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2015 Draft chatter - All thoughts, rumours and analysis

Eddie Lab

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Compensatory Picks:

These picks are determined at the league's annual meeting before the draft and are given to teams that in the previous year's free agency period have lost more or better free agent players than they gained.
This highly confidential formula, created by the NFL Management Council, is based on players' salaries, playing time, post-season awards, and the net amount of free agents lost versus free agents signed.
The maximum amount of picks any team can gain is 4 and they cannot be traded.

So yes, people are guessing. Really comes down to how they do with there free agents, do they resign them? Did they play a lot etc.

cheers. so glad we didn't re sign Mike Mitchell now. potential 5th round pick and don't have to pay him 25 million. his agent deserves a medal for getting that much from the Steelers.
 

nick87

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i was super keen on the Eagles getting Mike Mitchell... boy i am i glad we didnt
I was also a bit ho hum on Jenkins, and he was one of the best buys of the year
 

Big Mick

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Phillip Dorsett is one of my favourite WR's.

Just ridiculous playmaking ability.

He'll go 3rd-4th round and be at very least a good #2.
 

DC_fan

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Scout’s Eye: More Notes From Senior Bowl Practices; Standouts From North Team

IRVING, Texas – We’re back from the Reese’s Senior Bowl practices in Mobile, Ala., but I’ve only just begun to break down the prospects we watched there.

Here are some of my refined impressions from watching the North squad practice this week. I’ll have notes on the South squad on Friday.

  • As this draft process starts out, keep an eye on Stanford’s defensive end, Henry Anderson. He wasn’t a player that was initially on my radar before I made the trip to Mobile, but after studying his work from the practices, I have to admit he got my attention.
  • At 6-6, 287, he might be more of an end in a 3-4 defense than an edge rusher in a 4-3. But what I liked about the player was his ability to come off the ball and use his hands to control the blocker. There were several snaps in the one-on-one pass rush drills where he was able to fire those hands inside, grab the blocker and disengage to get up the field. Anderson also plays with some surprising power to the point where he is driving the blocker back into the quarterback.
    He managed to play this way with Jamal Douglas and Robert Myers when they tried to sit down on him. Later in the drill, Anderson lined up on the outside shoulder of center Max Garcia and quickly beat him to his snapping hand to gain a pressure. There were no negative plays from him in the opportunities that I saw.
  • My experience in going to these Senior Bowl practices tells me that there will be times when coaches would like to see a player move from his natural, college position to one that might better suit him in the NFL game.
  • Last year, Michael Sam worked as an outside linebacker and it didn’t go well for him in that look. This year there are a couple of different players that fit this bill in Auburn quarterback Nick Marshall at corner and Harvard’s Zack Hodges at outside linebacker.
  • The player I want to focus on is Hodges, who played as a defensive end for the Crimson. At 6-2, 245, he might not have the ideal weight as, say Nate Orchard or Markus Golden, but in studying his game tape from Harvard he can bring the same amount of pressure off the edge. I was surprised by how well Hodges was able to move in space while dropping in coverage but also how well he reacted out of the drop.
  • The only fault that I observed in his coverage was there was a lack of feel in the way he covered, and what I mean is when the receiver took him up the field he just wasn’t near enough to feel when the receiver was breaking the route off. This is more about a lack of experience than it was bad technique. I could see a team using Hodges as a strong side linebacker in a base defense, then having him put his hand on the ground and rush out of the nickel.
  • During these North practices there was plenty of focus on Miami-Ohio’s cornerback Quintin Rollins, and rightfully so -- but the smart scouts also had an eye on Quandre Diggs out of Texas. At 5-9, 196, might not have the ideal height, but he is extremely solid at that weight. What caught my attention was the way that Diggs was able to, no matter what receiver he was covering, keep an ideal position. Diggs was able to carry receivers not only on the outside, but there was a snap or two where he shifted inside and ran with the receiver out of the slot.
  • In the one-on-one period with the receivers, the offensive coaches tried to hit him on a vertical “9” route with Devin Smith, but he was able to stay with him and later in the period they tested him across the field and not only did he play the route well but was able to knock the ball away.
  • I am looking forward to getting the opportunity of studying Diggs’ work from his season with the Longhorns to determine where he falls on this board. First impressions were very good.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...es-senior-bowl-practices-standouts-north-team
 
