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2012 NSW Cup

girvie

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are the magpies going it alone or they still associated with the tigers
I believe that Balmain Ryde Eastwood are the direct feeder team for Wests Tigers, so the Magpies won't directly be getting NRL players, however they will still have association with Wests Tigers.
 

girvie

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Looking forward to next year with the inclusion of Illawarra and the Mounties and Canberra partnership.


http://www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=45420&title=2012-vb-nsw-cup-draw-released

13 NRL teams will be represented in the VB NSW Cup in 2012 as St George-Illawarra and Canberra return through joint-venture partnerships with Illawarra and Mounties.

The 2012 season will be a 26 round competition which features a number of new initiatives set to reaffirm the VB NSW Cup as the premier feeder competition to the NRL.

The Newtown Jets will break new ground in 2012 as they leave their spiritual home at Henson Park and take their round 15 fixture against the Windsor Wolves to Pioneer Oval Parkes.

On what is the biggest weekend on the Parkes calendar, celebrations will include the Parkes Picnic Races on Saturday and culminate in this historic VB NSW Cup match on the Sunday.

The VB NSW Cup season will also see two unique rounds where three double headers will be played for individual trophies in a three-pool system. The pools will be the Foundation Challenge (Newtown, North Sydney, Western Suburbs and Balmain Ryde-Eastwood), the Battle of the West (Canterbury-Bankstown, Wentworthville, Mounties and Windsor) and finally, the Battle of the Coast (Newcastle, Cronulla, Manly and Illawarra).

NSWRL General Manager Geoff Carr says off the back of a stellar year in 2011, the VB NSW Cup looks set to only further enhance its position as the premier open-age competition in Australia.

“Around 500,000 viewers tuned into watch a thrilling Grand Final between Canterbury-Bankstown and Auckland last year at ANZ Stadium,” Mr Carr said.

“The success of 2011 season coupled with the support of our new sponsor in VB places the VB NSW Cup in a strong position to strengthen the competition.

“There is an ever expanding appetite for quality Rugby League at suburban venues and with the return of St George-Illawarra and Canberra, this will now expand the VB NSW Cup’s footprint into two of Rugby League’s heartland’s in the south coast and western Sydney.

“With games already being at quintessential suburban grounds such as Leichhardt Oval, Henson Park and North Sydney Oval, it exciting to see the return of defending premiers, Canterbury-Bankstown, to a refurbished Belmore Sports Ground.”

The season is set to start on Saturday, March 3, with the 2012 Grand Final again set down for NRL Grand Final day at ANZ Stadium on Sunday, September 30.

2012 VB NSW Cup structure:
NSW Cup club - NRL Affiliate
Auckland Vulcans - New Zealand Warriors
Balmain-Ryde-Eastwood Tigers - Wests Tigers
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs - Own team
Cronulla Sharks - Cronulla Sharks & Melbourne Storm
Illawarra - St George-Illawarra Dragons
Manly Sea Eagles - Own team
Mounties - Canberra Raiders
Newcastle Knights - Own team
Newtown Jets - Sydney Roosters
North Sydney Bears - South Sydney Rabbitohs
Wentworthville Magpies - Parramatta Eels
Western Suburbs Magpies - Own team
Windsor Wolves - Penrith Panthers

Please find a copy of the 2012 VB NSW Cup under the related items tab for your convenience.

Please note: As the draw is subject to change throughout the season, please refer to www.nswrl.com.au for up to date fixture information during the 2012 season.
 

paulmac

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If the Magpies arent with the Tigers wouldnt it make sense to aproach the storm?Id actually like the Storm to link with Wellington(NZ) as there is so much talent over there and skytv could cover 1 NSW cup game every week which could be beamed back to Aus on Saturdays at 12pm.
 
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If the Magpies arent with the Tigers wouldnt it make sense to aproach the storm?Id actually like the Storm to link with Wellington(NZ) as there is so much talent over there and skytv could cover 1 NSW cup game every week which could be beamed back to Aus on Saturdays at 12pm.

http://westsmagpies.blogspot.com/2012/01/save-our-sides-protest-rally.html

Some unhappy (and rightly so) campers down in C-town...

