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2011 TOP 10 'cracked" crystal ball predictions

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Seems I stumbled into the wrong place.

This must be the soccer thread.

Could have sworn I was on the Parramatta Eels page. :?:lol:
 

caylo

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The rumour floating around a few months ago was that with the imminent departure of Robbie Keane, and Crouch + Pavlyuchenko not doing too well at the moment, we would be investing in a good, cheap striker; the name floated around was Edabayor from ManCity (would be a great buy, talented and would cost barely anything).

From reading Redknapp's comments on signing Beckham, the big reason they want him is because they want him to help out Aaron Lennon (our right winger). Lennon is one of the fastest players in the world and has skill but you rarely see him cross or score, etc, because he usually just uses his speed. Playing Beckham off the bench is not only a great move to boost our midfield but he would also provide a lot of experience and positivity to our young players, i.e. Bale, Lennon, etc.

He would be a great buy and wouldn't cost that much either, plus all the money he would rake in for the club.

I think pav is doing alright, thee coach just won't give him more then a few games in succession. I also may be mistaken but doesn't mondric play on the right wing not lennon?
 

Eelementary

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:) Despite his record, I think Mourinho is the far superior coach. When you have players - like caylo said - that have played with each-other for so long and who are each so wonderfully talented, it's no surprise they absolutely tear everyone else apart.

Mourinho is the only coach in the world that could possibly turn Madrid into champions in the next few years (they need to stick with their young players and not invest so much into buying big names). When all their young talents like Ozil start matching together like a true team, then they will be a chance. Until then, I give Madrid zero chance of taking the championship from Barcelona in the next three-five years.

Rijkaard was at Barca for 5 years and his list of achievements was as follows:

2 La Liga titles
2 Supercopa de Espana titles
1 UEFA Champions league


Guardiola, who started in June, 2008, already has:

2 La Liga titles
2 Supercopas
1 Copa del Rey
1 UEFA Champions League
1 UEFA Super Cup
1 FIFA Club World Cup

Messi and Xavi and co. were a constant for both coaches. Yet Guardiola is FAR more successful.

Point is not only is Pep a Barca playing legend, but he's obviously a super coach - you'd have to go way back to 1988 with Johan Cruyff to find a more successful coach for Barca.
 

boxhead

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I think pav is doing alright, thee coach just won't give him more then a few games in succession. I also may be mistaken but doesn't mondric play on the right wing not lennon?

Yeah I think Pavlyuchenko is doing ok, but the thing for me is that he has the talent to be much better than he currently is. As for Modric, yeah Lennon is actually the right winger, Modric plays centre-midfield along with Palacios (or Huddlestone when he returns from injury). On a side note, I particularly enjoy Jermaine Jenas' contributions when paired with Modric, to me he was the reason we won in the Newcastle game.

Rijkaard was at Barca for 5 years and his list of achievements was as follows:

2 La Liga titles
2 Supercopa de Espana titles
1 UEFA Champions league


Guardiola, who started in June, 2008, already has:

2 La Liga titles
2 Supercopas
1 Copa del Rey
1 UEFA Champions League
1 UEFA Super Cup
1 FIFA Club World Cup

Messi and Xavi and co. were a constant for both coaches. Yet Guardiola is FAR more successful.

Point is not only is Pep a Barca playing legend, but he's obviously a super coach - you'd have to go way back to 1988 with Johan Cruyff to find a more successful coach for Barca.

A super coach sure but he is no Jose Mourinho. If Mourinho had a team that had so much congruency then he would have even better stats than Guardiola.

I mean, compare the line-ups of Real Madrid and Barcelona; whilst Madrid may have more talent in the team, I mean bloody hell not even Kaka can get a starting gig when he is un-injured, plus Ronaldo, Ozil, Ramos, Carvalho, Leon, Di Maria, Higuian, etc; Madrid's team is filled with massive egos and it's no surprise that they struggle to be as congruent with each-other as Barcelona.
 