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DC_fan

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Scout’s Eye: Notes And Standouts From The South Squad At The Senior Bowl

Friday, January 23, 2015 7:04 PM CST

By Bryan Broaddus
Football Analyst/Scout

@BryanBroaddus

IRVING, Texas – Yesterday, I examined the standouts from the North roster at the Reese’s Senior Bowl down in Mobile, Ala. Today, I’m taking a look at what we saw from the South squad.

  • There was once a day in NFL draft rooms across the country where if a scout brought up a receiver that measured less than 5-9 in height, he was given a stern look from the general manager and talk quickly moved on to the next player.
  • What we have seen with the evolution of the NFL passing game is that it is more about the matchups on the outside, which has allowed these smaller college receivers the opportunity to affect the way the game is played. A great example of a player in this draft is Tyler Lockett of Kansas State. Lockett is a tick over 5-9 in height and there is nothing impressive about his features for the position, but in watching him practice this week, he plays like a much bigger player.
    I don’t believe I saw him drop a ball that was thrown in his direction and that says a lot because of the quarterbacks that he was dealing with. He is an explosive route runner that can quickly eat cushion as he gets up the field. He puts a ton of pressure on the corner because not only can he run by them, but he can also come to a complete stop and change direction in a heartbeat to buy space. In these practices he showed the ability to not only play out of the slot but on the outside as well -- in case teams had questions about that.
  • While I am on the subject of short players, another one that caught my eye is Grady Jarrett of Clemson. Jarrett measured at almost 6-0 and a solid 288 pounds. If there is a player that I could compare him to in the NFL, he is a poor man’s Aaron Donald of the Rams.

    Both Donald and Jarrett have that explosive first step coming off the ball that gets them into the backfield quickly. Where Donald has the advantage over Jarrett is his ability to finish the play, but that’s not to say that Jarrett struggles in this area. There were several snaps in these practices where Jarrett quickly beat the center or guard’s block and was on his feet working toward the ball.
    His ability to redirect on a play was quite impressive and he was a handful to block, whether it was in the one-on-one pass rush drills or the Team periods. He plays with impressive upper body power and strength. He’s a fit for a 4-3 team that wants to play him as an under-tackle in a rotating system.
  • One of the many wonderful things that the Senior Bowl selection staff does is bring players from all levels of college football to compete this week. One of the really good stories from the South squad is Lynden Trail of Norfolk State. Trail began his career at Florida with Urban Meyer, but he transferred to Norfolk after the 2010 season. At 6-6, 262 pounds, Trail physically isn’t one of your normal outside linebackers due to the way that he rushes the passer -- which is impressive at this size.
    Where he got my attention during these practices was when he went against the running backs in the one-on-one pass rushing drills. There were moves that he was able to make that much smaller, quicker linebackers wish they had. Instead of just trying to play with straight power and run over them, he was able to move his entire body with some fluidity. By attacking the blockers this way, he was able to get them off balance, then with a quick arm over, move right past them.
    In college he played as a 3-4 rush linebacker and that was clear because when he was asked to drop in coverage, he didn’t appear as comfortable. He could play as a 3-4 linebacker on the strong side, but I think he is better suited to play as a 4-3 end on the left side and let him use those rush skills but also take things on in the running game. The fact that he started his career at Florida tells me a lot about the player and what he could develop into.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/01/23/scout’s-eye-notes-and-standouts-south-squad-senior-bowl
 

abpanther

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I liked David Johnson a little better

Also, all the QBs in the Senior Bowl were awful, Grayson probably the least awful
 

