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18th club, whose next?

Wb1234

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that $5m goes very quickly when you are spending $2-3m on junior development.

Doesn't leave you much to pay coaches etc after that, clubs are best placed to know all of this.
Any club that can’t manage to run their operations on that kind of funding is run by an idiot

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Who’s fronting up the $40-50mill for a hq, offices and centre of excellence?

and as for jnrs, they may have reasonable participation rates but they will still need $2.5-3mil or so a year for the elite pathway programs.
Warriors don’t have a coe

Juniors aren’t an issue for nz. 23 percent of all current nrl players come from nz

Many have said if christchurch had a team they wouldn’t have come to Australia to get a chance

Christchurch has two grounds that a Perth nrl side would kill to have and won’t have
 

Perth Red

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The other bids were all talk, imagine WA consortium had the WA government actually invested in them, not backing them with infrastructure only after/if they landed a licence
What do you mean? The wa govt has made a committment of $450mill spend if there is an nrl club in perth. They also paid the $1/2mill cost of the bid submission. What do you expect them to be offering before nrl has decide what they’ll do?
 

Perth Red

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Any club that can’t manage to run their operations on that kind of funding is run by an idiot

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Warriors don’t have a coe

Juniors aren’t an issue for nz. 23 percent of all current nrl players come from nz

Many have said if christchurch had a team they wouldn’t have come to Australia to get a chance

Christchurch has two grounds that a Perth nrl side would kill to have and won’t have
Must be one of the few clubs who don’t, why set up anew club without one and put them behind the others? Can the warriors not afford/ get govt support for one? Is that a red flag for Christchurch?

thats participation, they will need to fund elite jnr programs and a reserve grade side. in the region of $2.5-3mill a year.

your last point Has zero relevance to the conversation of what a christchurch club will need to fund to be successful, but good attempt at trolling.
 

Wb1234

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Must be one of the few clubs who don’t, why set up anew club without one and put them behind the others?

thats participation, they will need to fund elite jnr programs and a reserve grade side. in the region of $2.5-3mill a year.

your last point Has zero relevance to the conversation of what a christchurch club will need to fund to be successful, but good attempt at trolling.
They can fund the juniors from the five million surplus grant money loll

And unlike Perth which will struggle to produce any nrl players chch will produce them in spades

Your quoting the wa govt as spending 450 million as a positive for their bid

Nz governments have spent 500 million plus on those two stadia

Hbf park will never be able to compete with those two stadia

The benefits of new stadia are patently obvious and don’t need to be elaborated upon

And nz will help the nz tv deal (and Australia) and also international football

You can’t compare what a Perth nrl side will bring to the nrl vs nz2
 

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They can fund the juniors from the five million surplus grant money loll

And unlike Perth which will struggle to produce any nrl players chch will produce them in spades

Your quoting the wa govt as spending 450 million as a positive for their bid

Nz governments have spent 500 million plus on those two stadia

Hbf park will never be able to compete with those two stadia

The benefits of new stadia are patently obvious and don’t need to be elaborated upon

And nz will help the nz tv deal (and Australia) and also international football

You can’t compare what a Perth nrl side will bring to the nrl vs nz2
I’m not saying they can’t, but you said they won’t have to spend money developing jnrs which is clearly nonsense, they’ll have to pay the same as any other new club To run elite systems.

Difference is in wa we will get a cOfe, jnr participation funding and stadium upgrades. All Christchurch is getting is a nice stadium. They will have to at the least find CofE funding if they want to keep up with other clubs.

Australian tv pays over 90% of the tv deal and likely has no appetite for another low drawing nz club. skynz MAY pay more but considering they pay a small amount of the deal now is it even going to cover the extra costs?

and no one is comparing, beyond the conversation on govt support and if a club will be better off for having it. It doesn’t look like it’s WA or Christchurch so dck measuring is pointless.
 

Wb1234

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I’m not saying they can’t, but you said they won’t have to spend money developing jnrs which is clearly nonsense, they’ll have to pay the same as any other new club To run elite systems.

Difference is in wa we will get a cOfe, jnr participation funding and stadium upgrades. All Christchurch is getting is a nice stadium. They will have to at the least find CofE funding if they want to keep up with other clubs.

and no one is comparing, beyond the conversation on govt support and if a club will be better off for having it. It doesn’t look like it’s WA or Christchurch so dck measuring is pointless.
Hbf park isn’t on the same level as the stadium in Dunedin or chch

And their pool of juniors will be huge

And on govt support nz2 has more it’s just most of it has already been spent

Taking out stadium spending the wa govt isn’t contributing a lot to the bid 100 to 150 million
 

Perth Red

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Hbf park isn’t on the same level as the stadium in Dunedin or chch

And their pool of juniors will be huge

And on govt support nz2 has more it’s just most of it has already been spent

Taking out stadium spending the wa govt isn’t contributing a lot to the bid 100 to 150 million
Is that all lol
 

Trifili13

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Why should that be a concern of the NRL?