Seems f*cked to me that Wests Tigers continue to send all NSW Cup players to Balmain. Hope the Maggies continue to survive in the NSW Cup.
 

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SOS - Save Our Sides - Press Release


SOS from Supporters of the Wests Magpies and Campbelltown- Liverpool District Rugby League to the NRL and Independent Commission:

SAVE RUGBY LEAGUE OUT HERE… WE NEED ACTION NOW!

Rugby League at all levels in the Liverpool, Campbelltown and greater Macarthur region is in an absolute shambles. We, the undersigned, have organized a protest rally and march for Sunday February 5th.

The march will start at Campbelltown City Council chambers, 10am sharp and proceed down Queen St. Campbelltown to Wests Leagues Club, Campbelltown. Here a petition will be presented to the Wests Junior League and Wests Leagues Club Campbelltown, outlining the many issues that have and are still ruining Rugby League in Campbelltown.

An on-line petition is also currently active at http://www.petitiononlineaustralia.com/petition/save-our-sides-rugby-league-protest-rally/277for people to voice and register their support for sweeping change throughout all levels of Rugby League in the Liverpool, Campbelltown and Macarthur area.


Speakers of note have been invited to the march, with the goals of the march to highlight the following alarming concerns:


· The decline of an unacceptably poorly managed junior league, inclusive of the total loss of semi- professional senior Rugby League in the region, and the fact that three senior clubs (Campbelltown City Kangaroos, Campbelltown Eagles and Macarthur Bulls) who dared seek semi- professional competition in CRL Group 6 were forced to play and train out of the area by the NSWRL on behalf of the Junior League.


· The Imminent Death of the Wests Magpies, foundation club of the NSWRL.


· The absent parent- the Concord Tigers, who use the Campbelltown- Liverpool area only for its juniors.


· The greater Rugby League fraternity of the region will also highlight the lack of amenities and infrastructure for junior Rugby League in the Campbelltown LGA, particularly in comparison to other districts and the very well catered other sports in the Campbelltown LGA.


· Solutions to all of these issues.



Wests Magpies RIP 1908- 2012:

The great Western Suburbs Magpies DRLFC has been told that the 2012 season will be their last in existence. The Tigers aligned board of the Ashfield Leagues Club has informed the football club of this. There will be no Wests Magpies team in the NSW Cup as of 2013. There will be no Liverpool- Macarthur representative in this important Sydney wide competition for our region’s talented youth.

All junior development and control of the Magpies Harold Matthews and SG Ball teams has reverted to the far away distant, Concord based Wests Tigers.
Macarthur and Liverpool based kids, working full-time jobs, are now basically denied the opportunity to play Toyota Cup by the tyranny of distance, with the Tigers team being based at the distant and poorly public transport accessed Concord complex.

Ø We demand that the NSWRL re-affirm the status of the Western Suburbs Magpies as the District Club of Liverpool- Campbelltown.
Ø We DEMAND that the Liverpool, Campbelltown and Macarthur region retains its own NSW Cup, SG Ball and Harold Matthews representative sides as the Western Suburbs Magpies.
Ø We demand that Wests Leagues Ashfield re-affirm the status of the Western Suburbs Magpies DRLFC as their heritage.
Ø We demand that the Wests Tigers and Wests Leagues Campbelltown stop meddling in the affairs of the Western Suburbs Magpies DRLFC




The Western Suburbs District Junior League

There are way too many stories here to list- not teams lost, but of whole clubs lost, whole age groups, whole senior competitions, volunteers refused registration for speaking their mind, volunteers too intimidated to voice opinions, volunteers made examples of and given punitive 2-7 year suspensions for sending texts/ emails voicing dissatisfaction with the conduct of the competitions. One volunteer, Daniel Draper of the East Campbelltown Eagles, was banned for a conversation at a local pub.
http://macarthur-chronicle-camden.w...from-western-suburbs-district-junior-rugby-l/
http://macarthur-chronicle-campbell.../david-lucas-banned-for-18-months-over-texts/

The most telling is their common factor status in many bitter disputes against the NSWRL (refusing to affiliate), the WSDRLFC (refusing to affiliate amongst others), the CRL, CRL Group 6 and a number of its own clubs down the years.