DC_fan

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Senior Bowl Recap: Creating a Line-up from Senior Bowl prospects

by Steve Shoup

To recap the Senior Bowl week (Game plus practices) I thought i would create a line-up with starters and key back-ups at every position. There will be a few extra "starters" given how teams use various offensive and defensive packages.
QB: starter- Garrett Grayson, back-up- Bryce Petty

-Not much to say here for the quarterbacks as none of them were great. Grayson had some issues, but was probably the most consistent QB of the week. Petty was inconsistent but may have the most talent of the bunch. Honestly though it is tough to consider any of these guys before the 4th round (and even then that is a push).
RB: starter- David Cobb, back-up: David Johnson, 3rd down back- Ameer Abdullah, Fullback- Tyler Varga

-A lot of good running back talent down here. Cobb was the most complete back of the week. He's not a game breaker, but he is a guy who will keep the chains moving. Johnson had a similar week and a similar skill set though maybe a bit more athletic. If you do want a game breaker, Abdullah is your guy and he fits perfectly in a 3rd down back type of role. If you are a team looking for a playmaker who can pick up chunks of yards both on the ground and through the air, Abullah is your guy. He's not a guy who is going to run the ball 17-20 times a game, but 8-10 carries and 4-7 catches a game is where you want him. Varga isn't really a natural fullback, but he played here this week and he showed some nice lead blocking ability as well as some rushing ability. He's a guy you want on your team and will help you in a variety of ways.
TE: starter- Clive Walford, back-up- Nick Boyle

-Walford and Boyle were clearly the top two tight ends down here this week. both are all around players who can help as in line blockers and are quality receivers as well. Walford has more athleticism and is a guy who could even split out in a Joker role.
WR: starters- Tony Lippett, Phillip Dorsett, slot receiver- Tyler Lockett, back-ups: Dezmin Lewis and Jamison Crowder

-Lippett, Dorsett and Lockett all had really strong weeks and it was pretty clear they were the most consistent receivers down here (though there were a number of solid guys). Dorsett and Lockett are guys with great speed who are playmakers. Lippett brings a good size/speed combo and is a very good route runner. As for the back-ups small school Dez Lewis really impressed this week and he's a guy who has a ton of upside. He should find his way into the top 125 picks and could be a riser to watch. Crowder is undersized, but all he did was catch the ball and make plays this week. His size will limit his draft stock, but he will get a shot on the third day to be a slot receiver special teamer.
Offensive tackle: starters- La'el Collins and Rob Havenstein, back-up-Ali Marpet (better as a guard though)

-Collins had an up-and-down practice week, but played much better in the game. I still think he is similar to a Zack Martin or Joel Bitonio from a year ago where he could play LT and probably be above average there or he could kick inside to guard and quickly become elite. Either way he's a good football player and a guy who should go in the top half of the first round. Havenstein is a guy who won't come close to going in the first round, but day-in-day out he proved he could play at the next level. He probably won't go until the 3rd day, but he had a very good week of practice. Marpet is best suited at guard at the next level and practiced there a lot, but he was listed on the game day program at tackle so I'm fitting him in there. He comes from a small school and played LT there, and could probably back-up the tackle spots as an emergency option at the next level. As a guard though he could be a very good starter as he already has excellent technique and does a great job using leverage.
Offensive guard: starters- Laken Tomlinson and Tre Jackson, back-up- Arie Kouandjio

-Tomlins and Jackson were the best guard from each team and both showed very similar skill sets of strong power, good feet and an ability to anchor. Kouandjjio is another similar offensive guard, but was just a tick behind the rest. All three of these guards should go in the top 75 picks and should quickly become starters.
Center: starter- Max Garcia, back-up: Reese Dismukes

-It was not a strong week for centers, but I thought Max Garcia did the best job of the week. He was a tough blocker and did a nice job anchoring against Danny Shelton. He doesn't have the best prospect status, but expect his name to be called sometime during the 3rd day of the draft. Reese Dismukes is thought to be the top center in the class though based on this week he hasn't played up to that level. He was much better in the game and that definitely helped some, but he needs to do a better job anchoring vs power.
Defensive end: starters- Preston Smith and Owamagbe Odighizuwa, back-up- Henry Anderson

