free to air just won't have the cash.

There's word that TVNZ may be looking at a Pay TV service of their own, but honestly good luck to them taking on the might of Sky when Spark Sport have tried before & failed.

Given that Sky is likely to be in a monopoly situation for the next TV rights negotiation - they really have the upper hand, don't they?

 

[Wb1234]

Careful there - the NZ TV market doesn't have the same degree of competition that Australia does - there's no pay TV competitor for Sky, and free to air just won't have the cash.

There's word that TVNZ may be looking at a Pay TV service of their own, but honestly good luck to them taking on the might of Sky when Spark Sport have tried before & failed.

Given that Sky is likely to be in a monopoly situation for the next TV rights negotiation - they really have the upper hand, don't they?

Foxsports had little completion for ages didn’t stop them pay afl and league more every time

nrl ratings are through the roof in nz

sky would love another nz nrl side

 

[Matt_CBY]

It’s about another event to sell high level advertising for.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Careful there - the NZ TV market doesn't have the same degree of competition that Australia does - there's no pay TV competitor for Sky, and free to air just won't have the cash.

There's word that TVNZ may be looking at a Pay TV service of their own, but honestly good luck to them taking on the might of Sky when Spark Sport have tried before & failed.

Given that Sky is likely to be in a monopoly situation for the next TV rights negotiation - they really have the upper hand, don't they?

Yes absolutely, there won't be a bidding war for the rights, but you'd imagine that a doubling of the NZ content including a derby match has got to be worth something extra. Point taken though, the value won't double

 

[Wb1234]

Yes absolutely, there won't be a bidding war for the rights, but you'd imagine that a doubling of the NZ content including a derby match has got to be worth something extra. Point taken though, the value won't double

33 million for one team

two teams should be 40 to 50 million

plus it’s free content for foxsports in Australia so even more valuable

nrl tv ratings were on par with super rugby and that’s with one nz nrl team and awful time slots for many nrl games in nz

we can easily become the dominant football code on tv in Australia fairly soon

 

[Gobsmacked]

Yes absolutely, there won't be a bidding war for the rights, but you'd imagine that a doubling of the NZ content including a derby match has got to be worth something extra. Point taken though, the value won't double

As it stands, Sky are in a kinda take it or leave it position with the Warriors but the introduction of a brand new team and the hype surrounding them..
That will drive new subscribers through the roof! It's must have content!
All Peter will be doing is say, look, we can afford easily to run it on fta and let the entire country get on board as an investment into the growth of the game or what are you willing to pay?
In all honesty, it could be more than double what they pay now.
Since the last deal ,the NRL has exploded in popularity in NZ , it probably worth double in it's current form.

 

[Perth Red]

Sky NZ deal sat at $20mill a year cash and contra forever. It wasnt until Spark entered the rights bidding that Sky upped that historic amount by $12mill cash and contra (or a 60% increase). Without Spark we are back to a NZ monopoly. Vlandys wont turn down $30mill and its hard to see why Sky would pay more when there is no threat to them losing the rights. Contra went up $10mill a year in this tv deal cycle. We know $5mill was from Ch9. The other $5mill was split between SkyNZ and Fox, split unknown so we dont know how much extra cash the Skynz deal was actually worth.
Every $1million increase they offer requires them to get 1,225 new subscribers to break even.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Sky NZ deal sat at $20mill a year cash and contra forever. It wasnt until Spark entered the rights bidding that Sky upped that historic amount by $12mill cash and contra (or a 60% increase). Without Spark we are back to a NZ monopoly. Vlandys wont turn down $30mill and its hard to see why Sky would pay more when there is no threat to them losing the rights. Contra went up $10mill a year in this tv deal cycle. We know $5mill was from Ch9. The other $5mill was split between SkyNZ and Fox, split unknown so we dont know how much extra cash the Skynz deal was actually worth.
Every $1million increase they offer requires them to get 1,225 new subscribers to break even.

Maybe FTA might be a bit more interested this time?

 

[Perth Red]

Maybe FTA might be a bit more interested this time?

