20 team comp with talent coming from the US

[Perth Red]

With all due respect you’re hammering on about college football but what’s your level of knowledge of college football beyond that it exists and there are great athletes in that realm?
Many college football players have transitioned to other sports like MMA with little to no fanfare, similarly Mason Cox was a D1 basketball player at a major school in Oklahoma state and has become a relatively big name in the AFL, how many people in Oklahoma do you think even know what AFL is?
In terms of athletic ability what you’re looking for are guys who are over 6ft, 95kg and can run under 4.6 seconds in the 40 as a starting point in terms of athletic profile, without counting exactly the numbers I’d estimate there’d be less than 40 guys who would fit that criteria out of this years draft prospects, 259 players are going to get drafted this year and I’d say around 150 more will be signed as undrafted free agents so anyone who fits your ideal athletic profile is going to find their way on to a NFL roster

Throw in being able to make 30 tackles a game and stay on the field for 80mins and the pickings get even slimmer.
I mean if the NRL was serious, and I mean really serious, it would cost a fortune and would best be achieved by having a college RL program that funded twenty or so colleges to run RL programs, scout high school football kids best suited to RL and put them through that program. That MIGHT produce some NRL talent in years to come.

Or fund the American RL comp to be semi pro (pick one lol) to attract players and have scouting across that comp.

Either way youre going to be spending tens of millions for probably little return.
Meanwhile WA has to close down its elite U19's program due to funding cuts from NRL and NZRL has to get by with no funds to increase on the 6 schools that play RL in the country! sigh.

 

[Gobsmacked]

With all due respect you’re hammering on about college football but what’s your level of knowledge of college football beyond that it exists and there are great athletes in that realm?
Many college football players have transitioned to other sports like MMA with little to no fanfare, similarly Mason Cox was a D1 basketball player at a major school in Oklahoma state and has become a relatively big name in the AFL, how many people in Oklahoma do you think even know what AFL is?
In terms of athletic ability what you’re looking for are guys who are over 6ft, 95kg and can run under 4.6 seconds in the 40 as a starting point in terms of athletic profile, without counting exactly the numbers I’d estimate there’d be less than 40 guys who would fit that criteria out of this years draft prospects, 259 players are going to get drafted this year and I’d say around 150 more will be signed as undrafted free agents so anyone who fits your ideal athletic profile is going to find their way on to a NFL roster

Firstly, you're setting this criteria..not me. I've never stated anything of the sort. It doesn't matter what shape or size they are as is the beauty of RL.
You hold open trials , some guys ( probably more than you think) are more suitable to rl.. hence why exactly they didn't get picked up by the NFL.

Heck there might be 0... 0!
It also might be 100..

The fact is out a country of 320 million ..
Just maybe there might be some guys who can apply their talents here.

Why people are arguing that it shouldn't be explored is beyond me.
But they're the same people who say a lot of dumb shit

I've failed a lot in my life but that's only because a try a lot.
The mentality here is we won't fail if we don't try...

 

[docbrown]

I don't think you realise the opportunity for the people in the US.. They will have another option then a simple existence like a shoe salesman

Hey, he did score four touchdowns in the city championship game. Could have gone pro if it weren’t for his bum knee.

 

[aqua_duck]

Firstly, you're setting this criteria..not me. I've never stated anything of the sort. It doesn't matter what shape or size they are as is the beauty of RL.
You hold open trials , some guys ( probably more than you think) are more suitable to rl.. hence why exactly they didn't get picked up by the NFL.

Heck there might be 0... 0!
It also might be 100..

The fact is out a country of 320 million ..
Just maybe there might be some guys who can apply their talents here.

Why people are arguing that it shouldn't be explored is beyond me.
But they're the same people who say a lot of dumb shit

I've failed a lot in my life but that's only because a try a lot.
The mentality here is we won't fail if we don't try...

so if you’re not testing these guys on athletic potential what else are you testing at this trial? The ability to throw a cut out pass? The ability to kick a 40/20? Ability to run a good line?
The lure of these guys isn’t that they’re good rugby league players, it’s that they’re good athletes who might turn into good rugby league players so what else would you test for at these trials but athletic ability no?
The idea deserves discussion for sure but you’re trying to form an argument having done none of the research.

 

[Perth Red]

so if you’re not testing these guys on athletic potential what else are you testing at this trial? The ability to throw a cut out pass? The ability to kick a 40/20? Ability to run a good line?
The lure of these guys isn’t that they’re good rugby league players, it’s that they’re good athletes who might turn into good rugby league players so what else would you test for at these trials but athletic ability no?
The idea deserves discussion for sure but you’re trying to form an argument having done none of the research.

no we should try it, after all how will we know otherwise lol. Its almost like college football hasnt been around for the same length as RL and that there has never been any cross over, and that's just because no one has ever scouted there.

 

[Gobsmacked]

so if you’re not testing these guys on athletic potential what else are you testing at this trial? The ability to throw a cut out pass? The ability to kick a 40/20? Ability to run a good line?
The lure of these guys isn’t that they’re good rugby league players, it’s that they’re good athletes who might turn into good rugby league players so what else would you test for at these trials but athletic ability no?
The idea deserves discussion for sure but you’re trying to form an argument having done none of the research.

80% of our sport is about evasion. The ability to physically overpower your opponent or evade them or defend against such attributes.
Hold some training camps and play some trials..overlay what you know of their tests ex : beep test, sprints and strength ect..
Not rocket science.

 

[aqua_duck]

80% of our sport is about evasion. The ability to physically overpower your opponent or evade them or defend against such attributes.
Hold some training camps and play some trials..overlay what you know of their tests ex : beep test, sprints and strength ect..
Not rocket science.

