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18th club, whose next?

Matt_CBY

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No crying from me. I have no vested interest whether Perth or any other team gets in. They can choose the Warialda Wombats for all I care. People on here will say the ARLC should set the bar high on who they admit and any team that joins should pay for the privilege, and fair enough. But to have every bid fall sort and only have PNG appearing acceptable as it's being bankrolled by Australian taxpayers is a bit embarrassing given its the most watched sport on Australian TV and most were feeling investors would be clamouring to join the rivers of money supposedly generated by clubs.
Definitely crying.
Not embarrassing at all. Watch how it plays out.
 

Matt_CBY

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The NZ government didn’t pay $500million for Foresyth Barr and Te Kaha stadiums.
Foresyth Barr got $15m from the govt the majority came from the Dunedin city council.
Large Chunk of the Te Kaha stadium also came from the council and a lot was from the Earthquake recovery fund, without the earthquake Jade Stadium would likely still be in use with at most a couple of upgrades.
The NZ govt doesn’t traditionally put too much towards sports projects, the only times in recent memory I recall them intervening is for the 2011 RWC and the Americas cup precinct. Even then they went for the cheap option of Eden park upgrade vs the more favoured (from the public) waterfront stadium that is still trying to get off the ground- it was a perfect opportunity to get the govt to pay for it but it didn’t happen, can’t see them stumping up for a sports team unfortunately
More favour by sports fan maybe. A lot of opposition to it though.
 

Matiunz

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Pretty sure it was isaako who said he was from the South Island and came to Australia because he had a better chance of making it

Not sure where that blonde kiwi forward the cowboys got is from but he moved over too

Even Benji Marshall was scouted from nz and put at keebra park high by the Tigers

Literally a lack of opportunity in nz with only one nrl side
Griffin Neame is who you are thinking of. He’s a west coaster.
Even if there’s another NZ team we need to improve the local scene dramatically to get more to stay, have heard many a story that recruiters/agents will advise kids to go into Aus school systems as they stand a better chance at making it vs the Warriors systems.
 

Matiunz

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More favour by sports fan maybe. A lot of opposition to it though.
Hadn’t heard much? But ratepayers not interested in sports will always oppose anything that doesn’t benefit them. Eden park has history but that’s about it, it’s a money pit that keeps getting money poured into it and pissed off locals fighting any increase in events it needs to turn a profit, being in a largely residential area it’s not ideally located. Waterfront at least injects some much needed vibrancy back into the cbd
 

Wb1234

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Griffin Neame is who you are thinking of. He’s a west coaster.
Even if there’s another NZ team we need to improve the local scene dramatically to get more to stay, have heard many a story that recruiters/agents will advise kids to go into Aus school systems as they stand a better chance at making it vs the Warriors systems.

Jordan Riki and jamaye isaako

That griffen guy also as you said
 

MugaB

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What do you mean? The wa govt has made a committment of $450mill spend if there is an nrl club in perth. They also paid the $1/2mill cost of the bid submission. What do you expect them to be offering before nrl has decide what they’ll do?
Fund the whole thing..... png bid seems to be funded the whole way, yet WA govt won't do it unless the licence is granted
 

Matiunz

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Jordan Riki and jamaye isaako

That griffen guy also as you said
Even in that Article it says Riki left NZ TWICE to go to an Australian club, even being homesick going to Brisbane was seen as better option for him than Auckland- that’s one of the big problems we need to fix, we need these guys seeing their ‘local’ team as the aspiration and best option. You have to look at why these kids aren’t playing for the Warriors currently
 

MugaB

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According to latest reports that team will be PNG.

Which is a disaster for the game
Oh the sorrow, the inhumanity, the indignity, what a disaster!!! All that money getting given to the game, what are they going to do with all that money... ffs what a croc you are,
are you sore that AFL isn't getting any for its NT team, is that why you deathride this whole govt handout
 

AlwaysGreen

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Yet they are happy to deal directly with the ARLC to get a team in perth, and create a coe specifically for that team (also not what tax payers money is for)
Tax payer money is for promoting sport (therefore health) and tourism. If a coe makes the team better and so promotes health and tourism then it's an investment that ultimately helps the state.

A state government Bankrolling a whole team is not what taxpayers money is for.

Peanuts, get your Peanuts here, Peanuts.
 

Wb1234

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Even in that Article it says Riki left NZ TWICE to go to an Australian club, even being homesick going to Brisbane was seen as better option for him than Auckland- that’s one of the big problems we need to fix, we need these guys seeing their ‘local’ team as the aspiration and best option. You have to look at why these kids aren’t playing for the Warriors currently
The reality is the best kiwi league players aren’t produced by the warriors

Having Aussie clubs getting kiwi players is a good thing as there is only so many places at the warriors

The warriors need a sustained period where the club is run well off the field with the focus on juniors not paying overs for kiwi players developed by Aussie clubs

According to Perth red kiwis now represent 30 percent of nrl players
 

AlwaysGreen

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The tweenage girl is here. This Peanut doesn't even qualify for the peanut gallery as their brain capacity, immaturity and swans life membership makes her ineligible.
 

Maximus

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Tax payer money is for promoting sport (therefore health) and tourism. If a coe makes the team better and so promotes health and tourism then it's an investment that ultimately helps the state.

A state government Bankrolling a whole team is not what taxpayers money is for.

Peanuts, get your Peanuts here, Peanuts.

If afl was asking a govt to fully fund a team, these same people would have the opposite opinion to what they have in this thread. They'd be whinging that taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for it.
 

Pippen94

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If afl was asking a govt to fully fund a team, these same people would have the opposite opinion to what they have in this thread. They'd be whinging that taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for it.

AFL scratching around talking about how popular their sport is in PNG. If they had same offer a PNG team would be in their comp already.
 

T to the T

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Tax payer money is for promoting sport (therefore health) and tourism. If a coe makes the team better and so promotes health and tourism then it's an investment that ultimately helps the state.

A state government Bankrolling a whole team is not what taxpayers money is for.

Peanuts, get your Peanuts here, Peanuts.
Money that was going to be spent on foreign aid already. I can't understand why so many RL fans are butthurt about foreign aid being spent on NRL? The AFL would kill for this and I can't imagine the Mexicans being as pissweak as some posters on this board. Don't look a gift horse in the month.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Money that was going to be spent on foreign aid already. I can't understand why so many RL fans are butthurt about foreign aid being spent on NRL? The AFL would kill for this and I can't imagine the Mexicans being as pissweak as some posters on this board. Don't look a gift horse in the month.
I don't know anything about afl.

I also didn't say anything negative or 'butt hurt' about the money being given to png.

I will say that anyone who thinks the WA government is going to bankroll a NRL team, as opposed to providing money for a coe, is living in cuckoo land.
 

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