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2014 new boys thread!

Gronk

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Some might remark that Gareth Hock, Parramatta's latest signing, has left it late to join the exodus of English stars to try his hand at the NRL. He has had several false starts before but, at 29, has signed to join the Eels next year.
Yet Hock doesn't see it that way. After a two-year ban, having tested positive for cocaine, Hock's body still feels fresh, and, with his deal now done, the English international feels invigorated about his move.
''I'm looking forward to the challenge,'' Hock said. ''I feel really good this year. Having a couple of years off gave my body a rest, so I'm fresh.'' He described the suspension, which ended in 2011, as ''probably the lowest moment of my life''.
''I was going good at that time,'' he said. ''I was playing for England. But I got a lot of help off Wigan, they stuck by me. Other clubs might dump you, but Wigan obviously knew that I'd been there since I was a kid, and seen what qualities I had in me.

''I kept training for two years. If I didn't do that, I think it would have been hard to come back from what I'd been through. It was just a stupid mistake. I was young. But I've put it all behind me. I'm focusing on my rugby now. I'm just training hard and playing hard. I'm enjoying my life and enjoying my rugby.''
The NRL has long been a goal. In fact, a move almost became a reality several times earlier. Hock said Penrith approached him about a move prior to his suspension, while Canberra called as his ban was nearing its end.
Having been to Australia on several occasions with his national team, he was struck by the lifestyle, the crowds, and of course the competition that is now home to a growing number of imports.
''It's always been in my mind in the seniors,'' Hock said. ''I still feel good, so I thought I'd have a bit of a crack at it for next year. It's just the kind of rugby that … I want to play against the best players in the world. It's a challenge of mine, what I've always wanted to do. I think it will suit my kind of rugby overall. I'm looking forward to it.''
He has played under Souths coach Michael Maguire at Wigan, and is seeking advice regularly from teammates and opponents. After his Widnes side (he is on loan from Wigan) played Wakefield over the weekend, he spoke to former Eel Tim Smith about the NRL. He is also good friends with Adrian Morley, who was a success under Ricky Stuart at Sydney Roosters.
''Everyone's talked good about it,'' Hock said. ''It's making me want to get there even more.''
If Hock had it his way, he would be facing Penrith on Monday night, as his future teammates will do. The original plan had been for Hock to be playing at Parramatta this season, but Wigan and the Eels could not agree to a transfer fee. He was subsequently loaned to Widnes following a fall-out with Wigan coach Shaun Wane.
''It was my choice to leave [to Widnes],'' Hock said. ''I didn't get on with the coach, so I asked to leave. I just didn't get on with the guy. It's just between me and him.''
He will be joined at Parramatta by his former Wigan teammate Lee Mossop, who he said would bring ''a lot of go-forward, and defence''. ''He's a big unit, and he's quite fit for a prop. He plays a lot of minutes,'' Hock said.
Both are motivated by the likes of the Burgess brothers and James Graham, and Morley before them.
''All the English lads seem to have done well,'' Hock said. ''I'm going to come out and give it my all, and hopefully tread the same path that they have done.''
 

Stagger eel

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Not getting my point? Just saying Everyone else was super excited that after we signed Sandow he stepped up his level of play for Souths just like Norman has but when he got here the form didn't carry over. So I warn people not to get too excited.

Yes, anything can happen next year when he's playing with a different team but in all fairness to sandow he was behind the worst forward pack in the comp, our 1 had an ordinary season and didn't play for half a year and was under a coaching staff that struggled all year, I really don't think he was as bad as people are making out but if you removed kris keating and put him in a bulldogs jersey they may well of beaten Melbourne in the gf last year.
 

Utey

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Cheers for the run down Gronk.

Aggression, we've lacked it for a long time. Dean Pay?
 

Utey

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True, but before then? Obviously the style of defence has changed due to the speed of the ruck and the wrestle, but aggression is important! Hock has good line speed too.
 

Ratchy

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about Norman playing fullback for us (Broncos), the coach is playing him there because of his ball playing ability, Hoffman is a great ball runner and very reliable catcher but he lacks the ball playing ability that Norman has and to be honest in the past when he has played 5/8 for us he has looked rubbish

I think having his game simplified and he knows exactly what his options are has seen him improve out of sight, or the big cash incentive on offer at Parra, not sure which :lol:

BS...Norman is playing fullback because of Prince being signed in a desperate move by an under pressure coach. Tried to keep everyone happy which it was never going to do.
 

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With sandow Norman and Hayne all representing talented players in our spine, hooker is the obvious weakness there.

If Kelly is destined to have a crack there, whether at 9 or 14, do you think he should have some time there this year?


That makes sense. But if Kelly plays hooker, Ben Roberts has to play five-eight - and that doesn't make sense.
 

lingard

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ben roberts wont be in f**king cooee of parramatta come 2014.


True. But we're talking about giving Kelly a go at hooker this year. And that would mean Roberts playing five-eight this year. Which would not be a wise move, I think.
 

blaza88z

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you're generalizing, any coach who could have had our youth running like they were early last year is a capable type

I never said I wanted him sacked

if you want to discuss a desperate coach, we can, I am open to the discussion
 

Ratchy

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Mate there were rumours floating around in the first month of the season that the Broncos wanted Bennett back as a coaching director to guide a former player....i heard it more than once on radio stations, even to the point where Ikin was asked in an interview......desperate coach = signing a 30+ player who had his worst season!!!
 

blaza88z

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to be honest Bennett will always be apart of Brisbane even if he is going around loading up his bank for clubs who will pay anything to win a premiership so anytime Bennett is off contract or there is any sort of speculation he isn't happy with circumstances then of course he is going to be linked with the club which he spent 20 years at

Prince is no doubt getting on and is well past his best but in our current setup he can still chime in and add some experience to our younger squad, especially in the halves, outside of Wallace we have f**k all experience in the halves, well we did until Prince came along and to be quite honest about it he really fell into our lap as his negotiations with the Titans fell apart and we were in a situation where Norman had a poor season in the halves, I mean he signed in the off season, not like we threw the bank at him either
 

blaza88z

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that's what I meant, he wanted a longer contract, they didn't want to give him that contract, it fell apart
 

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