So you’re looking at pretty much what they test for at the combine in terms of height, weight, speed, agility and explosiveness. The issue with this is anyone with half decent numbers in those areas is getting a shot in the NFL. As for playing trials, how do you think a trial match will look with 34 guys who know nothing about rugby league?

 

[Perth Red]

So you’re looking at pretty much what they test for at the combine in terms of height, weight, speed, agility and explosiveness. The issue with this is anyone with half decent numbers in those areas is getting a shot in the NFL. As for playing trials, how do you think a trial match will look with 34 guys who know nothing about rugby league?

Like a game of rugby union?

 

[Gobsmacked]

So you’re looking at pretty much what they test for at the combine in terms of height, weight, speed, agility and explosiveness. The issue with this is anyone with half decent numbers in those areas is getting a shot in the NFL. As for playing trials, how do you think a trial match will look with 34 guys who know nothing about rugby league?

So you didn't read my post? or you deliberately misquoted me?
I can't argue a case that I never made

 

[aqua_duck]

So you didn't read my post? or you deliberately misquoted me?
I can't argue a case that I never made

Again it goes back to my original point, all you can test are height, weight, speed, agility and explosiveness which are things they test at the combine. Out of any draft class the best 300 prospects/athletes will be on a NFL roster, the guys outside that aren’t going to be super athletes.
This goes back to the fact you haven’t bothered to do an ounce of research into college football or NFL, the NFL is filled with super athletes but the level of athleticism in college is much, much lower especially outside the SEC, Big 10 and Big 12

 

[Gobsmacked]

Again it goes back to my original point, all you can test are height, weight, speed, agility and explosiveness which are things they test at the combine. Out of any draft class the best 300 prospects/athletes will be on a NFL roster, the guys outside that aren’t going to be super athletes.
This goes back to the fact you haven’t bothered to do an ounce of research into college football or NFL, the NFL is filled with super athletes but the level of athleticism in college is much, much lower especially outside the SEC, Big 10 and Big 12

if you can't read... you go on ignore

 

[Gobsmacked]

Thought I'd Leave this here..

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-planning-biggest-event-in-rugby-league-history-in-las-vegas/news-story/b02fc95299a518f14c3cc6cd167fda11?utm_campaign=EditorialSB&utm_source=news.com.au%20Sport&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=SocialBakers

 

[Wb1234]

There’s also the proposed salary cap exemptions for American college players

yet some of the forum expert laughed at the idea the nrl could attract American players

 

[Gobsmacked]

There’s also the proposed salary cap exemptions for American college players

yet some of the forum expert laughed at the idea the nrl could attract American players

P V'Landys is the man. A true visionary , not afraid to act .
I only wish we had him sooner.

 

[Wb1234]

P V'Landys is the man. A true visionary , not afraid to act .
I only wish we had him sooner.

Just hope he hangs around long enough to do 20 teams

 

[Perth Red]

Lol, he’s off on another American junket, probably to try and tie up some nsw racing betting deals.
Yeh visionary. Remember when he and Abdo went over there to talk to streaming companies then Signed the shttest deal ever with fox?

a one off game in Vegas is sure to get American kids flocking to play rugba league, afl and China springs to mind Lol.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Lol, he’s off on another American junket, probably to try and tie up some nsw racing betting deals.
Yeh visionary. Remember when he and Abdo went over there to talk to streaming companies then Signed the shttest deal ever with fox?

a one off game in Vegas is sure to get American kids flocking to play rugba league, afl and China springs to mind Lol.

Are you on dope or something? What are you talking about?
Lol this and lol that. Did you just discover lol?

It's a legitimate probability of happening and a gread idea in what I understand is 1 of the best stadiums in the world. Las vagas is an international city, having an event there gives the game added prestige.
And where did anyone claim kids in America will pick up the sport because of the fixture?..
The idea was to bring over some athletes who miss out through their systems. This is one of many small steps to create that awareness.
All journeys are started with 1 step.

If Perth has a double header = the game is on fire in Perth and we are going to get our own team.
Taking a double header to the states = the dumbest idea ever lol lol

Your contradictions no no bounds.

You're against the idea of Rugby league growing anywhere except Perth.
I see now what the game is up against in the north of England

 

[Canard]

There’s also the proposed salary cap exemptions for American college players

yet some of the forum expert laughed at the idea the nrl could attract American players

I'm still laughing because it's complete horeshit.

You are easily impressed by bold talk with no action.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I'm still laughing because it's complete horeshit.

You are easily impressed by bold talk with no action.

P V'Landys is far from no action pal.
If he said it, it's probably happening.

 

[luco1450]

So let's unpack your latest optimism.
Firstly they aren't 1000 to 1. These are premium athletes at their physical peak in the best training facilities in the world, at the cutting edge of sport science .
Our 2 biggest stars went there just to tap into their science around recovery.
These are the biggest, fastest, most agile, strongest... the best f**king athletes in the world! You think..1000 to 1
And 1 to 2 years? ... yeah ! Outside of 6 and 7 what makes our game so good is it isn't complicated!!!
An already pro athlete learning 1 one the most basic sports is easy!
They play 1 of the most complicated, they will find it easy.

The next thing is, it isn't just players he's talking about. A couple of players that made a small impact at a college level trying their hands down under at a collision sports will spark interest from fans and broadcasters in the US .
Do you remember how many Australians turned in to watch Hayne?? Btm making the switch the other way- more complicated sport... at a later age .. and making it to the NFL.
Thank god we have PVD , otherwise we'd be stuck with some narrow minded Muppet.

How many Aussies tuned in to watch Hayne fail by the way. I'm curious. I watched him in the trial games not because he was in it but because i watch NFL and he was never going to make it and only got to play a couple of games before being flicked because of injury.