Possibly but theres probably little money in it and SkyNz wont be keen to let go of their exclusivity.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Possibly but theres probably little money in it and SkyNz wont be keen to let go of their exclusivity.

Im sure Sky want to pay as little as possible whilst retaining exclusive rights … I guess it’s up to the NRL to do everything they can to break the “monopoly “ you speak of …one of which is FTA … they are certainly going to the market when the game has never been more popular there…

 

[Matt_CBY]

Sky have a free to air channel now. “Sky Open”.

 

[Wb1234]

Sky NZ deal sat at $20mill a year cash and contra forever. It wasnt until Spark entered the rights bidding that Sky upped that historic amount by $12mill cash and contra (or a 60% increase). Without Spark we are back to a NZ monopoly. Vlandys wont turn down $30mill and its hard to see why Sky would pay more when there is no threat to them losing the rights. Contra went up $10mill a year in this tv deal cycle. We know $5mill was from Ch9. The other $5mill was split between SkyNZ and Fox, split unknown so we dont know how much extra cash the Skynz deal was actually worth.
Every $1million increase they offer requires them to get 1,225 new subscribers to break even.

Warriors were never this popular

ratings are basically on par with super rugby

and that’s with one nz nrl team

with two teams we will be the dominant football code in nz

 

[Wb1234]

Sky have a free to air channel now. “Sky Open”.

Which has been showing loads of nrl content

 

[BuffaloRules]

Sky have a free to air channel now. “Sky Open”.

Interesting… do you know if it shows any NRL games at the moment ?

 

[Wb1234]

Interesting… do you know if it shows any NRL games at the moment ?

Sky Open invites New Zealanders to enjoy free Friday Night Footy and Super Rugby Saturday - Sky

www.sky.co.nz

 

[BuffaloRules]

Sky Open invites New Zealanders to enjoy free Friday Night Footy and Super Rugby Saturday - Sky

www.sky.co.nz

Assume they must pump the ads by gradually delaying the game …. Still … better than nothing if you are a tightwad RL fan living over there

 

[Wb1234]

Big rise in viewership numbers on Sky platforms

NRL shows impressive growth in viewership audiences on Sky throughout the 2024 season.

www.warriors.kiwi

Nrl tv ratings in nz up 14 percent in one year

 

[Wb1234]

League Ratings surge in NZ, but Rugby hanging on - Sports Industry AU

Figures released by Sky NZ show the NRL enjoying a big bump in tv ratings on Sky in NZ, but Rugby is maintaining a small lead as it hangs on. The data shows that while Rugby Union leads in linear television, its League that hold the front position in streaming. In both cases, not by...

www.footyindustry.com

Nrl leads union on pay tv and just behind union on fta

yeh sky nz are going to pay less for the nrl rights with another team in it

 

[Gobsmacked]

League Ratings surge in NZ, but Rugby hanging on - Sports Industry AU

Figures released by Sky NZ show the NRL enjoying a big bump in tv ratings on Sky in NZ, but Rugby is maintaining a small lead as it hangs on. The data shows that while Rugby Union leads in linear television, its League that hold the front position in streaming. In both cases, not by...

www.footyindustry.com

Nrl leads union on pay tv and just behind union on fta

yeh sky nz are going to pay less for the nrl rights with another team in it

The NRL are now the primary reason that Sky has subscribers... Sky lose the NRL are they loss hundreds of thousands of subscribers...
Apparently though.. the NRL has no leverage at the negotiating table...

 

[flippikat]

The NRL are now the primary reason that Sky has subscribers... Sky lose the NRL are they loss hundreds of thousands of subscribers...
Apparently though.. the NRL has no leverage at the negotiating table...

Yeah, but if the NRL shuns Sky, who do they go with.. TVNZ? Sure, probable uproar when the State owned broadcaster pays big money for it though... and they've been recently cost cutting.

Discovery/TV3? Nope - they just axed their whole newsroom to save money.

Let's be honest, unless some white-knight media outlet (streaming?) comes along or they do their OWN subscription streaming service for NZ, the NRL will take a cut in NZ broadcast revenue if they ditch Sky.

And Sky know it.