2016 Crowd Watch

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Standalone weekends is just a free kick to other sports.

Reduce the gap between Origin matches from 3 weeks to 2 weeks. Then the whole thing is over in 6-7 weeks instead of 9-10.

It used to be a 2 week gap.

This is the dumbest arguement....

With our limited number of NRL games, why would we INTENTIONALLY put them up against competition.

I much prefer the NRL does what is best for itself, not just look at how it can f*ck with the VFL.

Youll have to explain what the great tragedy here is. We have an entire offseason with no NRL and the world hasnt ended yet. What is so great about having sub-standard NRL on TV when we KNOW Origin is sucking up all of the attention??

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Origin Eve? It's not Tuesday, it's Friday.

Regardless of whether it's Origin Eve or the positions of both clubs, a supporter base with a combined membership of some 54,500, in the same city and who share use of the same ground shouldn't be getting 11,000.

Especially when the game played at Parra five weeks ago was one of the more enjoyable games of the season.

For a sub-standard game in an utterly saturated market, im surprised we went as well as we did.....

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Origin must remain on Wednesday nights. Start the series early may and have the f**ker finished mid-june.

Yep, even if/when we go to a standalone period Origin needs to stay on Wednesdays...

The stadiums are always packed regardless of the days (Sundays might have higher demand, but that would just lead to higher ticket prices for people to bitch about). The focus needs to be on TV exposure and Wednesday is the day for that.

 

[Last Week]

Yep, even if/when we go to a standalone period Origin needs to stay on Wednesdays...

The stadiums are always packed regardless of the days (Sundays might have higher demand, but that would just lead to higher ticket prices for people to bitch about). The focus needs to be on TV exposure and Wednesday is the day for that.

Historically, Sunday night is the prime viewing slot for TV. I'd imagine we would have the ability to draw more viewers on a Sunday night than any other night. Which is why I'd prefer this for NRL matches to Thursday night or Monday night (or 6pm on a f**king Friday! f**king idiots)

In saying that, I still believe it should be on during the week as there is absolutely no other sport on throughout the week. It is complete saturation of Rugby League on all media. 2 days before is about Origin and 2 days after its all Origin.

 

[guyver78]

Until there are less games in the NRL at a more favorable time schedule for people to attend get used to these crappy crowds. Last Friday night was only the 4th game I could attend this season due to work commitments.

What are the averages for crowds this season? I'd say they're worse then last year.

 

[Timmah]

No, they aren't.

 

[Perth Red]

Until there are less games in the NRL at a more favorable time schedule for people to attend get used to these crappy crowds. Last Friday night was only the 4th game I could attend this season due to work commitments.

What are the averages for crowds this season? I'd say they're worse then last year.

Just scraping above, though last years were the lowest for years so a low bar! A handful of big public holiday games, and the Broncos, has kept the avg from being A league level embarrassing.

 

[guyver78]

No, they aren't.

Then which team is boosting the averages this year? Brisbane again???

The 5 better drawing Sydney teams that include the Dragons, Eels, Bulldogs, Tigers and Rabbitohs have all had pretty bad crowds this year.

 

[guyver78]

Just scraping above, though last years were the lowest for years so a low bar! A handful of big public holiday games, and the Broncos, has kept the avg from being A league level embarrassing.

Yeah see until the games themselves have more meaning throughout the season then crowds will never get better. I say scrap the NRL games during the Origin period.

I was at the Souths v Parra game last friday night...Awful atmosphere, no origin players, low quality game and Aisle 107, ANZ's best view almost empty.

How are they expecting people to attend these games during the Origin period on Thursday, Monday or even Friday night? IT was like watching a NSW/QLD cup game. Full credit to Parra for winning but the game itself and everything about the night was just BORING.

The NRL are soooo scared that if they put no footy on they will lose ground to the AFL that they're actually devaluing their own product.

Seriously unless you're a Sea Eagles or Titans supporter does anybody really care about this game tonight given the Origin is only 2 nights away? My question is WHY are they even playing games like that besides TV dictating to do so?

 

[Last Week]

Because the fact is that the revenue loss would be extreme, suddenly dropping 4 rounds from the competition. You may have found Souths vs Eels boring, but there were still over half a million people who watched it on Nine.

Just for the record, I also wish that the season were shortened down to 18 - 23 rounds (competition structure pending), but it just isn't viable for our clubs at the moment.

 

[adamkungl]

I'd love to know what a "free kick" to other sports even is, aside from a nonsense Rothfield-esque catchphrase.

Ban the offseason, it's a free kick to Sokka! Clowns.

The season should be 4 games shorter.
There should be no NRL in June.

So many things you could fill 4 weekends with, even allowing for Wednesday Origins.

3 games England v NZ
2 Pacific Cup games for 3 weeks + a final
3 games Womens Aus v NZ or Origin series
3 games U20s origin
Even City v Country could find a place if it didn't take players away from a club game, as an Origin B game.

We currently have
3 rounds with 4 NRL games and 1 Origin
2 rounds with 7 NRL games.
1 round with 6 NRL games.
Most of which are garbage in this period.

