2015 Draft chatter - All thoughts, rumours and analysis

[nick87]

Funchess as a first rounder? not sure about it!
But otherwise nothing that stands out

 

[DC_fan]

I am not so sure about Jones at #27 to the Cowboys. Has the size, speed and stats to say he is a first rounder. He has played against lesser opposition. He may go in the first round I believe he is a second rounder.

 

[shiznit]

I get the feeling that if Leonard Williams does fall to us at #4 we will take him and probably trade back in to the first round to grab that WR we need.

We're picking 3rd in the 2nd round so I reckon we maybe able to wrangle something...

 

[Eddie Lab]

what are you most afraid of that your team is either rumored or potentially could do in the first round? also what player do you want to avoid the most?

personally I'm worried that the Panthers will reach for an OT in the first or trade up for a player. just stick pick 25 and go with BPA.

stay away from Todd Gurley(if he falls that far). injured RB? already have Jstew to fill that roll.

 

[shiznit]

My biggest fear is missing out on one of these good recievers.


Maybe we take Leonard Williams and 5 or 6 recievers get taken in the first round and we end up with Crabtree as our No 1 guy.

 

[nick87]

My biggest fear is reaching and that Marcus Smith II was a Chip Kelly pick and not a Roseman pick.
Apparently Chip wanted Matthews in round 1 last year and Howie had to convince him to take someone else because we could get Matthews in the 2nd. Chip confessed he wanted Taylor Hart in round 3, but Howie convinced him he'd get him in round 5, and did.

So im worried about Chip not understanding value in the draft and reaching.

In terms of player, im worried about Arik Armstead, I dont HATE him as a player, but i dont like him and our front 7 is really strong, we have too many needs at WR, DB and OL to waste a first round pick on a Duck that's not a need.

 

[shiznit]

I find Armstead really interesting... I think at the moment he's more of a projection pick than anything...

Based on his measurables,.. He hits the mark in nearly every aspect... But you look at his production and you scratch your head.

Id be happy using an early 2nd on him...

 

[abpanther]

FFS why is everyone giving us Armstead? That would be horrible!!

Pro Football Focus lists the following four defensive linemen as "buyer beware," saying that they may be overdrafted for potential that has not yet shown itself on the field:

Carl Davis
Eddie Goldman
Arik Armstead
Gabe Wright

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/14/cff-overview-di-buyer-beware/

 

[abpanther]

Check out La'el Collins with the triple stack!!

 

[abpanther]

Gotta say College Football Focus is a really good site for those looking to get good information on prospects, all gradings are based on watching every play that player played in as opposed to many that just base their evaluations from highlights plays.

Even teams are approaching CFF as potential suitors

 

[nick87]

Check out La'el Collins with the triple stack!!

Hahah thats awesome. I really like him as a future LT. He's inconsistant but when he flashes it's as dominate as any LT in college football

 

[abpanther]

I've spent a lot of time (way too much according to my wife haha) watching draft breakdown videos on over 200 prospects. The draft breakdown videos are great as they show every play a player was involved in during a game, not just the highlights. Really gives you a much better idea of what kind of prospect they are.

Anyway, here is my final top 50 list:

1. WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
2. OG Brandon Scherff, Iowa
3. OG La’el Collins, LSU
4. RB Todd Gurley, Georgia
5. DL Danny Shelton, Washington
6. WR Kevin White, West Virginia
7. CB Marcus Peters, Washington
8. EDGE Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA
9. DL Leonard Williams, USC
10. EDGE Vic Beasley, Clemson
11. QB Jameis Winston, Florida State
12. OT Jake Fisher, Oregon
13. OT Andrus Peat, Stanford
14. EDGE Dante Fowler, Florida
15. WR DeVante Parker, Louisville
16. OC Cameron Erving, Florida State
17. OT D.J. Humphries, Florida
18. WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida
19. DL Henry Anderson, Stanford
20. DL Malcom Brown, Texas
21. CB Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
22. QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon State
23. OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
24. WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
25. WR Nelson Agholor, USC
26. DL Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
27. Non-Rush LB Eric Kendricks, UCLA
28. EDGE Randy Gregory, Nebraska
29. RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana
30. RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
31. OT Ereck Flowers, Miami
32. OG A.J. Cann, South Carolina
33. CB Ronald Darby, Florida State
34. CB Byron Jones, Connecticut
35. SAF Landon Collins, Alabama
36. EDGE Nate Orchard, Utah
37. WR Tre McBride, William & Mary
38. CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State
39. TE Clive Walford, Miami
40. DL Xavier Cooper, Washington State
41. DL Preston Smith, Mississippi State
42. WR Tyler Lockett, Kansas State
43. WR Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
44. WR DeAndre Smelter, Georgia Tech
45. OG Laken Tomlinson, Duke
46. TE Maxx Williams, Minnesota
47. EDGE Shane Ray, Missouri
48. Non-Rush LB Paul Dawson, TCU
49. CB Jalen Collins, Auburn
50. OT T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh

 

[nick87]

I assume that's not in order?