I love your outburst and crying as much as PR’s.
No crying from me. I have no vested interest whether Perth or any other team gets in. They can choose the Warialda Wombats for all I care. People on here will say the ARLC should set the bar high on who they admit and any team that joins should pay for the privilege, and fair enough. But to have every bid fall sort and only have PNG appearing acceptable as it's being bankrolled by Australian taxpayers is a bit embarrassing given its the most watched sport on Australian TV and most were feeling investors would be clamouring to join the rivers of money supposedly generated by clubs.
 

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They can fund the juniors from the five million surplus grant money loll

And unlike Perth which will struggle to produce any nrl players chch will produce them in spades

Your quoting the wa govt as spending 450 million as a positive for their bid

Nz governments have spent 500 million plus on those two stadia

Hbf park will never be able to compete with those two stadia

The benefits of new stadia are patently obvious and don’t need to be elaborated upon

And nz will help the nz tv deal (and Australia) and also international football

You can’t compare what a Perth nrl side will bring to the nrl vs nz2
The NZ government didn’t pay $500million for Foresyth Barr and Te Kaha stadiums.
Foresyth Barr got $15m from the govt the majority came from the Dunedin city council.
Large Chunk of the Te Kaha stadium also came from the council and a lot was from the Earthquake recovery fund, without the earthquake Jade Stadium would likely still be in use with at most a couple of upgrades.
The NZ govt doesn’t traditionally put too much towards sports projects, the only times in recent memory I recall them intervening is for the 2011 RWC and the Americas cup precinct. Even then they went for the cheap option of Eden park upgrade vs the more favoured (from the public) waterfront stadium that is still trying to get off the ground- it was a perfect opportunity to get the govt to pay for it but it didn’t happen, can’t see them stumping up for a sports team unfortunately
 

Perth Red

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Where is this figure from?
It’s actually nearer 30% now.

according to nrl 161 players in nrl where nz born.

Not surprising when you consider the ideal physical attributes of our game and the Maori and islander genetic build.


 

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It’s actually nearer 30% now.

according to nrl 161 players in nrl where nz born.

Not surprising when you consider the ideal physical attributes of our game and the Maori and islander genetic build.


Sure, but how many actually from the New Zealand systems?
 

Wb1234

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The NZ government didn’t pay $500million for Foresyth Barr and Te Kaha stadiums.
Foresyth Barr got $15m from the govt the majority came from the Dunedin city council.
Large Chunk of the Te Kaha stadium also came from the council and a lot was from the Earthquake recovery fund, without the earthquake Jade Stadium would likely still be in use with at most a couple of upgrades.
The NZ govt doesn’t traditionally put too much towards sports projects, the only times in recent memory I recall them intervening is for the 2011 RWC and the Americas cup precinct. Even then they went for the cheap option of Eden park upgrade vs the more favoured (from the public) waterfront stadium that is still trying to get off the ground- it was a perfect opportunity to get the govt to pay for it but it didn’t happen, can’t see them stumping up for a sports team unfortunately
Govt was meant to include any levels of govt
 

Wb1234

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It’s actually nearer 30% now.

according to nrl 161 players in nrl where nz born.

Not surprising when you consider the ideal physical attributes of our game and the Maori and islander genetic build.


Wow maybe 2 nz nrl sides isn’t enough

Imagine how high that percentage will be with chch in
 

Wb1234

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With the bulk developed in Australian schools because the local leagues aren’t near the same standard…
Pretty sure it was isaako who said he was from the South Island and came to Australia because he had a better chance of making it

Not sure where that blonde kiwi forward the cowboys got is from but he moved over too

Even Benji Marshall was scouted from nz and put at keebra park high by the Tigers

Literally a lack of opportunity in nz with only one nrl side
 

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The NZ government didn’t pay $500million for Foresyth Barr and Te Kaha stadiums.
Foresyth Barr got $15m from the govt the majority came from the Dunedin city council.
Large Chunk of the Te Kaha stadium also came from the council and a lot was from the Earthquake recovery fund, without the earthquake Jade Stadium would likely still be in use with at most a couple of upgrades.
The NZ govt doesn’t traditionally put too much towards sports projects, the only times in recent memory I recall them intervening is for the 2011 RWC and the Americas cup precinct. Even then they went for the cheap option of Eden park upgrade vs the more favoured (from the public) waterfront stadium that is still trying to get off the ground- it was a perfect opportunity to get the govt to pay for it but it didn’t happen, can’t see them stumping up for a sports team unfortunately
Not to mention that not even 1c of spending on these stadiums was for Rugby League.
 

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