4 weeks with 5 rep games, and no NRL games affected before, during or after would be so much better.

 

[Last Week]

So many things you could fill 4 weekends with, even allowing for Wednesday Origins.

3 games England v NZ
2 Pacific Cup games for 3 weeks + a final
3 games Womens Aus v NZ or Origin series
3 games U20s origin
Even City v Country could find a place if it didn't take players away from a club game, as an Origin B game.

I agree with you, but fact is that we need to come up with a way for NRL Clubs to still be able to earn the same amount of money through playing less matches.

All the revenue raised England vs NZ, Women's Australia vs NZ and the Pacific Islands tests will go to those national bodies involved. Not NRL Clubs. And those matches aren't going to have the audience that an NRL club match would.

It's all well and good to say the clubs need to make a sacrifice, but you're essentially taking away 2 home games worth of gate takings away, 4 games of exposure for their sponsors away from, 4 less games that Nine and Fox will pay for.

 

[guyver78]

Finally a few of you are onto something. I'd be happy with a 18-20 game season.

You would attend games that would actually have some meaning, unlike the rubbish that was on display last Friday night.

At the end of the day as stated, it always comes down to the $$$

 

[guyver78]

I agree with you, but fact is that we need to come up with a way for NRL Clubs to still be able to earn the same amount of money through playing less matches.

All the revenue raised England vs NZ, Women's Australia vs NZ and the Pacific Islands tests will go to those national bodies involved. Not NRL Clubs. And those matches aren't going to have the audience that an NRL club match would.

It's all well and good to say the clubs need to make a sacrifice, but you're essentially taking away 2 home games worth of gate takings away, 4 games of exposure for their sponsors away from, 4 less games that Nine and Fox will pay for.

All good and valid points. We need to get ourselves in the position that the NFL is in. They only play 16 games and every home game is like a State of Origin game there. Stadiums sold out and packed to capacity, even on Monday nights. Of course we are dealing with a much higher population there.

 

[Last Week]

All good and valid points. We need to get ourselves in the position that the NFL is in. They only play 16 games and every home game is like a State of Origin game there. Stadiums sold out and packed to capacity, even on Monday nights. Of course we are dealing with a much higher population there.

Well, yeah. And they're also mostly 1 team cities. The Green Bay Packers represent the smallest area of all North American professional sport, and their waiting list for memberships has over 86'000 people on it. Most tickets are passed on in wills..

But they're an anomaly and comparison with the NFL isn't fair as they don't have rep teams and are on a vastly different scale of size compared to most other sports competitions.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Pax - 51,452

 

[Perth Red]

Less but higher quality content = more interest and money.

The NRL missed the opportunity to lever off the value of origin to TV to reduce rounds and compensate clubs accordingly. We keep hearing what a massive event Origin is yet in the TV deal what was its value? Our content still got less than AFL even with origin. If origin is worth say $75million a year then reduce rounds by 4 and share that $75mill out to the clubs, they are probably doing it anyway with increased grants but missed the opportunity to call it compensation and change the structure.

And for want of sounding like a stuck record expanding the comp can increase content whilst still allowing for reduction in rounds.

 

[Perth Red]

Well, yeah. And they're also mostly 1 team cities. The Green Bay Packers represent the smallest area of all North American professional sport, and their waiting list for memberships has over 86'000 people on it. Most tickets are passed on in wills..

But they're an anomaly and comparison with the NFL isn't fair as they don't have rep teams and are on a vastly different scale of size compared to most other sports competitions.

True but we aren't talking about selling out 90k NFL stadiums, Just 20-25k consistently would do! NRL isn't terrible but it also isn't going anywhere, and hasn't for many years, in terms of people attending a game. Playing games in 40k or 80k stadium isn't helping the perception of a sport no one wants to go to. I don't think the NRL have any answers so have given up and decided to just keep the clubs viable by selling its soul to TV.

 

[CC_Roosters]

True but we aren't talking about selling out 90k NFL stadiums, Just 20-25k consistently would do! NRL isn't terrible but it also isn't going anywhere, and hasn't for many years, in terms of people attending a game. Playing games in 40k or 80k stadium isn't helping the perception of a sport no one wants to go to. I don't think the NRL have any answers so have given up and decided to just keep the clubs viable by selling its soul to TV.

I agree. The NRL and ARL has shown no ability or vision to fix issues from grassroots, to scheduling, crowds and footprint. You could say the administrarion has in the past deceived expansion bids with public statements which have mislead them to beleive it was happening within a certain time followed by long periods of silence and further contradictary comments.

There is no strategy to boost crowds and seemingly they are not aorth comment from the executive unless its the finacial report when they spin everything they dan to paint a positive picture.

Honestly its no wonder people walk away from the game as the games leadership make that an easy decision at times.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Until there are less games in the NRL at a more favorable time schedule for people to attend get used to these crappy crowds. Last Friday night was only the 4th game I could attend this season due to work commitments.

What are the averages for crowds this season? I'd say they're worse then last year.

I predict the final average will be below 15k. But hey that doesnt matter because origin had millions of eyeballs....:crazy: