2011 Parra Football Club AGM

[The EELiminator]

Seriously, this is a minor slip up. The media will blow anything Parramatta related completely out of proportion, so taking cues from what they think is utterly ridiculous. They'll just wait till April to get him on the board. Big deal.

the scary thought is if they slipped up about this what else have they forgotten/overlooked/not known about :crazy:

 

[Suitman]

the scary thought is if they slipped up about this what else have they forgotten/overlooked/not known about :crazy:

Paul Osborne?

Suity

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Paul Osborne?

Suity

Yes they didn't know about him either.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Gronk, agreed , but the frustrating parrt is we sell newspapers and even the most insignificant story gets blown out of proportion ( EGS qualifies in 4 mths)

See we all know it is really an insignificant story, that Grothe can't be a Board member. The bigger story is that those in charge of our club failed to realize this fact, before they announced the appointment. The appointment announcement, takes employees time (so money) and of that that was spent without asking the first basic question. Does Eric qualify to be a member of the board.


This is not the first time these same people have been caught out with this. During the election with Terry Leabeater, while slightly different is still a case in point. They get the people they want then announce it then check their availability, really the first thing they should do is check their availability, then ask them if they want to get involved.

 

[Suitman]

See we all know it is really an insignificant story, that Grothe can't be a Board member. The bigger story is that those in charge of our club failed to realize this fact, before they announced the appointment. The appointment announcement, takes employees time (so money) and of that that was spent without asking the first basic question. Does Eric qualify to be a member of the board.


This is not the first time these same people have been caught out with this. During the election with Terry Leabeater, while slightly different is still a case in point. They get the people they want then announce it then check their availability, really the first thing they should do is check their availability, then ask them if they want to get involved.

I suppose what's more concerning is that Eric should have known that he wasn't eligible but took up the position anyway.
Do we really need people like this on the board if they are that incapable?
Geez, even I would have known if I was eligible or not, should I have been nominated.
It really was an example of amateur hour. The board should be ashamed.

Suity

 

[Eels Dude]

This is not the first time these same people have been caught out with this. During the election with Terry Leabeater, while slightly different is still a case in point. They get the people they want then announce it then check their availability, really the first thing they should do is check their availability, then ask them if they want to get involved.

In this case they didn't even do that, they had to have it pointed out to them by an outsider. This raises the question, are they even aware that there are rules in place as to who sits on the board to begin with. They probably just assumed Grothe qualified because he's on the District Club board, the same way a lot of fans don't realise they don't have voting rights for the NRL side board unless they're a member of the leagues club, as opposed to the football club. The board, unlike fans should know better. And Grothe himself should know better as he took out a membership for the League's club in the same month that 3P won the election and ousted Fitzgerald.

 

[strider]

i think its the fact that is some inconsequential crappy little rule that no one bothered to worry about it .... simple really

EG has been involved with Parra so long why even bother will silly little worthless rules to even think he might not be ok for it?

 

[ParraAds]

the scary thought is if they slipped up about this what else have they forgotten/overlooked/not known about :crazy:

You probably don't wanna know.

 

[Bigfella]

Strides I reckon the real point about the rule, Dennis' knowledge of it, and his knowing Eric's status, is that those types of rules are the sorts of things in club constitutions that favour incumbency.

Dennis is all over it like a rash, not because he is more professional or competent, but because he was obsessed with putting obstacles in the path of anyone who posed a potential challenge to his position.

Why did he know Eric's status and when he joined? Because he was associated with 3p at the time of the initial challenge and Dennis would have been covering every angle to prevent any real opposition.

He has used it to embarrass the administration and the club and to the extent that people have listened he has furthered his own agenda.

But in real terms it means f**k all. Especially compared with issues such as spending club money for your personal benefit or awarding contracts payable by the club for many times the price they should be.

The sooner the bloke gets his ego and influence out o our club and using his contacts in the media to do so the sooner we can move forward.

He complains about the board being dysfunctional. But he actively impedes the functionality of the board and club whenever he can, whether personally or by his mates.

 

[Parra]

Strides I reckon the real point about the rule, Dennis' knowledge of it, and his knowing Eric's status, is that those types of rules are the sorts of things in club constitutions that favour incumbency.

Dennis is all over it like a rash, not because he is more professional or competent, but because he was obsessed with putting obstacles in the path of anyone who posed a potential challenge to his position.

Why did he know Eric's status and when he joined? Because he was associated with 3p at the time of the initial challenge and Dennis would have been covering every angle to prevent any real opposition.

He has used it to embarrass the administration and the club and to the extent that people have listened he has furthered his own agenda.

But in real terms it means f**k all. Especially compared with issues such as spending club money for your personal benefit or awarding contracts payable by the club for many times the price they should be.

The sooner the bloke gets his ego and influence out o our club and using his contacts in the media to do so the sooner we can move forward.

He complains about the board being dysfunctional. But he actively impedes the functionality of the board and club whenever he can, whether personally or by his mates.

Nothing in your post excuses such a basic oversight.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Bloody Fitzy!

