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1st Chappell/Hadlee Trophy Match AUS v NZ @ WACA

shiznit

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and the first CH series.... 1-1 it finished... and both games were thrillers... in Melbourne NZ won... i remember Sinclairs catch to get rid of Hayden... Gilly going to town on Butler... and McCullums freaky shot at the end.

the game in sydney when australia won... i remember the game looked like being over and mills hit a heap of sixes to bring NZ back into it... and Harry ended up coming out with a dislocated shoulder and he got a beamer from Lee first ball i think...

theres been afew good ones in this CH history...
 

shiznit

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That's exactly right.

Ever since that series everyone, commentators included, continually harp on about how NZ always lift against Australia in the one-day game.

Quite funny really.
yeah i agree... we really need to take a big step now...

i mean weve been beating the minnows(BAN & ENG) home and away for the last 12 months.... its great to finally be playing ODI cricket against some good quality sides...
 
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It`s true in the sense that this is the match-up the hapless Black Caps are always extra motivated for, I think this is what most people mean that they lift against Australia. But this extra desire only occasionally gets transformed into winning performances, might even be a disadvantage and make the players less relaxed.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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The CH series I remember the most was the one where Lee absolutely destroyed us in game one, Australia then come out and score 320 odd runs in the first innings of the following game and NZ fell just a couple runs short after being in a very strong winning position, and then the following game Australia scored 330 odd batting first only for NZ to chase it down and set what was then a world record chase.

There's no doubt that the 2001/2002 test and OD series is what created the Nz always lifting against Australia. The stats don't back it up, but there's been enough games (including losing efforts) since then for people to continue saying it, especially when it comes to the CH series.

The 2003 WC is another one where Bond destroyed the Aussie top order only for the Aussie tail to wag and then our batsmen got slaughtered, but it was enough to bring the "lift" arguement into play.
 

JB

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Perhaps it might be more accurate in saying Bond always "lifted" playing Aussie.
 

hineyrulz

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Well this is the Kiwi's biggest chance to beat us at home in a long time, our bowling bar Bracks is ordinary and our batsman are in poor form.
 

gong_eagle

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Defeated Australia given immediate chance to regain confidence
Peter English
January 31, 2009

Match facts
Sunday, February 1
Start time 1.30pm (04.30 GMT)
The Big Picture
Australia lost the No. 1 ranking in one-day internationals on Friday night in Perth but have no time to mope about their summer of demotion. The crammed itinerary says that two days after finishing a five-game series against South Africa they must start another against New Zealand. Daniel Vettori's team is the only one Australia have been able to beat comfortably since going to India, so there should be some relief on the way. In two Tests in November Australia outplayed their rivals, but the gap usually narrows for 50-over contests. Officially Australia are now No. 2 - a win on Sunday will push them back to first - while New Zealand are fourth, but guessing where the hosts really fit is as tricky as working out why the local middle order has been so unproductive at crucial times. The 4-1 defeat is so unfamiliar at home and Ricky Ponting's men are determined to hit back quickly.
While there is no better time for New Zealand to challenge Australia, their team is also undergoing a serious redevelopment under the new coach Andy Moles. They came from a game behind to beat West Indies in January, but lost their warm-up in Canberra to the Prime Minister's XI.

ODI form guide
Australia - LLLWL
New Zealand - WNWLN

Team news
Shaun Tait should come back after being rested and could be a handful for the visiting batsmen, who won't have much chance to adjust to the conditions. Tait experienced some cramps in Adelaide but is not suffering from the hamstring problems that have hampered him at times during the season. Michael Clarke failed on his return from a thumb injury, but the middle looks much stronger with the vice-captain in it.
Australia (probable) 1 Shaun Marsh, 2 David Warner, 3 Ricky Ponting (capt), 4 Michael Clarke, 5 Michael Hussey, 6 David Hussey, 7 Brad Haddin (wk), 8 James Hopes, 9 Mitchell Johnson, 10 Nathan Bracken, 11 Shaun Tait.
Brendon McCullum's hip is the big worry for the visitors, even though it won't keep him out of the match. McCullum, who scored a century in Canberra on Thursday, was unable to take the gloves in that game, but Vettori is confident. "I'm not allowing him any other option," Vettori told NZPA. "We need him to keep to provide us with as many options as possible." Gareth Hopkins, the back-up gloveman, is on standby and New Zealand need a replacement for Jesse Ryder, who is out for a week with a shoulder problem. Kyle Mills will probably bat at No. 7 and Vettori has spoken of playing two spinners.
New Zealand (possible) 1 Brendon McCullum, 2 Martin Guptill, 3 Peter Fulton, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Neil Broom, 6 Grant Elliott, 7 Kyle Mills, 8 Tim Southee, 9 Daniel Vettori (capt), 10 Jeetan Patel, 11 Iain O'Brien.
Watch out for ...
Michael Hussey showed a return to form in Perth after a disappointing season and Australia want him to purr following their mid-innings struggles. His 78 was carefully planned, coming from 96 balls, but his team needed some substance after a horror start. If he can find regular meaningful support it will strengthen Australia's core significantly. Daniel Vettori is always a menace for Australia and they have already shown this summer that they struggle with tight, controlled slow bowling. Johan Botha posed regular problems during the South Africa series and Vettori should do the same. In 46 matches against Australia he limits his runs to 4.21 an over, which is an excellent return considering the batsmen involved in previous years, and averages slightly less than a wicket a match.