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Eelementary

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I disagree. Barca has talent all over the park. If Andres Iniesta and Xavi aren't two of the world's most under-rated players, I'll eat my hat.

Mourinho's only distinguishing point from Guardiola is that he's been coaching for longer and with a greater array of teams. But taking his time with Inter, for instance:

2008 Supercoppa
2009 Seria A
2010 Serie A
2010 Coppa Italia
2010 UEFA Champions League

Don't forget - in his short stint in charge of Barcelona, one of world football's biggest and proudest clubs, he is already equal on Barcelona's most successful coaches list with Johan Cruyff. This, three seasons into his career. He also boasts a 73.15% win rate from 149 games that he's been in charge. Mourinho in his time at Inter had a 62.96% win rate from 109 games. Less games, true - but Barca played more games partially because they were more successful in big tournaments and went deeper in.

And consider Mourinho's career stats:

Benfica: 54.55% from 11 games
Uniao de Leiria: 54.84% from 31 games
Porto: 70.73% from 123 games
Chelsea: 70.81% from 185 games
Internazionale: 62.96% from 108 games
Real: 80.77% from 26 games

That gives him a career figure of 68.18% from 484 games. Not shabby, by any stretch of the imagination. But Guardiola, with a third of that career under his belt, is already Barcelona's equal most successful coach and boasts a career win percentage that any coach would be proud of.
 

caylo

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I disagree. Barca has talent all over the park. If Andres Iniesta and Xavi aren't two of the world's most under-rated players, I'll eat my hat.

Mourinho's only distinguishing point from Guardiola is that he's been coaching for longer and with a greater array of teams. But taking his time with Inter, for instance:

2008 Supercoppa
2009 Seria A
2010 Serie A
2010 Coppa Italia
2010 UEFA Champions League

Don't forget - in his short stint in charge of Barcelona, one of world football's biggest and proudest clubs, he is already equal on Barcelona's most successful coaches list with Johan Cruyff. This, three seasons into his career. He also boasts a 73.15% win rate from 149 games that he's been in charge. Mourinho in his time at Inter had a 62.96% win rate from 109 games. Less games, true - but Barca played more games partially because they were more successful in big tournaments and went deeper in.

And consider Mourinho's career stats:

Benfica: 54.55% from 11 games
Uniao de Leiria: 54.84% from 31 games
Porto: 70.73% from 123 games
Chelsea: 70.81% from 185 games
Internazionale: 62.96% from 108 games
Real: 80.77% from 26 games

That gives him a career figure of 68.18% from 484 games. Not shabby, by any stretch of the imagination. But Guardiola, with a third of that career under his belt, is already Barcelona's equal most successful coach and boasts a career win percentage that any coach would be proud of.

Its like comparing Gibson and Bennett, very difficult to say who is better but I personally think that Guardiola is a better coach and tactically superior then Mourinho.

They coach the two most talented teams in the world, between then they probably have the top 5 or 6 players atleast. Results this year between then are very close with Barca losing one match and RM losing and drawing a match, with them both being run away leaders in La Liga.

I dont think Guardiola will ever be regarded as a better coach then Mourinho until he replicates results at another club (similar to Bennet). He was a Barca champion so i doubt he will ever leave and probably coach Barca for 20 odd years.
 

Eelementary

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Its like comparing Gibson and Bennett, very difficult to say who is better but I personally think that Guardiola is a better coach and tactically superior then Mourinho.

They coach the two most talented teams in the world, between then they probably have the top 5 or 6 players atleast. Results this year between then are very close with Barca losing one match and RM losing and drawing a match, with them both being run away leaders in La Liga.

I dont think Guardiola will ever be regarded as a better coach then Mourinho until he replicates results at another club (similar to Bennet). He was a Barca champion so i doubt he will ever leave and probably coach Barca for 20 odd years.

Fair points, mate!
 

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