1st Test: Australia v Sri Lanka at Hobart Dec 14-18, 2012

[BunniesMan]

@ people arguing this isnt a bowlers pitch. There's been uneven bounce all day, if we bowled well we could exploit it. Only Siddle has done that consistently.

A 45 year old playing test cricket in 2014. You know Aussie cricket would be at its least ebb.

Where does Australia go from there?

I can't see Warne being able to last 5 hours let alone 5 days.

Firstly, his last test would finish on the 6th of January 2014. He'd be 44 and 3 months then.

And I'm not really thinking long term. The back to back Ashes is what the last 3 or 4 years have been aimed towards. If he can do more than Lyon to help us win at least 1 of those series then he should be asked to play.

As for how much he could last. Obvious I'm not expecting a Warne in his prime. He won't be bowling the 40+ over innings he could do back in the day. But if he could offer us 20 more effective overs per innings than Lyon, he should be our man.

And about where Australia goes from there, well that gives Australias up and coming spinners another 12-18 months of development. Hopefully by then something that looks like a long term option would be around.

But for now it's not about the long term. It's about 10 Ashes tests. And Warne, even at the age of 43, is still our best chance at success in terms of a spinner in our attack.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Why is Lyon not a long term option? He only just turned 25 ffs. He has 10 years in front of him to mature and hone in his game. Persevere with him. With Warne it isn't just about bowling, catching and fielding come into play. Batting and running between wickets etc.

 

[WarriorsFan4Life]

Hey guys, is it ok if I agree with Bunniesmans last post?...

 

[abpanther]

Man our bowlers are getting slapped around at the moment, this first innings lead could dwindle away quite quickly with these two at the crease

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Dilshan on track to score a hundred on an obvious bowlers pitch. If he gets it it will be the greatest knock in test history on an absolute minefield.

 

[BunniesMan]

How clever is Hughesy. Senses that Dilshan is nervous close to his 100 and was clever to ask the umpire to take a look at the ball. Just delayed it for a few seconds just to make Dilshan sweat a little more. Showed excellent cricket instinct for the moment. You can tell he has cricket IQ.

 

[Canard]

@ people arguing this isnt a bowlers pitch. There's been uneven bounce all day, if we bowled well we could exploit it. Only Siddle has done that consistently.


Firstly, his last test would finish on the 6th of January 2014. He'd be 44 and 3 months then.

And I'm not really thinking long term. The back to back Ashes is what the last 3 or 4 years have been aimed towards. If he can do more than Lyon to help us win at least 1 of those series then he should be asked to play.

As for how much he could last. Obvious I'm not expecting a Warne in his prime. He won't be bowling the 40+ over innings he could do back in the day. But if he could offer us 20 more effective overs per innings than Lyon, he should be our man.

And about where Australia goes from there, well that gives Australias up and coming spinners another 12-18 months of development. Hopefully by then something that looks like a long term option would be around.

But for now it's not about the long term. It's about 10 Ashes tests. And Warne, even at the age of 43, is still our best chance at success in terms of a spinner in our attack.

It would be a massive embarrassment for Australian cricket and a huge boost for England.

But beyond that I don't think Warne is physically up to it.

 

[BunniesMan]

Why is Lyon not a long term option? He only just turned 25 ffs. He has 10 years in front of him to mature and hone in his game. Persevere with him. With Warne it isn't just about bowling, catching and fielding come into play. Batting and running between wickets etc.

Maybe because he's hopelessly mediocre?

Yes he's good enough not to get smashed most days but we need a spinner than will win us a test in the balance on the 5th day. Lyon isn't that and never will be that.

Hey guys, is it ok if I agree with Bunniesmans last post?...

Yes! A few people on here disagree with me when they actually disagree and then they still disagree for the sake of disagreeing even when they know I'm right. Feel free to agree and disagree with my posts as you wish and don't let the village idiots (cough*AG*cough) tell you otherwise.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

How clever is Hughesy. Senses that Dilshan is nervous close to his 100 and was clever to ask the umpire to take a look at the ball. Just delayed it for a few seconds just to make Dilshan sweat a little more. Showed excellent cricket instinct for the moment. You can tell he has cricket IQ.

Yep. No one in test history has tried that.

 

[BunniesMan]

It would be a massive embarrassment for Australian cricket and a huge boost for England.

But beyond that I don't think Warne is physically up to it.

Would it be an embarrassment if he gets 30 wickets at 25 and helps us win?

 

[Horrie Is God]

Siddle looks like he is getting a bit of reverse swing this over..