Pitch & conditions
The pitch was quite lively on Friday and while the bowlers had some fun it was the batsman who benefitted most from the true surface. It shouldn't change too much in a couple of days so more high scores can be expected. There is a chance of a thunderstorm on Sunday and the temperature is expected to reach 35C.
Stats and trivia

  • In 11 Chappell-Hadlee Series games both sides have five wins each, with one no-result
  • Ricky Ponting leads the run-list in Australia-New Zealand contests with 1756 and Brendon McCullum is the best of the current touring squad with 669
  • Australia have three wins at the WACA against their Trans-Tasman rivals, who had their sole victory against the hosts there in 1988
  • It is the first time the series will be contested over five games

Quotes
"I know that there's a lot of negativity going around about the way we've played and that's fair enough because some of our performances in the last couple of games have been pretty ordinary."
Ricky Ponting "I'd rather be involved in the series just as a batter than not play at all."
Brendon McCullum
Peter English is the Australasia editor of Cricinfo
© Cricinfo
 

aussies1st

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Should just move Hopes into Dussey spot, and keep Hilfy in the side. Too harsh to drop him after his performance and Dussey ain't doing much with his starts.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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If that (possible) Kiwi team is the one that takes the field we might as well forfeit. Whenever NZ has beaten Australia its come on the back of a batting line up that has depth, providing a flourish at the end.

That batting line up is shocking. Broom has talent, but is still unproven, Elliot is going to end up as the Cameron White of NZ cricket. Not good enough to warrant a place on bat or ball alone, but does both so gets a free ride, and then Mills is at 7.

Very very vulnerable batting line up, and it's rare that NZ's top 4 do the bulk of the scoring against Australia, especially considering how hit and miss McCullum is and Fulton has hardly set the world on fire recently.

Australia has been vulnerable with the bat recently, but it's not going to matter if NZ can't get more than 200.
 

African Monkey

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If that (possible) Kiwi team is the one that takes the field we might as well forfeit. Whenever NZ has beaten Australia its come on the back of a batting line up that has depth, providing a flourish at the end.

That batting line up is shocking. Broom has talent, but is still unproven, Elliot is going to end up as the Cameron White of NZ cricket. Not good enough to warrant a place on bat or ball alone, but does both so gets a free ride, and then Mills is at 7.

Very very vulnerable batting line up, and it's rare that NZ's top 4 do the bulk of the scoring against Australia, especially considering how hit and miss McCullum is and Fulton has hardly set the world on fire recently.

Australia has been vulnerable with the bat recently, but it's not going to matter if NZ can't get more than 200.
Disagree with you on Grant Elliot. He isn't a bad ODI batsman who can tick the strike over at a good rate and if anything, he should be used more at the bowling crease.
 
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New Zealand (possible) 1 Brendon McCullum, 2 Martin Guptill, 3 Peter Fulton, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Neil Broom, 6 Grant Elliott, 7 Kyle Mills, 8 Tim Southee, 9 Daniel Vettori (capt), 10 Jeetan Patel, 11 Iain O'Brien.

sh*t - that team is weak. Elliot should NEVER bat higher than 6, and Mills never higher than 8.

We'll get taught a lesson today. Would of been a hell of a lot stronger with oram and ryder there:

1 Brendon McCullum, 2 Jesse Ryder, 3 Martin Guptill, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Peter Fulton, 6 Neil Broom, 7 Jacob Oram, 8 Kyle Mills, 9 Daniel Vettori (capt), 10 Tim Southee, 11 Jeetan Patel,

I hold better hopes for the 2nd one dayer with the return of Ryder.

This series has hit with both teams at a serious cross roads, unfortunately the main difference is Aussie have a bigger pool of genuine talent to choose to take the new ball. O'Brien is a mistake for NZ, Southee is out of form, Fulton has been out for a long time, Guptill and Broom are only new, Elliot is a tradesman. We are AT LEAST 12 months away from hitting our straps.

Aussie 4 - 1
 

ozbash

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dont agree with you reecey, with the exception of an out of form P Fulton, I reckon we got a show.

plus, aussie are crap.
 
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If that (possible) Kiwi team is the one that takes the field we might as well forfeit. Whenever NZ has beaten Australia its come on the back of a batting line up that has depth, providing a flourish at the end.

not to mention playing in new zealand cricket grounds smaller than the ones found in sydney park cricket
 
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The CH series I remember the most was the one where Lee absolutely destroyed us in game one, Australia then come out and score 320 odd runs in the first innings of the following game and NZ fell just a couple runs short after being in a very strong winning position, and then the following game Australia scored 330 odd batting first only for NZ to chase it down and set what was then a world record chase.

I remember that series. Game 2 was an absolute cracker. McCullum looked like he had brought it home for NZ, pushes the ball to Clarke at point and BAM! Pup throws the stumps down and Australia win it.
 

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