I blame Glen Duncan too.

 

[Tony Bongo]

You probably don't wanna know.

I do ! What have you got ?

 

[Tony Bongo]

I wonder if Glenn Duncan was a 3 year member?

Suity

I think that's a good question. Had he been a member for 3 calendar years at the time when he was appointed to the board ?
In any case I can't understand how many are making a bigger deal of this than the fact that we have now had two consecutive board members appointed who have clearly had a conflict of interest. I find that a club legend not being eligible, due to having not been a member of the club for the required period of time, trivial by comparison.
I understand rules are rules but in this instance I believe it highlights a fatal flaw with regards to the initial intention of those rules. I think it also highlights the necessity for Season Ticket Holders or long serving Football Club Members to be given the right to be eligible to vote for both boards associated with the running of the team they support.

 

[born an eel]

I think that's a good question. Had he been a member for 3 calendar years at the time when he was appointed to the board ?
In any case I can't understand how many are making a bigger deal of this than the fact that we have now had two consecutive board members appointed who have clearly had a conflict of interest. I find that a club legend not being eligible, due to having not been a member of the club for the required period of time, trivial by comparison.
I understand rules are rules but in this instance I believe it highlights a fatal flaw with regards to the initial intention of those rules. I think it also highlights the necessity for Season Ticket Holders or long serving Football Club Members to be given the right to be eligible to vote for both boards associated with the running of the team they support.

MITS has answered the question regarding GD.

While I did agree with the conflict of interest regarding a major sponsor on the board, it gets pretty hard to draw a line regarding others who have a "perceived conflict of interest". The registered club act requires members to be notified of any business association of a board member or executive. Where to you drawn the line, Dr Michael Johnston was in a similar position for years with no complaint. What about Mario having an association with a competitor club?

The surprising aspect about EGS association is the fact that his payments with his band aren't listed in the report (or he plays for free), I see this an area that could be exploited if people were so inclined.

Really if people are so concerned with the operation of the NRL side is it too much to pay $100 for a perpetual membership to the club?

 

[Jodeci]

MITS has answered the question regarding GD.

While I did agree with the conflict of interest regarding a major sponsor on the board, it gets pretty hard to draw a line regarding others who have a "perceived conflict of interest". The registered club act requires members to be notified of any business association of a board member or executive. Where to you drawn the line, Dr Michael Johnston was in a similar position for years with no complaint. What about Mario having an association with a competitor club?

The surprising aspect about EGS association is the fact that his payments with his band aren't listed in the report (or he plays for free), I see this an area that could be exploited if people were so inclined.

Really if people are so concerned with the operation of the NRL side is it too much to pay $100 for a perpetual membership to the club?

You can't compare Libertini's Italian restuarant compared to the Firehouse. Absolutely nothing to compare.

La Piazza is a sponsor of our club also.

 

[Jodeci]

See we all know it is really an insignificant story, that Grothe can't be a Board member. The bigger story is that those in charge of our club failed to realize this fact, before they announced the appointment. The appointment announcement, takes employees time (so money) and of that that was spent without asking the first basic question. Does Eric qualify to be a member of the board.


This is not the first time these same people have been caught out with this. During the election with Terry Leabeater, while slightly different is still a case in point. They get the people they want then announce it then check their availability, really the first thing they should do is check their availability, then ask them if they want to get involved.

WOW MITS.

You have been waiting for this slip up.

They have stuffed up and your really stretching it for as long as u can sustain this roll on.

Did this stuff up cost the club?

Did Guru Snr steal money?

He literally sat in 2 board meetings?

Was it really that bad? 10 pages on and we are still crying on about a minor little issue that had no bearing on any costs to the Leagues Club?

The Leabeater membership has nothing to do with this so I'm not sure why your digging that far back.

How did the announcement cost time (wages). It would of taken Doug McDougall probably 5 to 10 mins to run that release.

Storm in a tea cup, there are other bigger issues at the moment and we have become to fickle.

I would be more concerned if we didn't have a major sponsor like 2 other Sydney clubs at the moment or the Stadium won't be ready till after July cause the stadium roof is falling apart.

Yes Mits, Fitzy has caught the board out, well done to the bloke. It's nice to see that he is monitoring them and keeping them on their toes.

 

[born an eel]

You can't compare Libertini's Italian restuarant compared to the Firehouse. Absolutely nothing to compare.

La Piazza is a sponsor of our club also.

that was my point, but if your worried about a $50k chook raffle, how can you not be concerned about other associations.

Personally if Mario was involved in getting Paynter Dixon involved in the refurbishments then I think his association is a positive one.

 

[Jodeci]

Paynter Dixon do most of the refurbs on the majority of RSL and Leagues Club around Sydney.

Yes they are still currently doing work at Bankstown Sports Club

 

[born an eel]

Paynter Dixon do most of the refurbs on the majority of RSL and Leagues Club around Sydney.

Yes they are still currently doing work at Bankstown Sports Club

and they have for the last 20 years, I have probably worked on most of them through an associated company.

 

[boxhead]

We might be getting a new sponsor soon?