-Now most edge rushers lined up as outside linebackers this week so we didn't see as much of them. With a weaker slate of ends, Preston Smith really looked the best of the bunch. He excelled at both pass rush and run defense drills and did so without much in the way of refined technique. He's a guy that NFL teams will look at as a guy who can get solid production now, but if they really develop him he could become a very good starter. Odighizuwa got a lot of hype this week from a lot of people and some of it was deserved. For me I saw a solid-to-good week, but not a lot to really rave about. Odighizuwa is a physical specimen, and there is some potential, but I am not sure if it will ever click with him. Anderson was hit or miss this week. Some reps he got pushed around like he wasn't even there and other reps he looked fantastic. Two things that stuck out for me is he's really only a 5 tech guy, when he lined up in some other sets he got more easily pushed around. Also his pass rush is ahead of his run defense. A lot of times where he lost was in run blocking when he couldn't hold his ground. He may need to be a situational guy early in his career who plays in pass sets, until he gets stronger.
Defensive tackle: starters- Carl Davis and Danny Shelton, back-up- Grady Jarrett

-Between the game and the week of practice Carl Davis was the most dominant defensive tackle. He was quick off the line and extremely disruptive in the back-field. He plays with excellent power as well and can hold his ground even vs a double team. Shelton had the most hype and for most of the practice week he lived up to it, but he did not have a strong game. He was getting handled by offensive guards and centers that didn't even play well during the week. One of the biggest problems with Shelton during the game was he was slow to get off the line. That is a bad trait to have as a defensive tackle and it can lead to you losing the leverage battle. Shelton is still a really good prospect, but the game raised some concerns. For the back-up spot it came down to either Grady Jarrett or Gabe Wright, both had strong weeks, but Jarrett's was slightly better so he gets the nod.
Outside linebacker: starter- Lyden Trail and Nate Orchard, back-up- Hau'oli Kikaha

-Trail had one of the best weeks of any player as he showed a complete range of skills (including some offensive ones). He's a raw guy, but the upside is there so teams will be highly intrigued with him. He might not go as high as some of the other guys in the draft, but the upside is there for him to be very good at the next level. Orchard followed up his break-out senior year with a really strong week of practice. He needs to work on coverage and run defense more, but he showed up where it mattered most; rushing the passer. He was relentless throughout the week and would have had a number of pressures/sacks if they were live game situations. Kikaha had a similar week to Orchard, but I felt he was slightly behind him. Still he's a very good rusher and should go in the top 50 picks.
Inside linebacker: starters- Denzel Perryman and Stephone Anthony, back-up- Hayes Pullard

-This was one of the toughest groups to decide. Perryman for me was the best ILB coming in and though his practice time was cut short I think he flashed that talent when he was on the field. Anthony was the best ILB who played throughout the week and he shows up as a very violent hitter with good instincts. Pullard I thought had a solid week, though he didn't do anything extra flashy that really made him stand out. He also didn't do anything really negative either.
Cornerback: starters- Josh Shaw and Ladarius Gunter, slot corner- Kevin White, back-ups- Quinten Rollins and Eric Rowe

-For me Josh Shaw had a great week of practice at corner for the North team. He's physical at the line and doesn't allow receivers to get a free release. When he's in off coverage he can still run with the top receivers and he does a nice job playing the football. The best corner on the South team was Kevin White who probably could play outside in a number of schemes but fits well here as the slot corner. For the other starter corner I thought Gunter from Miami had a really strong week. He's another big corner who can run pretty well. A number of the north receivers mentioned him as one of the tougher guys to face this week (Shaw was another guy who got a lot of mentions), and you could see how he competed throughout the week. For the back-ups I went with the high upside Rollins and the utility guy Rowe. Rollins has a ton of potential, but he's still raw overall, Rowe I actually like more of as a safety, but he's another who can be physical off the line and match-up vs bigger receivers.
Safety: starters- Cody Prewitt and Jaquiski Tartt, back-up- Clayton Geathers

