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2007 Season in Review

drake

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Good article Willow.

I would have been far less verbose and summed our season 2007 up in three letters;

poo
 

God-King Dean

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Never liked that Steven Williams. Always thought he was bit of a toss, but everything he said was 100%.

Something that annoys me...

Back in '04-'05 the goal was for the team to finish top 4. Well we haven't done that the past 2 years, & last year we didn't make the 8 altogether. So what's happened to the expected standard ? No backbone at all. Hard to see Doust justify keeping Brown after this year.
 

Father Ted

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Really top class work Willow . You touch on a really sore point though . Next year is the big centenary year and Kogarah will play absolutely no part in it . Disgraceful Mr Doust , you have zero idea what Saints are all about .
 

Willow

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God-King Dean said:
Never liked that Steven Williams. Always thought he was bit of a toss, but everything he said was 100%.
I hear you God. The bastard is a constant annoyance to me.
 

ozbash

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agree with your best player, wish we had creagh.

think you are a bit hard on the dragons with your prediction for 08. I reckon your young blokes will repay the club for letting them get a run this year, especially the young kiwi boys.

good read mate.
 

RedVDave

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Father Ted said:
Really top class work Willow . You touch on a really sore point though . Next year is the big centenary year and Kogarah will play absolutely no part in it . Disgraceful Mr Doust , you have zero idea what Saints are all about .

Strong & powerful words! So true but Doust is SCUM!
 
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St George Illawarra Dragons 2007 Season in Review
Written by: Steven Williams
November 2nd 2007 01:29 PM

2007 is arguably the worst season ever for the St George Illawarra Dragons.

In finishing 13th, and on 20 competition points, the Dragons narrowly managed to avoid the wooden spoon. The last-placed Panthers ended up on 18 points but did so with a differential of -68. The Dragons, struggling with a differential of -78, were just one loss away from adding the spoon to an already woeful season.

There have been worse seasons for the joint venture partners. Since their formation in 1982, Illawarra have at times struggled at the lower end of the ladder, the Steelers finishing with the wooden spoon three times. The St George club too has seen darker days, some 70 seasons ago. Indeed, the last time a St George team saw the wooden spoon was in 1938, finishing last in an eight team competition. It still remains, however, that since the club's formation in 1921, no first grade rugby league team bearing the Dragon emblem has ever finished 13th on the competition ladder.

The Dragons season of 2007 was consistently poor. The team only managed two consecutive wins on one occasion, in rounds 16-17. After defeating eventual grand finalists the Sea Eagles 26-22 and backing up to thrash the Raiders 58-16 one week later, the Dragons gave fans slim hope that the annual charge towards the semis was still on the cards. But in round 18, Saints came crashing back to earth after suffering a 44-16 defeat at hands of the Warriors. For all intents and purposes, the Dragons of 2007 were a write-off and from that moment on, the question was one of survival.

So what are the root causes for this dismal season?

Dragons officials will point to an inexperienced squad being hit hard by injuries. It is true that Saints have had another season of players being repeatedly sidelined. When Mark Gasnier suffered a pectoral injury in the pre-season Charity Shield clash, it set the pattern for a horrendous run of injuries in the opening rounds of competition.

In 2007, Saints used no less than 32 first graders, including 11 first grade debutants. To put this in perspective, you have to go back to 1995 to find the last time a Dragons side used more than 30 first grade players in a season. The most players a Dragons team has ever used in one season were 35 (1971, 1982 and 1983). The Dragons club of 2007 busted through the 30 player barrier after just 12 rounds of competition.

Nevertheless, the casualty ward only tells part of the story. In the latter part of the season, with players coming back from injury, the Dragons still couldn’t win the games that mattered.

Is the coach to blame?

The coach is applauded during the good times, so it stands to reason that he must shoulder some of the blame during the lean times. Many fans were calling for the head of Coach Nathan Brown in 2007, club CEO Peter Doust responded by giving ‘Brownie’ his full support. For the time being at least, Brown’s 2008 contract as head coach of the Dragons will remain intact.

Nevertheless, the Dragons struggled for form throughout the season. Lack of discipline (the Dragons conceded 176 penalties) as well as poor options in both attack and defence severely hampered the team's chances in 2007.

Stats at a glance - 2007

Wins: 9
Losses: 15
Position: 13th
First Grade Players: 32 (14 with previous NRL experience with Dragons, plus 18 on debut for Dragons including 11 NRL debutants)
Run Wins/Losses: W L L L L B L W L W L W L L L W W L W L W L L W L
Best Winning Streak: 2 - rounds 16-17
Worst Losing Streak: 5 - rounds 2-7 (bye round 6)
Home Wins/Losses: 6/6
Away Wins/Losses: 3/9

2008 and beyond

HOME GROUND ISSUES
2008 could be a tough year for the joint venture club. With news that the development of Kogarah’s Oki Jubilee Stadium has been postponed, the Dragons will be playing much of their season at the vacuous Telstra Stadium in Homebush.

On previous occasions when the Dragons moved away from Kogarah, history has not been kind to their on-field fortunes.