Ø We demand that the Board of the NSWRL or the new Independent Commission complete a rigid and thorough examination as to why in 1991 this junior league had 20 clubs and in 2012 will be down to 12-13 clubs and why this junior league has lost 400 players senior players in the last two seasons. How can this be possible when the area has trebled in population? The Wests junior league should also be called to account on how it lost the operation of an entire 5 grade senior competition between 1991 and 1997.
Ø We demand that a thorough and rigid investigation of the ‘health’ of the unaffiliated Western Suburbs District Junior League (to the District Club and NSWRL) is conducted, and upon receipt of negative findings, is placed under the administrative control of the NSWRL and immediately re-affiliated to the WSDRLFC and NSWRL.

The separation of the Combined Wests Juniors/Group 6 Competition in 2011 has seen 3 senior clubs and over 400 local Wests senior Rugby League players (aged 16yo and older) make the move to play and train in the Group 6 area. These three clubs requested to be based to play/train in the Campbelltown area but were driven out of the area by the junior league to continue playing semi-professional Rugby League in the bordering CRL Group 6 competition. Campbelltown has been deprived of a high standard semi- professional Senior Rugby League competition since the original split from Group 6 back in 1983. The running of the senior Competition should be handed back to its rightful owner the Group 6 Senior Country Rugby League.
We DEMAND that CRL Group 6 be allowed to professionally run a Sunday Senior Competition for all clubs in the Campbelltown and Liverpool district.
We DEMAND that Rugby League clubs be allowed to play and train at a Home Ground of their own choosing.
http://www.macarthuradvertiser.com....roup-6-votes-to-accept-defectors/2000023.aspx
http://www.macarthuradvertiser.com....its-a-bloody-disgrace-says-henry/2181668.aspx
http://digitaledition.macarthurchro...spx?iid=48810&startpage=page0000006#folio=005




The Wests Tigers- the absent parent

Driven from Campbelltown to Concord lately? It’s a fair hike. There ain’t much in common between the two areas. One could be mistaken for thinking that the old inner-city guard put the old Balmain and the old Western Suburbs together to form a super Ashfield- Concord team.

What does Campbelltown get out of this ill-conceived arrangement? Four games against the out of town, low marquee event teams.

Wests Tigers do not have a presence in the schools of Liverpool, Campbelltown or Macarthur. Requests for player appearances fall on deaf ears from the Concord Tigers club. It’s a bit far from Concord.

Macarthur and Liverpool based juniors are now denied opportunity to play NSW Cup for a Campbelltown- Liverpool based club with the imminent death of the Magpies. Successful Macarthur juniors kept by the Tigers have to travel to the inner city and play for the Balmain Tigers NSW Cup team, making a mockery of the concept of a ‘local junior’. Four Campbelltown- Liverpool juniors took the field for the Wests Tigers in the Toyota Cup semi final against North Queensland. How is this providing opportunity for the youth of Liverpool- Macarthur?

-We DEMAND that the Wests Tigers establish a Campbelltown office.
-We DEMAND that the Wests Tigers at least relocate the training operations of their NYC Toyota Cup team and ‘Cubs Program’ to the Macarthur region.






Campbelltown Council and JRLC Amenities/ Infrastructure

Take a drive around Campbelltown and compare the different fields of the codes. Case closed.
Ask any junior league volunteer how hard it is to deal with employees at Campbelltown Council.

Problem solved with a new junior league administration and the return of semi- professional Rugby League.

Rugby League in the Liverpool, Campbelltown and Macarthur regions has been slowly dying since the loss of the Magpies to the NRL in 1999. We won’t be losing them as the District Club of the area. Enough is enough. It is time for the Wests Tigers to stop interfering in the Magpies and Rugby League throughout the Liverpool and Campbelltown regions. Go run the NRL team as you were charged to do.

After 20 years, change is far overdue in the ranks of the local Junior League. Retire them gracefully, give democratic power in the Junior League back to the volunteers and clubs, and install new blood at the helm.

At 10am on Sunday February 5th, Magpies supporters once again have to rally to save their club. Supporters of Rugby League in Campbelltown will rally also for long overdue change at Junior League level.

This is an invitation for you to join us.

