2015 Crowd Watch

[Canard]

How embarrassing . I cant even reply to that line-up, two are taking coke, another two are semi-retired.
I love Luke Bailey, one of my all time favourites bull Bailey, but gee whiz, they are scrapping the bottom of the barrell.

I am embarrassed that the Titans have a line-up the womens sowing club would have trouble finding spots for.

How was your holiday Canard. ? Get any vitamin D. Maybe too much,

So players taking Coke is the Salary Caps problem now?

Anyone Im not going to respond to another Oikee post for at least a week (small steps).

 

[oikee]

Yes grease.

That is a shame Canard, i was looking forward to giving you my Friday price report on stadium food .

Oh well,,,,,,catch ya next week.

 

[papabear]

The titans got in at the expense of the bears.

Do you genuinely believe that the bears would offer less to rugby league then what the titans do?

 

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The titans got in at the expense of the bears.

Do you genuinely believe that the bears would offer less to rugby league then what the titans do?

Yes!

 

[papabear]

the councils of
North Sydney
Willoughby
Kuringgai
Hornsby
Hills
Then all of the central coast.....

So much money and population in their its ridiculous. In money and population it would have the potential to be a Parramatta or souths if they could get their shit together.

But no we get the titans.... a tourist slum.

 

[Canard]

The titans got in at the expense of the bears.

Do you genuinely believe that the bears would offer less to rugby league then what the titans do?

Everyone keeps saying that, but I remember no mention of the Bears whatsoever at the time of the Titans admission.

But strategically the Gold Coast is very important to Rugby League. Just on one

The NRL can't forecast them being run into the ground, and who is to say the Bears wouldn't for some reason be a similar poorly run organisation?

 

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the councils of
North Sydney
Willoughby
Kuringgai
Hornsby
Hills
Then all of the central coast.....

So much money and population in their its ridiculous. In money and population it would have the potential to be a Parramatta or souths if they could get their shit together.

But no we get the titans.... a tourist slum.

The area the Titans can service is still very large & far and away more valuable strategically considering how many sides are already in NSW.

Adding more teams into NSW is crazy.

 

[insert.pause]

Everyone keeps saying that, but I remember no mention of the Bears whatsoever at the time of the Titans admission.

But strategically the Gold Coast is very important to Rugby League.

The NRL can't forecast them being run into the ground, and who is to say the Bears wouldn't for some reason be a similar poorly run organisation?

considering the CC economy over the last few years it's fair to say they would be having their own share of problems.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

the councils of
North Sydney
Willoughby
Kuringgai
Hornsby
Hills
Then all of the central coast.....

So much money and population in their its ridiculous. In money and population it would have the potential to be a Parramatta or souths if they could get their shit together.

Manly or Easts could easily steward these areas...

 

[Rodney]

the councils of
North Sydney
Willoughby
Kuringgai
Hornsby
Hills
Then all of the central coast.....

So much money and population in their its ridiculous. In money and population it would have the potential to be a Parramatta or souths if they could get their shit together.

But no we get the titans.... a tourist slum.

Think about what percentage of those people would identify as living on the Central Coast.
Hills shire neighbors Parramatta, nowhere near the coast.
Hornsby is closer to Manly, not on the coast.
There's the two big population bases.

North Sydney fans might go to the NSO game but are they going to travel an hour up the coast week in week out for games?
Willoughby is in the middle of Manly and the city proper, nowhere near gosford.
Kurungai is closer to the Sydney teams than gosford.
Unless there's some old bears fans living here the support these areas provide is minimal.

The Central Coast is effectively Brooklyn to Lake Macquarie.
Minus the brand value it'd be a team representing a similar population to the Steelers.

 

[papabear]

Think about what percentage of those people would identify as living on the Central Coast.
Hills shire neighbors Parramatta, nowhere near the coast.
Hornsby is closer to Manly, not on the coast.
There's the two big population bases.

North Sydney fans might go to the NSO game but are they going to travel an hour up the coast week in week out for games?
Willoughby is in the middle of Manly and the city proper, nowhere near gosford.
Kurungai is closer to the Sydney teams than gosford.
Unless there's some old bears fans living here the support these areas provide is minimal.