While the club will point to funding issues as the cause of this shift, others have been far less accommodating. Local businesses, councillors and fans have all been critics of the move. In particular, support group R2K has stated that the redevelopment of OKI Jubilee Stadium could be delayed until July next year so that five NRL matches could be staged at Kogarah for 2008, the Centenary season of rugby league in Australia.

To the casual observer, it seems like an opportunity lost. The Club, however, views the financial kickback from Telstra as a positive outcome in the decision to move to Homebush.

PLAYER ISSUES
Player retention is also an ongoing concern for the Dragons. While the injury woes of 2007 gave opportunities to future stars such as Chase Stanley, Dan Hunt, Rangi Chase and Jason Nightingale, there has also been a steady stream of players leaving over the last two seasons with more former Saints set to wear another club’s jersey in 2008. Moreover, the club’s decision to ditch the Jersey Flegg competition one year early (in 2006) in readiness for the National Under 20s Competition of 2008 (Toyota Cup) appears to have left holes in the lower ranks. In addition, the Dragons will not be fielding a Premier League side in 2008, thereby relying heavily on the less competitive Jim Beam Cup while placing a truckload of faith in the upcoming Toyota Cup competition.

While the Dragons have done well to retain a number of players, they also have numerous players with first grade experience departing. Add to this a new untested competition happening in the lower tiers, coupled with a policy of developing south coast juniors, and it does begin to look like a game of chance taking place. For the foreseeable future, the Dragons are locked into a roulette-style policy of repeatedly blooding rookies.

Will the gamble pay off?

Don’t get me wrong, we will no doubt see more future stars run out in the red V in the season ahead, and this is essential for further junior development.

By default, however, the Illawarra provides a backyard of talent for clubs throughout the NRL landscape, and these same clubs will be fielding teams against the Dragons.

ACCEPTANCE OF MEDIOCRITY?
Despite the spin of good intentions, the Dragons will not find on-field success in 2008. The Club will deny this apparent acceptance of mediocrity as they point to previous years of ‘top four finishes’, but many supporters are not so easily convinced.

The bottom line is that the immediate future of the Dragons is a grim one.

Club officials have just two seasons to conjure up a NRL grand final team, or become the first Dragons administration in history to go through a decade without a first grade team appearing in a premiership decider.

THE GOOD NEWS

Best player – Ben Creagh

Backrower Ben Creagh is the only player to have played all 24 games for the Dragons this year and is easily the club's most consistent performer. Starting as a winger in 2003, Creagh quickly progressed into the centres before finding his place in the second row and lock forward positions. At only 22-years-old, Creagh has made 90 appearances for the Dragons and is perhaps the youngest 'veteran' in this year’s injury-ravaged squad.
Creagh topped the stats in many of the games main areas, making 643 tackles (150 more than any other team member), 331 hit-ups with 51 tackle breaks and 10 offloads.
Creagh’s efforts were recognised by the Club and supporters, the Wollongong junior winning the prestigious St George Bank Medal for “Player of the Year” as well as the supporters Red V Members “Player of the Year” Award.
Already an Australian rep, Creagh will no doubt feature in future representative fixtures.

Best wins

1. Round 12 (1st June 2007) v Broncos (Kogarah Jubilee)
With a team largely made up of reserve graders, an enthusiastic Dragons outfit were able to roll a full strength Brisbane Broncos by 11-4 at Kogarah Jubilee Oval. Jamie Soward, who only signed up with Saints during the week, put together a near perfect kicking display as the young Dragons forwards were able dominate the experienced Brisbane pack. The win was all the more impressive given that the Broncos were in red hot form following their 71-6 shellacking of the Newcastle Knights the week before. Other match standouts for the Dragons included prop Jason Ryles and full back Josh Morris.
The victory continues a winning streak and a dominance that Saints have held over the Broncos since 2005.

2. Round 17 (8th July 2007) v Raiders (WIN Stadium)
Played in windy conditions, the Dragons thrashed the Canberra Raiders 58-16 in Wollongong. The biggest winning margin of the year for Saints.
Trailing by 22-10, the Raiders had the wind at their backs in the second half and the match was still up for grabs.
The Raiders had the momentum for the opening minutes of the second half, but the Dragons scored next when outside back Josh Morris ran 80 metres to score under the posts, thereby setting the theme for the remainder of the match.
In all, St George Illawarra ran in 10 tries to three and ultimately dominated all aspects of the encounter. Top scorer for the match was goal kicker and halfback Jamie Soward who posted a personal tally of 22 points.

Best rookies

With so many players being blooded in 2007, it’s hard to single out a standout rookie.
17-year-old Chase Stanley definitely deserves a mention. After scoring on debut (round 2) Stanley found his way the line with six tries in 2007. Playing at centre and on the wing, Stanley has the hallmarks of a future back rower, his mobility and pace is matched by his ability to hit the line hard. A future international, Stanley came to the notice of Kiwi selectors and was named in the New Zealand train-on squad for 2007 Test series.
A high schools student in 2007, Stanley is definitely one to watch in 2008.