Save or Sides Action Group,

Graeme Szynal
Western Suburbs Magpies Member 366
Mobile: 0407 929 124
Email: g.szynal@gmail.com

Trevor Williams
East Campbelltown Eagles Life Member
 

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MAGPIES NSW CUP TRIALS
v Cabramatta Bundy Cup - 11FEB - New Era Stadium 6pm
v Manly Sea Eagles NSW Cup - 18FEB - Brookvale Oval 5:45pm
TREVOR SCHODEL - NSW CUP COACH
Mobile: 0408 235 563
 
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Since when did Newtown get alternate jumpers?

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(Taken from the Newtown Twitter feed)
 

RL Tragic

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Good to see the NSW Cup looking even stronger this year. The more it keeps heading that way hopefully the Independent Commission will see it's value as without it we could miss a whole generation of players. Perhaps they could work the grants to each club so that if you have 3 teams rather than just 2 (NRL and NYC) you get more money? Any thoughts?
 

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PRESS RELEASE – Return to Lidcombe Oval

The “FIBROS” back at their former home Western Suburbs Magpies are flying back to their long-time base at Lidcombe Oval for the opening round of the VB NSW Cup.

With the Magpies Nest at Campbelltown Sports Stadium not available for the clubʼs season opener, theyʼll be lining up to face arch rivals the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles at the scene of so many of the infamous battles between the Fibros and the Silvertails

On Saturday 3rd March 2012, the Magpies will be calling their former base ʻHomeʼ once again in what promises to be a trip down memory lane for many Wests fans and Rugby League supporters in general.

The Magpies flew west from Lidcombe to Leumeah a quarter of a century ago and have not graced the hallowed turf of Lidcombe since 1986.

This nostalgic return to Lidcombe promises to be treasured and remembered for a long time to come.

Itʼs a rare opportunity for the Magpies and their supporters to relive memories of yesteryear when the famous black and whites became entrenched in Rugby League folklore as the ʻFibrosʼ representing the broad community that is the Western Suburbs of Sydney.

NSWRL VB NSW Cup 2012
Round 1: Saturday 3rd
March 2012
Venue: Lidcombe Oval Kick-off: 3pm (Gates Open 11.30am)
Western Suburbs Magpies Vs. Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles
Tickets available on the day at Lidcombe Oval
and at Wests Ashfield Leagues Clubʼs Reception
| Adults $10 | Children (16 years & Under) $5 | Kids 5 years and under FREE |


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nqcowboy87

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the whole magpies thing is bs, that was one of the agreements of the merger was that magpies would keep an open age team, illawarra was dropped as an open age team via an agreement between the dragons and steelers factions but this seems like an extermination more than anything. i know it would seem feasable to have the one direct feeder team but brisbane have four "reserve" grade teams in the qcup and they seem to go allright whereas some teams that only have one seem to go worse, so i think its a management issue more than anything.

also i cant beleive melbourne and cronulla are continuing with this dog and pony act called the cronulla storm or whatever theyre called
 
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I remember there being a debacle years ago when Newtown were forced to wear Easts' alternate strip against the Vulcans in NZ, but from all the pics I had seen since they solely wore royal blue. Thanks for the info though nqcowboy87.
 
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I remember there being a debacle years ago when Newtown were forced to wear Easts' alternate strip against the Vulcans in NZ, but from all the pics I had seen since they solely wore royal blue. Thanks for the info though nqcowboy87.

That was in 07 when the jets played the Auckland Lions as they were for a season, who wear a royal blue jersey with a white vee and there was a mix up between the clubs and I think the NSWRL was involved by not letting the clubs know they had to have an alternate jersey. So we ended up with a situation where the Jets had to wear the Roosters away jerseys from 06 for that game.
From 2008 onwards it's been a stipulation that all clubs have to have an alternate jersey, so that's how Newtown have the white jersey. Only gets worn a couple times a season, usually against the Vulcans, Melbourne and often against Canterbury. The jersey has always been the complete reverse of the home jersey.

Someone told me that they wore a white jersey for mid week cup games in the late 70's but have never seen evidence of this.

This is the first official Jets away jersey they've had.

newtown-jets-alternative-away-rugby-shirt-2008-s_1888_1_500x400.jpg
 

Patorick

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Keep thinking Windsor are Balmain.

Weird to see Brookvale empty and without ads on the fences.
 
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