-This is an all South line-up as I felt their safety play was superior this week as a whole. Prewitt was the best all-around safety down here, and Tartt has excellent size and the potential to be an in the box safety (and great special teamer) at the next level. Geathers strong week as well and shows the versatility to play either safety spot. North teamers Kurtis Drummond and Adrian Amos had solid weeks as well and definitely deserve a mention.

http://fanspeak.com/nfldraft/2015/01/25/senior-bowl-recap-creating-line-senior-bowl-prospects/
 

Tom155

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some good highlight videos from a few different guys

Leonard Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg17pcORq6w

Landon Collins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pl6_FcMQfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrewHLPO1b8

Amari Cooper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjHOM1TW1xA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3X3h8p-_Xo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDfEiahBWEo

Kevin White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpNVPq2XUKo

Brett Hundley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-V_AbmAn0

Marcus Mariota
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9bP5ZAkWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4UW3aGYxfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uQZK43XP-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oELegNr9Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt-FqOKyxi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14YRXtdFAVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSDhuJByrMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1_ueV9iMno

Jameis Winston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCG9mnu2aEA

Phillip Dorsett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZatnTkhT8Q

Trae Waynes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGqHUi6ZsWM

Ameer Abdullah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygW5Y_k6PLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmaYepHFcXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmxCFTm887w

Clive Walford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bLnONf66R4

Maxx Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoDbh6AxINY

Jay Ajayi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPm4Ces6yo0

Dante Fowler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbYyVTTtnRc

Bud Dupree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlAayCoZrR8

Nate Orchard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT-PL_9mWkY

Markus Golden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGLilrHbwUc
 
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Tom155

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Malcolm Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hZPugCCguU

Danny Shelton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjSO21zK5EQ

Karl Joseph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38klNRdgtRg

Hau'oli Kikaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnB0KrxTS1s

Shane Ray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mg63-fD9BM

Shaq Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GCQkojrLT4

Rashad Greene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnT8JX-Z78

Bryce Petty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5cchkUBAKo

Justin Hardy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT6NDPmHJ_c

Garrett Grayson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSZz0Sg8qMs

Davante Parker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NtiCoqD6sQ

Melvin Gordon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4GcJln_gM

Randy Gregory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BREHTXuUA

Eddie Goldman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaukT9hThBg

Jaelen Strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDRL8WfzBro

PJ Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoFytl0UvaE

Nelson Aglohor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UTj9WNfDrc

Denzel Perryman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beChRWODiSI

Chris Hackett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SosNsGI00Rg

Ladarius Gunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMkJ_L5gD1Y

Eric Kendricks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x24S4ce1h3s

Devin Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJoIcwZD1Po

Gerod Holliman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPktF5oA0kw

Ifo Ekpre-Olumu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcui8k0DLMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xWp9Ny3SQ

TJ Yeldon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCptmOwPGJo

Duke Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b28giB9m7Cs
 
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nick87

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Mock drafts starting to move Mariota down the board. Bucky Brooks has him going @13 to the Saints now. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with him from here.
 

Haffa

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Mock drafts starting to move Mariota down the board. Bucky Brooks has him going @13 to the Saints now. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with him from here.

Sam Bradford and a few picks is all it takes on Draft Day hopefully. :pray:
 

Eddie Lab

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comp picks released

Round Pick Team

3 97 New England
3 98 Kansas City
3 99 Cincinnati

4 132 San Francisco
4 133 Denver
4 134 Seattle
4 135 Cincinnati
4 136 Baltimore

5 169 Carolina
5 170 Seattle
5 171 Baltimore
5 172 Kansas City
5 173 Kansas City
5 174 Houston
5 175 Baltimore

6 208 Denver
6 209 Seattle
6 210 Green Bay
6 211 Houston
6 212 Green Bay
6 213 Carolina
6 214 Seattle
6 215 St. Louis
6 216 Houston
6 217 Kansas City

7 250 Denver
7 251 Denver
7 252 Pittsburg
7 253 New England
7 254 San Fran
7 255 Indianapolis
7 256 Arizona
 

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