2017 Auckland Nines

[Basil Brush]

I am not sure what we were actually trying to do in that game. Just hit ups. No offloads and no passing.

I seriously want to say WTF.

 

[hindy111]

We played good footy yesterday. Some great moves.
Today was boring one out and up guts garbage.

 

[strider]

We looked knackered tbh ..... clearly not the hardest pre-season ever

 

[hindmarshisgod]

BA told us before the game that we were gonna go up the middle. At least they listen to the coach.

Why would he..
A, tell everyone his game plan...and B, use that stupid game plan in a 9s format where there is so much room on the edges.

BA scares me to be honest. I dont think he is a very smart tactical coach. He has the respect of the players and a great motivator, but i think his game plan are shit.

 

[strider]

Disagree, partly. Speedsters and steppers yes. But playmakers with those bloke outside them, plenty of space, short defensive line....he could have done more.

Nope ... the tournament stars are always those who run rings around others

 

[Bazal]

We looked knackered tbh ..... clearly not the hardest pre-season ever

Great. Now you've summoned Parra Pete....

 

[hineyrulz]

Couldn't have done it without you Hindy111. When are you going to dump these losers and come to the dark side?

You can have him

 

[Bazal]

Nope ... the tournament stars are always those who run rings around others

Player of the tournament last year was a playmaker....I don't expect Gutherson to be Norman, but he needed to offer something as the chief playmaker. We didn't need him to be a star, just to be a playmaker and make use of Semi and French against a short defensive line with plenty of holes and he showed nothing unfortunately.

Hopefully he learns from it.

 

[hineyrulz]

Player of the tournament last year was a playmaker....I don't expect Gutherson to be Norman, but he needed to offer something as the chief playmaker. We didn't need him to be a star, just to be a playmaker and make use of Semi and French against a short defensive line with plenty of holes and he showed nothing unfortunately.

Hopefully he learns from it.

Well FOG was out there as the play maker and offered nothing and king overplayed his hand all game. Guth looked a little tired by the end.

 

[Bazal]

Well FOG was out there as the play maker and offered nothing and king overplayed his hand all game. Guth looked a little tired by the end.

Yeah but one is our starting 6, the others are Wentworthville players at this stage. King is still better than Kaysa IMO.

Anyway I see the 9s as an extended trial in a lot of ways and I think if Gutho had played like that as lead playmaker in a trial there'd be a lot more concerned fans. He's a quality player, but does that make him a quality 6?

 

[strider]

Player of the tournament last year was a playmaker....I don't expect Gutherson to be Norman, but he needed to offer something as the chief playmaker. We didn't need him to be a star, just to be a playmaker and make use of Semi and French against a short defensive line with plenty of holes and he showed nothing unfortunately.

Hopefully he learns from it.

Semi was too busy sulking on the f**king wing ... bevo at least tried to get involved

 

[strider]

Yeah but one is our starting 6, the others are Wentworthville players at this stage. King is still better than Kaysa IMO.

Anyway I see the 9s as an extended trial in a lot of ways and I think if Gutho had played like that as lead playmaker in a trial there'd be a lot more concerned fans. He's a quality player, but does that make him a quality 6?

I know what you are saying ... and yeah, it would be nice if he carved up ... but imo 9s is vastly different and he's more suited to 6 in 13 a side than 9s .... cos 9s is about speed and stepping (norman is a very good stepper)

 

[hineyrulz]

Yeah but one is our starting 6, the others are Wentworthville players at this stage. King is still better than Kaysa IMO.

Anyway I see the 9s as an extended trial in a lot of ways and I think if Gutho had played like that as lead playmaker in a trial there'd be a lot more concerned fans. He's a quality player, but does that make him a quality 6?

Fair call, just seemed to be Guth spent a fair bit of time on the wing and didn't play as the main playmaker, thats what it looked to me. FOG offered nothing and King just hogged it up with Gower.

 

[Basil Brush]

Semi was too busy sulking on the f**king wing ... bevo at least tried to get involved

It is a good point. Semi didn't seem too interested.

We are giving Gutho a bit of crap but surely Semi deserves some.

 

[hybrideel]

I don't think you can afford to have 3 playmakers in 9's format and with King and Fog doing that Gunco played more a centre role mostly

 

[Bazal]

It is a good point. Semi didn't seem too interested.

We are giving Gutho a bit of crap but surely Semi deserves some.

I'm not meaning to come across as giving him crap, because at the end of the day it's a preseason tournament and we did very well and look in good shape. I'm just concerned that maybe he's not suited to a playmaking role.

IMO he's a natural fullback and could be very good there. He has some of the skills to make a solid 6, but does he have the actual game for it?

 

[Lethal]

Not worried about King and Fog, they are back ups at this stage. I'm concerned by Gutherson if I'm honest....don't get me wrong, I love the bloke, but showed very little as a playmaker in a game made for playmakers...it's only 9s but there's a worry there anyway

Is King only a backup? By all reports he will be our starting hooker this year, and I'm very worried about that. He is very ordinary.

 

[strider]

I think Gutho is a very good centre ... hopefullyhe can develop into a very good half

 

[Bazal]

Is King only a backup? By all reports he will be our starting hooker this year, and I'm very worried about that. He is very ordinary.

He's still better than Kaysa and offers far more in attack than IDG (then again, so does a brick).

IDG will start the season with Kaysa on the bench from the reports I've heard...

 

[strider]

Panthers vs Roosters final .... never would have picked it