Would be a 6pm start in QldThe AFL starts are 7pm, why can't the NRL.
Would be a 6pm start in Qld
Because the other main league tv market is stuck in 1935 without daylight savings. That's why the kick off is so late.
Surely live crowds is more important.
The AFL doesn't give any f**ks it's 4pm in Perth,6.30 in SA, 6 in QLD.
AFL Friday night games in Perth start at 6 for the sake of eastern tv audiences. From all accounts they hate it
The AFL starts are 7pm, why can't the NRL.
Your talking about the exception rather then the rule.
Im not defending that crap code, but why for example do we need a game starting a 8.15/8.20pm on a Thu for 20 rounds of the year?
If its going to be on a "school" night surely make it start close to 7pm.
It makes a total mockery of the NRL and all these excuses when the AFL comes straight out and gets 70K+ people to a Thursday night game. Their game finishes just as late as ours as well.
It's an awful look for the game and it's only a matter of time before it has an impact on tv ratings as well.
There is no excuse, we should be able to. Having said that the AFL goes for 3 hours so it finishes as late anyway.
The AFL have a long standing membership and crowd culture that was built over decades.
And Melbourne's central stadiums are actually centrally located and easy to get to, whereas Sydney's are pretty painful.
But the first point is the more important one - comparisons at this stage are fairly meaningless.
The NRLs membership program is 10-20 years behind, despite rapid growth, and most importantly the NRL (despite claiming to be targetting a 20k average by this year) have actively made moves to subdue crowds.
Timeslots, scheduling, stadium choices and poorly designed rule changes are all contributing.
The real concern isn't NRL vs AFL, it's ARLC-NRL vs Gallop-NRL. To be losing crowds compared to an organisation that was run by a puppet with a media company deliberately underselling it is a tragic embarrassment to say the least.
It's not as if Melbourne is the only place the AFL get good crowds. Their crowds in Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide are all phenominal. No doubt next week in Sydney the swans will get a crowd that dwarfs any crowd in Sydney for the NRL so far this year so it's hard to just blame Sydney.
I know why a 1:1 comparison between the AFL and NRL isn't fair. My point is that it looks bad when all year long we've been hearing that Thursday night is awful for crowds and no one could pull a big crowd on that night and then bam the AFL attract 70K (the swans have previously pulled 30K+ as well from memory).
I agree though that the bigger concern is that even when you compare the NRL to itself crowds are still stagnate and based on the start of the year are almost certainly going to decline.
We have more money, resources and media coverage then ever before. We have far more members than ever before and growing. Yet crowds are going nowhere if not backwards.
Even worse so far this year ratings have remained flat, even a tiny bit down despite this.
The NRL is totally incompetent and is making even the Gallop administration look great which as you say is pathetic.
It does look bad.
I guess the point I was trying to make that is even in the best conditions (ie. the NRL making crowds its #1 priority and everyone getting on board) we're a long way off 70k for regular season games, due to the culture taking a long time to build. If we were pulling 20-25k regularly that would be a great result on its own terms - but still nowhere near the AFL.
The concern is that the NRL aren't even trying to create those conditions. They're actively trashing the environment required to build crowds. As you say, stagnant at best, in harsh reality they are in decline.
Thursday KNIGHT Football
I recon if they had Thursday night football every second Thursday in Newcastle, kick off at 7.15 and gave the Knights some marketing dollars it could become a great tradition in Newcastle to get to the game.
Fire the canons at Fort Scratchily every Thursday arvo at 5pm when everyone is leaving the office.
What specifically about Newcastle makes it more suitable to Thursday night? This is a dumb plan and actively hurts on of the NRL's most important teams strategically.
Then again it's not half as crazy as your usual posts so I'll give you that.