The Central Coast is effectively Brooklyn to Lake Macquarie.
Minus the brand value it'd be a team representing a similar population to the Steelers.

Yet hills junior footy is run by Norths. Though the hills have a fair few parra fans they would still identify themselves as north of Sydney part of the northwest certainly not Parramatta which is due west.

Hornsby is due north and definitely relates more to a north club.
Kuringai - see above
Willoughby - I live in the Willoughby shire, maybe ten minutes to north Sydney and 30 minutes to manly (on a good day).

saying easts or manly could easily service this areas, is the same argument that could be said about any club, same argument could be made about Brisbane and the gold coast.

 

[Rodney]

Yet hills junior footy is run by Norths. Though the hills have a fair few parra fans they would still identify themselves as north of Sydney part of the northwest certainly not Parramatta which is due west.

Hornsby is due north and definitely relates more to a north club.
Kuringai - see above
Willoughby - I live in the Willoughby shire, maybe ten minutes to north Sydney and 30 minutes to manly (on a good day).

saying easts or manly could easily service this areas, is the same argument that could be said about any club, same argument could be made about Brisbane and the gold coast.

Running the juniors is one thing, converting these areas to fans is another.
Especially the hills region.
Are the people of Kellyville, Baulkham Hills or Rouse Hill going to travel 2 or 3 hours for a bears home game in Gosford
or 30 minutes to an hour down windsor road to parramatta?

If the Bears played out of NSO fair enough it'd be (sort of) manageable, but they are supposed to move to an hour out of the city.

The Roosters now control large portions of the junior comps in Gosford, but that dosen't mean that any significant portion will become roosters fans.
Even now that they're playing 1 game a year out of that stadium they're likely to remain a moderately popular team which hasn't got the support Wests, the Knights or Manly have up there.

The only way you'd seriously count all those Sydney regions as potential Bears hotspots is if the Bears went JV and split the games between the CC and a central North Sydney stadium (around Hornsby would be ideal).

 

[Sydney Knight]

Yet hills junior footy is run by Norths. Though the hills have a fair few parra fans they would still identify themselves as north of Sydney part of the northwest certainly not Parramatta which is due west.

Hornsby is due north and definitely relates more to a north club.
Kuringai - see above
Willoughby - I live in the Willoughby shire, maybe ten minutes to north Sydney and 30 minutes to manly (on a good day).

saying easts or manly could easily service this areas, is the same argument that could be said about any club, same argument could be made about Brisbane and the gold coast.

Bears juniors only control a small portion of the Hills. The bigger clubs are all in the Parra JL

 

[Perth Red]

People say the nrl made a poor decision re Bears v Titans but look at the facts they based that decision on:
Stadium: Titans
Big money backer: Titans
Population: Titans
Nsw or q'land saturation: Titans
AFL risk: Titans

By pretty much any criteria Titans come out on top of decision making. Gallop didn't get much right but the decision between gosford or GC was a no brainer that even he couldn't get wrong.

 

[Timmah]

considering the CC economy over the last few years it's fair to say they would be having their own share of problems.

Maybe - but there's no denying CC has long been a league town. Given GC has failed thrice and is now on the edge for it's 3rd go...

Hornsby is closer to Manly, not on the coast.
Kurungai is closer to the Sydney teams than gosford.

Can see some merit in your post but these two items above are nowhere near true. They might be physically (i.e. straight line distance) closer... but travel time, both are closer to Gosford. 25-30 mins max from the end of the M1 to Gosford, fair whack more than that end of M1 to either Manly or the City.

People say the nrl made a poor decision re Bears v Titans but look at the facts they based that decision on:
Stadium: Titans
Big money backer: Titans
Population: Titans
Nsw or q'land saturation: Titans
AFL risk: Titans

By pretty much any criteria Titans come out on top of decision making. Gallop didn't get much right but the decision between gosford or GC was a no brainer that even he couldn't get wrong.