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Maybe because he's hopelessly mediocre?

Yes he's good enough not to get smashed most days but we need a spinner than will win us a test in the balance on the 5th day. Lyon isn't that and never will be that.

Yes! A few people on here disagree with me when they actually disagree and then they still disagree for the sake of disagreeing even when they know I'm right. Feel free to agree and disagree with my posts as you wish and don't let the village idiots (cough*AG*cough) tell you otherwise.

You know nothing about cricket. Your opinions have the insight of a ten year old who has just discovered the game.

 

[BunniesMan]

Siddle has been easily our best all day.

I'm a big fan of the BVV (Big Victorian Vegan).

 

[hineyrulz]

How clever is Hughesy. Senses that Dilshan is nervous close to his 100 and was clever to ask the umpire to take a look at the ball. Just delayed it for a few seconds just to make Dilshan sweat a little more. Showed excellent cricket instinct for the moment. You can tell he has cricket IQ.

oh do STFU!!

We have bowled crap but this is hardly a bowlers pitch. By day 4 it will be a different story.

 

[Canard]

The only egos that believes that would happen is yours and Warneys

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Maybe because he's hopelessly mediocre?

Yes he's good enough not to get smashed most days but we need a spinner than will win us a test in the balance on the 5th day. Lyon isn't that and never will be that.

So for a hopeless mediocre off spinner he fluked his way to being the quickest off spinner to reach his current wicket tally in Australian test history? Against sides like India and South Africa. He is young, give him his time to mature as a bowler.

You have a fetish with throwing playiers out just because they don't suit you. If you were captain we'd never win a series because your cricketing brain is made of mashed banana mate.

Warne is a legend, leave him as a legend. Not someone who will tarnish his reputation. If England are dominating India's spinner in India on spinning decks doctored to suit them, do you really give Warne, someone who hasn't bowled more than 4 overs a game (a novelty game) much chance on English pitches? Use your brain mate. This isn't the England of the 90's we're talking about, this is an English team who have won 3 of the last 4 Ashes.

Warne would need to play the shield out then play county cricket just before the ashes start, to have any chance and he won't. So what then? He magically walks into the team? Where by the stage he wouldn't have played test cricket in close to 7 years?

 

[BunniesMan]

f**k this rain looks heavy. Hopefully it doesn't last long.

So for a hopeless mediocre off spinner he fluked his way to being the quickest off spinner to reach his current wicket tally in Australian test history? Against sides like India and South Africa. He is young, give him his time to mature as a bowler.

You have a fetish with throwing playiers out just because they don't suit you. If you were captain we'd never win a series because your cricketing brain is made of mashed banana mate.

Warne is a legend, leave him as a legend. Not someone who will tarnish his reputation. If England are dominating India's spinner in India on spinning decks doctored to suit them, do you really give Warne, someone who hasn't bowled more than 4 overs a game (a novelty game) much chance on English pitches? Use your brain mate. This isn't the England of the 90's we're talking about, this is an English team who have won 3 of the last 4 Ashes.

Warne would need to play the shield out then play county cricket just before the ashes start, to have any chance and he won't. So what then? He magically walks into the team? Where by the stage he wouldn't have played test cricket in close to 7 years?

Let's get a couple of your misconceptions corrected.

Firstly, I obviously know this is a better English team than the 90s. I'm not expecting him to dominate in the same way he did. I just expect him to do more than Lyon would.

Secondly, about him playing Shield. Obviously it goes without saying I expect him to do that. He said he'll make a decision after Big Bash. If at that point he decides he wants to give it a go obviously he goes and plays the second half of the Shield season. It would be good for shield cricket in creating more interest in it and it would show us what he has to offer in 1st class cricket.

If he does well enough we pick him for the tests in India. Playing on their turners against declining batsmen would be the ideal warm up.

I want him playing in the Ashes, but nowhere am I arguing for him to get there without any 1st class prep. Clarke said as much, and Warne knows if he wants to play in the Ashes he'll have to commit to the remainder of the shield season.

 

[Twizzle]

I hope this isn't Adelaide all over again

geez our bowlers are made of plastic

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Rain. A fine century by Dilshan on an absolute minefield of a pitch roll.

SL need these two to bat out most of the day because although solid Jawardene the keeper is not the best keeper/batsman going around (although probably the best keeper in world cricket).

Australia still on top for mine.

 

[BunniesMan]

Ranatunga only made 4 centuries in 93 tests and averaged 30 odd. Fat f**k only got those games because he was politically connected. Loved Heals giving him the shits with his banter in the 90s.