 

[abpanther]

I assume that's not in order?

No it's definitely in order :lol:

 

[abpanther]

I'm higher on Shelton, Peters, Odighizuwa, Anderson, Coleman and Ogbuehi than most

I'm lower on Williams, Fowler, Waynes, Collins, and Ray than most

 

[abpanther]

I mean lets talk about Leonard Williams.

When you guys watch his game film do you see a Suh/McCoy type talent?

I certainly don't, I see a guy who flashes big plays and uses his hands pretty well, but he's not a productive pass rusher, he plays high at times and I'm not sure what his best position is.

I think he has the potential to be a good-great DT but he's certainly not there at the moment. I wouldn't put him ahead of Richard Seymour as a prospect, he's nowhere near that strong coming out of college

 

[shiznit]

Just watched Kevin White on First Take...

He just showed that Amari Cooper is a class above him both on and off the field....

 

[zombie jesus]

Quick and easy draft game to play and score.

Name all the players to go in the first round, you can pick 40 players all up, no particular order or anything, just 40 names and see how many you can get.

 

[abpanther]

Quick and easy draft game to play and score.

Name all the players to go in the first round, you can pick 40 players all up, no particular order or anything, just 40 names and see how many you can get.

Here ya go (in no particular order)

1. DL Leonard Williams, USC
2. WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
3. OG Brandon Scherff, Iowa
4. OG La?el Collins, LSU
5. RB Todd Gurley, Georgia
6. DL Danny Shelton, Washington
7. WR Kevin White, West Virginia
8. CB Marcus Peters, Washington
9. DE/OLB Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA
10. DE/OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
11. QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon State
12. QB Jameis Winston, Florida State
13. OT Jake Fisher, Oregon
14. OT Andrus Peat, Stanford
15. DE/OLB Dante Fowler, Florida
16. WR DeVante Parker, Louisville
17. OC Cameron Erving, Florida State
18. OT D.J. Humphries, Florida
19. WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida
20. DL Henry Anderson, Stanford
21. DL Malcom Brown, Texas
22. CB Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
23. CB Jalen Collins, LSU
24. WR Nelson Agholor, USC
25. WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
26. DL Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
27. LB Eric Kendricks, UCLA
28. DE/OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska
29. RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana
30. RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
31. DL Preston Smith, Mississippi State
32. OT Ereck Flowers, Miami
33. OG A.J. Cann, South Carolina
34. CB Ronald Darby, Florida State
35. CB Byron Jones, Connecticut
36. DE/OLB Nate Orchard, Utah
37. WR Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
38. CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State
39. DE/OLB Shane Ray, Missouri
40. DL Xavier Cooper, Washington State

 

[Tom155]

1. QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon
2. QB Jameis Winston, Florida State
3. RB Todd Gurley, Georgia
4. RB Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
5. WR Kevin White, West Virginia
6. WR Amari Cooper, Alabama
7. WR Davante Parker, Louisville
8. WR Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
9. WR Dorial Green Beckham, Oklahoma
10. WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida
11. OT Andrus Peat, Stanford
12. OT D.J. Humphries, Florida
13. OT Ereck Flowers, Miami
14. OT Jake Fisher, Oregon
15. OT La'el Collins, LSU
16. OT TJ Clemmings, Pittsburgh
17. G Brandon Scherff, Iowa
18. C Cameron Erving, Florida State
19. DE/DT Leonard Williams, USC
20. DE/OLB Dante Fowler, Florida
21. DE/OLB Bud Dupree, Kentucky
22. DE/OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska
23. DE/OLB Shane Ray, Missouri
24. DE/OLB Eli Harold, Virginia
25. DE Owa Odighizuwa, UCLA
26. DT Danny Shelton, Washington
27. DT Malcom Brown, Texas
28. DT Eddie Goldman, Florida State
29. DT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
30. DT Arik Armstead, Oregon
31. OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson
32. MLB Eric Kendricks, UCLA
33. CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State
34. CB Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
35. CB Byron Jones, Connecticut
36. CB Marcus Peters, Washington
37. CB Ronald Darby, Florida State
38. CB Eric Rowe, Utah
39. S Landon Collins, Alabama
40. S Damarious Randall, Arizona State