Huh?
Stadium - CC already had one. GC had to lobby for one.
Big money backer - CC had f**king John Singleton.
Population - hadn't sustained it three times before, why would it now?
NSW or QLD saturation - Titans yes
AFL risk - wasn't really a consideration then, but also goes to Titans.

Not sure how you arrived at some of the above :/

 

[Diesel]

Only 3 days to go til kick off so there must be pax around already for games this weekend, expecting bumper crowds.

Suncorp should be 43-45K easy

 

[Perth Red]

Huh?
Stadium - CC already had one. GC had to lobby for one.
Big money backer - CC had f**king John Singleton.
Population - hadn't sustained it three times before, why would it now?
NSW or QLD saturation - Titans yes
AFL risk - wasn't really a consideration then, but also goes to Titans.

Not sure how you arrived at some of the above :/

Stadium: Brand new 27,000 v Gosford which has 3 sides and 20k capacity Money backer: Darryl Kelly richer than Singleton
Population: cough cough Northern Eagles. Failure of the past is no guarantee of failure in the future
AFL: Made noises of relocating a club to GC back in the 90's. On probability it was likely to be a future location for AFL for a second Qland club.

I'm not saying Bears didnt tick any boxes, they certainly did, but when you lined up the two bids there was only ever likely to be one winner. Sadly the Bears learnt nothing from it and rather than working with the NRL to relocate to a prime bid area have continued to flog the dead CC Bears horse meaning more disappointment in the next expansion round.

 

[Rodney]

Can see some merit in your post but these two items above are nowhere near true. They might be physically (i.e. straight line distance) closer... but travel time, both are closer to Gosford. 25-30 mins max from the end of the M1 to Gosford, fair whack more than that end of M1 to either Manly or the City.

Maybe if you start from Mt. Kurungai you could get Quicker to Gosford than Brookvale, but Hornsby is definitely closer to Manly.

Once you get to Mt Kurungai it gets 50-50 whether its easier to get to a Brookvale or ANZ or to Bluetongue.

There isn't usually much traffic and your pretty much working against it in every possible way when getting into the city from the North on a Weekend after Midday.

Either way your still at least half an hour outside Gosford and the area isn't usually packaged into the Central Coast in a traditional sense.
CC may be the closest team, but they're too far out to call the area a catchment imo.

They could get carried on the brand alone like Souths but I think if they were to be admitted they'd be like the Sharks or Steelers.
Dosen't mean they'll never get in, but they're well down the pecking order.

 

[alien]

Running the juniors is one thing, converting these areas to fans is another.
Especially the hills region.
Are the people of Kellyville, Baulkham Hills or Rouse Hill going to travel 2 or 3 hours for a bears home game in Gosford
or 30 minutes to an hour down windsor road to parramatta?

If the Bears played out of NSO fair enough it'd be (sort of) manageable, but they are supposed to move to an hour out of the city.

The Roosters now control large portions of the junior comps in Gosford, but that dosen't mean that any significant portion will become roosters fans.
Even now that they're playing 1 game a year out of that stadium they're likely to remain a moderately popular team which hasn't got the support Wests, the Knights or Manly have up there.

The only way you'd seriously count all those Sydney regions as potential Bears hotspots is if the Bears went JV and split the games between the CC and a central North Sydney stadium (around Hornsby would be ideal).

i'm pretty sure Kellyville, Baulkham Hills and Rouse Hill would be parra's territory, even if north sydney were still in the comp. if bears came back and played half of their home games in the north sydney area, the best location for a new stadium would be around chatswood

 

[Raiderdave]

Only 3 days to go til kick off so there must be pax around already for games this weekend, expecting bumper crowds.

Suncorp should be 43-45K easy

if you're expecting .. bumper ... crowds this weekend you're gunna be disappointed

apart from Thursday night the rest of the round is being played in smaller venues & while I think these will be well patronised
they won't be bumper attendances

Broncos V Souths 40-42,000
Parra V Manly 16-18,000
Newc V Warriors 16-18,000
Titans V Tigers 12-14,000
Cowboys V Roosters 15-17,000
Penrith V Bulldogs 13-15,000
Sharks V Raiders 12-14,000
Dragons V Storm 11-13,000

somewhere between 135 & 151K for the round