2018 Finals Scheduling

[moffla]

Storm would get 35k to prelims at Etihad but I'm very glad we don't move them. AAMI is a shit tonne better for match day experience. I'm not sure if that's considered more important than crowd numbers though, but for me I'm glad we've stuck with AAMI

 

[Valheru]

Melbourne have hosted prelims at AAMI numerous times and there's never been talk of locking 10,000 fans out. There was talk of moving it in 2015 but apparently Melbourne were contractually obliged to play at AAMI. That year was also their highest crowd, the last two years have been lower. If there was the possibility of locking out 25,000 supporters like there is with a possible Souths-Roosters prelim, then yeah it would be the same logic.

There's no point talking about moving a Storm prelim to Etihad on the suspicion that it might get a bigger crowd, but when thousands of people are definitely going to be locked out of an all-Sydney prelim, absolutely it's worth talking about moving it.

25,000? For about the 10th time in this thread, the 2014 prelim got 50k

The souths/dragons game is looking like getting between 40 and 50k which is exactly what the prelim at SFS will get.

 

[big hit!]

IMO, the minor premier and week 1 winner (i.e., easts) should always get the friday night. what is happening in the AFL is moot.

the schedule was f**ked by both the wallabies match on saturday and the NRL rd 25 schedule. the 2,3,6,7 group should have their matches first in week 1 so the above can happen and there is no need for crossover.

ideally week 1 should've gone.
Fri - MEL vs SS
Sat - BRI vs SGI (broncos woul've been considered disadvantaged though due to playing on sunday rd 25)
Sat - SYD vs CRO
Sun - PEN vs NZW

then week 2
Fri - SS vs SGI
Sat - CRO vs PEN

then week 3
Fri - SYD vs SS/SGI
Sat - MEL vs CRO/PEN

apart from the winner of 6 vs 7, and 5 vs 8 getting 6-day breaks going into week 2 (they finished 5th to 8th anyway), the schedule then allows for at least 7 day breaks into the prelim and GF. all the advantages should be scheduled to accommodate the minor premier as week 1 winner.

 

[Springs09]

25,000? For about the 10th time in this thread, the 2014 prelim got 50k

The souths/dragons game is looking like getting between 40 and 50k which is exactly what the prelim at SFS will get.

We know, I'm saying there's a possibility. It would most likely definitely lock out 10k supporters, but it could lock out up to 25k. I prefer the prelim to be at SFS, but if the NRL are consistent with their past policies of not locking out supporters, then they would move it to ANZ.

 

[Captain Apollo]

IMO, the minor premier and week 1 winner (i.e., easts) should always get the friday night. what is happening in the AFL is moot.

the schedule was f**ked by both the wallabies match on saturday and the NRL rd 25 schedule. the 2,3,6,7 group should have their matches first in week 1 so the above can happen and there is no need for crossover.

ideally week 1 should've gone.
Fri - MEL vs SS
Sat - BRI vs SGI (broncos woul've been considered disadvantaged though due to playing on sunday rd 25)
Sat - SYD vs CRO
Sun - PEN vs NZW

then week 2
Fri - SS vs SGI
Sat - CRO vs PEN

then week 3
Fri - SYD vs SS/SGI
Sat - MEL vs CRO/PEN

apart from the winner of 6 vs 7, and 5 vs 8 getting 6-day breaks going into week 2 (they finished 5th to 8th anyway), the schedule then allows for at least 7 day breaks into the prelim and GF. all the advantages should be scheduled to accommodate the minor premier as week 1 winner.

Yes but your scenario for Week 1 was never going to happen as Suncorp Stadium was not available on Saturday due to the Wallabies playing there. Hence all the rest of it is moot.

 

[big hit!]

Yes but your scenario for Week 1 was never going to happen as Suncorp Stadium was not available on Saturday due to the Wallabies playing there. Hence all the rest of it is moot.

exactly. so with BRI vs SGI scheduled on Sunday because of this, and SS vs SGI on saturday, folks need to stop the whining and accept that SYD vs SS/SGI has to be on Saturday. It'd be ridiculous to swap it around and end up giving the winner of CRO/PEN an 8-day break and the winner of SS/SGI only 6 days. with the current wk 3 schedule, both semi winners get a 7-day break.

some folks here are more concerned about how the crowd looks on tele rather than the actual fairness for competitors.

 

[dogz08]

can melbourne stop getting home prelims please..

 

[TheFrog]

For about the 10th time in this thread, the 2014 prelim got 50k

Actually, 52,592, which is about 8,000 more than Allianz can hold.

Considering their stance on Week 1 at suburban stadiums, a tad hypocritical. Can't be upsetting The Big Chicken though.

 

[Valheru]

Actually, 52,592, which is about 8,000 more than Allianz can hold.

Considering their stance on Week 1 at suburban stadiums, a tad hypocritical. Can't be upsetting The Big Chicken though.

This is a different aituation to the suburban grounds. The NRL dont consider them suitable for any finals game. Whether me, you or anyone else agrees with that is irrelevant, everyone knows those grounds aren't to host finals.

In the case of the SFS the NRL has deemed it suitable for all finals apart from the GF and it is our choice to play there. Either we should be allowed or the venue should be deemed unsuitable for all week 3 games.

 

[TheFrog]

This is a different aituation to the suburban grounds. The NRL dont consider them suitable for any finals game. Whether me, you or anyone else agrees with that is irrelevant, everyone knows those grounds aren't to host finals.

In the case of the SFS the NRL has deemed it suitable for all finals apart from the GF and it is our choice to play there. Either we should be allowed or the venue should be deemed unsuitable for all week 3 games.

Nothing to worry about this year, its much too late, but going forward a somewhat more flexible arrangement might prove amenable to all stakeholders.

