20-40 rule under consideration

[beave]

No they are different. How likely is it you’ll kick it dead or touch in goal compared to a 40-20?

You’re also more free to belt it as hard as you like and get it to run

How many attempted 40-20’s have gone dead in goal though? Not many players have a boot that big even with a decent bounce.

 

[LineBall]

the best time to try one would probably be from a 20m tap with the defense scrambling to get back. It would be a pretty exciting play. Much better than 4 hit ups.

Edit: if you kick one from a 7 tackle set tap you should get a 7 tackle set from the ensuing tap, but if you fail the opposition should get the 7 tackles.

Only if it happens on the 7th, 17th or 27th of each month, or in the 7th or 77th minute of each game.

 

[unforgiven]

the best time to try one would probably be from a 20m tap with the defense scrambling to get back. It would be a pretty exciting play. Much better than 4 hit ups.

Edit: if you kick one from a 7 tackle set tap you should get a 7 tackle set from the ensuing tap, but if you fail the opposition should get the 7 tackles.

For someone who is actually up in arms about the rules of the game constantly, you do know that the 20m restart is optional restart? The player taking the tap already has the option of kicking for touch and getting the feed and it doesn't matter where they find touch. So I really doubt anyone will try an 20/40 from a 20m restart?

• A team that finds touch with a kick from a 20-metre optional restart is awarded the loose head and feed at the scrum

 

[T-Boon]

For someone who is actually up in arms about the rules of the game constantly, you do know that the 20m restart is optional restart? The player taking the tap already has the option of kicking for touch and getting the feed and it doesn't matter where they find touch. So I really doubt anyone will try an 20/40 from a 20m restart?

• A team that finds touch with a kick from a 20-metre optional restart is awarded the loose head and feed at the scrum

Thats crazy, I had assumed they got rid of that rule years ago. Has anyone attempted that in living memory? Are coaches spastic for not using it?

 

[unforgiven]

Thats crazy, I had assumed they got rid of that rule years ago. Has anyone attempted that in living memory? Are coaches spastic for not using it?

Yes it is still in the rules, I seemed to remember players trying it a few years ago. Robbie Farah come to mind. No one will forget the famous Brett Finch attempt when he player for Canberra against Newcastle.

 

[GongPanther]

Why do we get these random rules pop up that no one ever asks for? Like 7 tackle sets from 20m taps.

To be an advantage for those coaches who want implement it?

 

[Saxon]

Why do we get these random rules pop up that no one ever asks for? Like 7 tackle sets from 20m taps.

The original concept behind the seven tackle set was to discourage teams to stop kicking the ball dead so that great broken field fullbacks like Slater couldn't bring it back.
The idea itself was a good one, but the NRL (in their own inimitable style) f**ked it up by making it apply to any kick that went dead in the in-goal.
So now we get brilliant plays that didn't quite work - a little stab in behind that dribbled a couple of inches too far, or a desperate dive to score where the ball bobble - punished harshly.

 

[Front-Rower]

Yes, the 7 tackle rule needs to be re-worked way before this stupid rule ever sees the light of day.

 

[Springs09]

Thats crazy, I had assumed they got rid of that rule years ago. Has anyone attempted that in living memory? Are coaches spastic for not using it?

No, no one attempts that now because you get 7 tackles from tapping it. More often than not you end up in at least the opponent's 30 anyway.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

I remember a titans game a few seasons ago against Melbourne I think mat Rogers actually asked the ref what happens if he kicks it dead on the full on the last and it was still a 20m tap so to take slater out of the game and make sure it went the distance he punted it dead on the full about half a dozen times

 

[Springs09]

I remember a titans game a few seasons ago against Melbourne I think mat Rogers actually asked the ref what happens if he kicks it dead on the full on the last and it was still a 20m tap so to take slater out of the game and make sure it went the distance he punted it dead on the full about half a dozen times

The obvious solution to that problem is to make kicking it dead on the full the same as kicking it out on the full - turnover where you kicked it from (unless its within the 20, then 20m tap as usual).

 

[thorson1987]

The obvious solution to that problem is to make kicking it dead on the full the same as kicking it out on the full - turnover where you kicked it from (unless its within the 20, then 20m tap as usual).

I was pretty sure that already was the case, although I haven't refereed in 15 years.

 

[Springs09]

I was pretty sure that already was the case, although I haven't refereed in 15 years.

It's not. 20m tap.

 

[Albert Rosenfeld]

This new rule would be tailor made for Cooper Cronk and Shaun Johnson.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

This new rule would be tailor made for Cooper Cronk and Shaun Johnson.

What about premiership winning #7 Mitch Aubusson?

 

[Knight76]

Any team that has finished their set inside their own 20 has had a crap set of getting monstered.

I can't see any player getting a 20-40 at the end of such a set. Fullbacks and wingers are generally back ready anyhow, less time to kick it as generally when your pined in the 20 by the end of a set it has been 1 pass from the ruck runs and getting belted back.

Stupid rule anyway as it penalises the team for putting on a good defensive set. Maybe they are trying to allow teams who concede repeat points to have a chance at clearing and getting themselves a breather.

 

[unforgiven]

Any team that has finished their set inside their own 20 has had a crap set of getting monstered.

I can't see any player getting a 20-40 at the end of such a set. Fullbacks and wingers are generally back ready anyhow, less time to kick it as generally when your pined in the 20 by the end of a set it has been 1 pass from the ruck runs and getting belted back.

Stupid rule anyway as it penalises the team for putting on a good defensive set. Maybe they are trying to allow teams who concede repeat points to have a chance at clearing and getting themselves a breather.

I can't see any getting kicked at all.

 

[kdalymc]

Brett Finch attempt when he player for Canberra against Newcastle.

wasnt that a drop kick?

 

[Canard]

Any team that has finished their set inside their own 20 has had a crap set of getting monstered.

I can't see any player getting a 20-40 at the end of such a set. Fullbacks and wingers are generally back ready anyhow, less time to kick it as generally when your pined in the 20 by the end of a set it has been 1 pass from the ruck runs and getting belted back.

Stupid rule anyway as it penalises the team for putting on a good defensive set. Maybe they are trying to allow teams who concede repeat points to have a chance at clearing and getting themselves a breather.

Isn't part of any good "defence" limiting the kicker's time and options? No point muscling up in defence if you concede a 70m kick.

In reality though it's bloody hard to get a kick away pinned down on your own line.

 

[Canard]

wasnt that a drop kick?

It was an optional restart from the 20m, if I recall correctly.