The twin brother of Brett Morris, and son of Steve 'Slippery' Morris, Josh Morris debuted in round one and had an immediate impact in the outside backs. His blistering pace proved too good for the Storm's Billy Slater in round five and in round 12, Morris had no trouble in standing up Broncos and Queensland full back Karmichael Hunt. Josh fell off the pace late in 2007 but should have a standout year in 2008.

Other rookies who deserve mention are five eighth Rangi Chase, winger Jason Nightingale, hooker Ben Elllis, and forwards Lagi Setu and Dan Hunt.

Best signing – Jamie Soward

The Dragons have a policy of developing juniors, and therefore have only few new signings to choose from.
Discarded by the Roosters, Jamie Soward made an impact in round 12 when Saints outclassed the Broncos. Soward proved his worth in 2007 and should have done enough to cement a halfback spot in 2008.

PREDICTION FOR 2008

With no Kogarah and too many ‘away’ games scheduled, the Dragons will struggle to improve on this year’s efforts.
But if injuries are kept in check, and the rookies of 2007 step up to the crease, the Dragons just may be able to jag a top eight spot.
How high the Club is willing to aim is another matter entirely. If a top eight spot is seen as a measure of success, then the Dragons of 2008 will once again find themselves languishing at the bottom of the ladder, and on the outside looking in.
 
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I think that is a pretty fair break down..

i do not like the 08 prediction though, it's true to say that our "away" games will have us struggle all season..

All i say is gee i hope the supporters come out in truckloads when games are on a Telstra, we need to create a "home ground" feeling to have any hope of a good 08.


Thoughts ?
 

Willow

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I merged the threads D.S.

I'm normally very optimistic, but I do believe a top eight for 2008 is the best they can do. IMO, the biggest worry is that the club will see this as a 'success'.
 

Collateral

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Good article.

Player retention and recruitment is becoming a huge problem here and I think we will see a similar season next year because of it.
 
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Like i said the home advantage is only going to be what 6 games isn't it?

2007
Home Wins/Losses: 6/6
Away Wins/Losses: 3/9

If that trend continues or we slight better the away games then it will be 10 or 11 wins, hmmmmm. Gee i hope the boys have a great off season.
 

Father Ted

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Dragon Scott said:
I think that is a pretty fair break down..

i do not like the 08 prediction though, it's true to say that our "away" games will have us struggle all season..

All i say is gee i hope the supporters come out in truckloads when games are on a Telstra, we need to create a "home ground" feeling to have any hope of a good 08.


Thoughts ?

Not gonna happen .
 

Quigs

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As an outsider looking in - I would like to read the 2007 Season in Review from the gathering of the wise old (forum) men that met at the Taj in early October for a jovial end of seasons drinks. Some called it a late mad monday.

Is there any reports on that report being made public.

Cheers
Quigs
 

Godz Illa

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Comprehensive and accurate Willow, nice work.
Willow said:
I'm normally very optimistic, but I do believe a top eight for 2008 is the best they can do.
I have great faith in our top 17 (and the coach tbh) but I also agree with this. No premier league and no Kogarah are major problems and we'd need a virtually injury-free season to have any hope of overcoming these two factors. That said, I think we have a team with the potential to win a lot of games.
 
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We are playing some "home games" at Telstra, can't change that but maybe Brownie should re-direct some training sessions to telstra to try to get a home feel in the heads of the guys.. Otherwise they are playing with no "home" advantage at all on that ground.

Something like this needs to occur..
 

This Year?

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With their best 17 on the field consistently the Dragons would be capable of making a top 8 finish. I would hate to think that '08 will be the same as '07, but it is on the cards. Soward really needs to mature as a HB and give the team some direction. We have arguably the best centres in the game and they simply aren't getting enough ball. Every time I see Soward shape to kick I scream "nooooooo".

The Dragons forward pack (besides Creagh) has been as absolute rabble and the so called experience of Woolford hasn't helped at all. I think Saints desperately need a good hooker who can get the pack organised and fired up.

'07 has been the worst season for me as a fan and I really hope I don't see another season like this ever again.
 

The Preacher

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Quigs said:
As an outsider looking in - I would like to read the 2007 Season in Review from the gathering of the wise old (forum) men that met at the Taj in early October for a jovial end of seasons drinks. Some called it a late mad monday.

Is there any reports on that report being made public.

Cheers
Quigs


Well Quigs,

Our inaugural "Mad Monday" was a bit low on numbers, as I think some may have been scared off by the pre post reports of the drinking prowess of some members. We did have a couple of "call-ins" that felt compelled to be part of the day and a few that stayed for the day.
With Father Ted doing push ups in his jocks, and Big Pat commandering a council streetsweeper, entertainment was of a high standard.
Gaz was going to call in to have a beer with us, but dislocated his shoulder getting out of his car. Jason Ryles coundn't make it as, naturally, he was suspended. Mr Tired and Emotional was going to come into the TAB bar to see all his devotees, but upon surveying those that were present, realised he had no fans in attendance, and steered clear of the infected area.
All in all, a good time was had by all, and I hope this can grow into a well attended annual event, that may even be able to attract interstate interest.
The Dragons Forum Mad Monday, soon to be the "Hottest Ticket in Town";-)
 

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