 

[Timbo]

We're the only sport in the world that would even contemplate taking a well-won home ground advantage off a team so a few thousand extra people can get in. 99.9% of the people who watch the game will be doing so on TV.

The Roosters won the home ground advantage. If you want to go, have your browser open on the ticketek website the minute they go on sale.

 

[Captain Apollo]

We're the only sport in the world that would even contemplate taking a well-won home ground advantage off a team so a few thousand extra people can get in. 99.9% of the people who watch the game will be doing so on TV.

The Roosters won the home ground advantage. If you want to go, have your browser open on the ticketek website the minute they go on sale.

Also the ones in this thread who appear to be advocating seem to all be Panthers fans, which makes me wonder if this is just a continuation of the whinge (by some) about them not being able to play finals games at Penrith Stadium.

 

[TheFrog]

We're the only sport in the world that would even contemplate taking a well-won home ground advantage off a team so a few thousand extra people can get in.

That is precisely the position with week 1 finals at Cronulla, Brookvale or Penrith.

 

[Captain Apollo]

That is precisely the position with week 1 finals at Cronulla, Brookvale or Penrith.

No it isn't because it was said By the NRL since 2012 that the only grounds for Sydney Clubs which could be used for finals games was the SFS or ANZ. The SFS is the Roosters home ground, ANZ is home ground for Souths, Canterbury, Parramatta (until WWS opens) and the Wests Tigers.

 

[Timbo]

That is precisely the position with week 1 finals at Cronulla, Brookvale or Penrith.

Which I by and large disagree with.

I think Week 1 finals should be home ground finals, as long as grounds meet minimum criteria - for example, 20,000 minimum capacity, a certain percentage of the ground seated, a certain percentage of the ground under cover for spectators, etc.

It wouldn't rule out Brookvale and co, but it would mean unless they receive modern amenities they have to move.

Weeks 2 and 3 should be the best stadium in the home city (with the exception of Sydney, were the home club should get a choice between Allianz, WSS or ANZ) - and I mean all cities.

As it stands, I think one of the greatest injustices in the system is that Canberra and Newcastle's 'home' city for week 3 would be Sydney, and the Gold Coast's is Brisbane.

Can you imagine if the Roosters and the Knights ran 1 and 2. The Roosters drop their first game, the Knights win. The Roosters win their week 2 game. That would mean the prelim is Newcastle vs Easts at Allianz with the Knights as the home team? It's utter nonsense, and not good for the game at all.

 

[TheFrog]

I'm not in favour of hard and fast rules. Panthers vs most out-of-Sydney sides is not going to exceed the capacity of Penrith stadium in week 1 and 2. It didn't last week. Brookvale has a serious problem in that it can only hold about 15,000. I'm not sure how Dragons or Sharks club or fans feel about this but certainly a significant core of Panthers fans feel we should be allowed to play a final at Penrith in circumstances where it is likely to outdraw the bigger venues.

 

[big hit!]

Which I by and large disagree with.

I think Week 1 finals should be home ground finals, as long as grounds meet minimum criteria - for example, 20,000 minimum capacity, a certain percentage of the ground seated, a certain percentage of the ground under cover for spectators, etc.

It wouldn't rule out Brookvale and co, but it would mean unless they receive modern amenities they have to move.

Weeks 2 and 3 should be the best stadium in the home city (with the exception of Sydney, were the home club should get a choice between Allianz, WSS or ANZ) - and I mean all cities.

As it stands, I think one of the greatest injustices in the system is that Canberra and Newcastle's 'home' city for week 3 would be Sydney, and the Gold Coast's is Brisbane.

Can you imagine if the Roosters and the Knights ran 1 and 2. The Roosters drop their first game, the Knights win. The Roosters win their week 2 game. That would mean the prelim is Newcastle vs Easts at Allianz with the Knights as the home team? It's utter nonsense, and not good for the game at all.

criteria for finals is easy. all-seater stadium. if it has a hill it doesn't past the test.

it's the finals of a professional (we're led to believe) league.

sydney clubs should be lobbying council or state govt, or use the cash from their gambling dens to update their venues if they want to host finals. penrith, brookvale, carlton, wollongong, woolooware, leumeah, etc in therir current guise should never host a final again.

once again, it's finals. i have no sympathy for apathetic sydney folk who are too lazy to travel a little out of their district for a couple of big matches

 

[siv]

25,000? For about the 10th time in this thread, the 2014 prelim got 50k

The souths/dragons game is looking like getting between 40 and 50k which is exactly what the prelim at SFS will get.

SFS can only hold 35K in a sellout

The rest are only SCG/SFS members if they chose to attend

You will easily get 50k plus for preliminary final of two Sydney teams

This is exactly the sort of game that should be at Homebush

We should be promoting this game so that to 60-70k attend

 

[siv]

This is a different aituation to the suburban grounds. The NRL dont consider them suitable for any finals game. Whether me, you or anyone else agrees with that is irrelevant, everyone knows those grounds aren't to host finals.

In the case of the SFS the NRL has deemed it suitable for all finals apart from the GF and it is our choice to play there. Either we should be allowed or the venue should be deemed unsuitable for all week 3 games.

Isnt the SFS a safety concern and should be torn down

Can see it being any safer for a finals match in 2018. Especially week 3

 

[Valheru]

SFS can only hold 35K in a sellout

The rest are only SCG/SFS members if they chose to attend

You will easily get 50k plus for preliminary final of two Sydney teams

This is exactly the sort of game that should be at Homebush

We should be promoting this game so that to 60-70k attend

I don't care who is locked out.

It is our home prelim and our choice of the suitable venues.

I would be saying the exact same thing if the sharks won and earned the home week 3 game.