2019 Federal Election

[Eelogical]

Just want to say, I can rest much easier from midnight tonight when I don't have to hear or watch any more f**king Clive Palmer commercials until the following election. They have been relentless for months, I've never experienced anything like it before and never ever want to again.

 

[Bazal]

Just want to say, I can rest much easier from midnight tonight when I don't have to hear or watch any more f**king Clive Palmer commercials until the following election. They have been relentless for months, I've never experienced anything like it before and never ever want to again.

They are the absolute worst....I put his bloke dead last for House, and only above Fraser fking Anning's two for the senate, and most of the driving force was those f**king ads!

Well, that and he's a f**king deadshit. But the ads would have done it even if he wasn't

 

[Eelogical]

They are the absolute worst....I put his bloke dead last for House, and only above Fraser fking Anning's two for the senate, and most of the driving force was those f**king ads!

Well, that and he's a f**king deadshit. But the ads would have done it even if he wasn't

I wonder if @Gary Gutful has played a round at Palmers Coolum Resort.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I wonder if @Gary Gutful has played a round at Palmers Coolum Resort.

I have. He's absolutely destroted the place since taking it over. He should be f**ken ashamed of himself.

 

[Eelogical]

I have. He's absolutely destroted the place since taking it over. He should be f**ken ashamed of himself.

Is that you checking out the arse of the T-Rex?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Is that you checking out the arse of the T-Rex?

Zoom in a bit further. I am the one stroking his cock n' balls.

 

[Bazal]

Zoom in a bit further. I am the one stroking his c**k n' balls.

Well that's very charitable of you. He obviously can't with those puny little T-Rex arms

 

[Bandwagon]

Bollocks. You're off with the fairies at the bottom of my garden if you think that people don't make deliberate decisions about the trade off between work and doing something else based upon how much the ATO want to get their hands on. Even I sometimes ( but not always ) have trouble convincing people to do some overtime for the simple reason "It isn't worth it". High marginal rates are poisonous. On an economy wide scale I'd be less concerned about lower rates than I am about the loss of production that results. This adds directly to GDP which the withdrawal of never comes back. It hurts us more than you think it does.

If people don't wanna work because they'd rather be doing something else, then respectfully I would suggest that the primary driver there is that they'd rather be doing something else. The reasoning that they pay too much tax if they earn more money , so that doesn't make it worthwhile is a nonsense.

Mind you, I didn't claim they don't make that decision, based upon that reasoning though, quite the opposite.

 

[strider]

Just want to say, I can rest much easier from midnight tonight when I don't have to hear or watch any more f**king Clive Palmer commercials until the following election. They have been relentless for months, I've never experienced anything like it before and never ever want to again.

f**kin oath ... that fat merkin has done my head in

 

[crocodile]

If people don't wanna work because they'd rather be doing something else, then respectfully I would suggest that the primary driver there is that they'd rather be doing something else. The reasoning that they pay too much tax if they earn more money , so that doesn't make it worthwhile is a nonsense.

You can say it's nonsense it you want but that doesn't make it true. Increasing marginal tax rates most certainly disincentivises working decisions. Make the top rate 90% and see how it goes.

Mind you, I didn't claim they don't make that decision, based upon that reasoning though, quite the opposite.

Bit of a contradiction. It's either nonsense to you or it isn't.

 

[Bandwagon]

You can say it's nonsense it you want but that doesn't make it true. Increasing marginal tax rates most certainly disincentivises working decisions. Make the top rate 90% and see how it goes.

Of course being paid less makes working less attractive. As does a host of other things, but then again I'm not making the argument it doesn't, go back and look at the context of the original post you seem to have taken exception to, which is about how people misunderstand how tax brackets actually work.

An example would be say, if a wage earner is sitting on say 90k, so doing overtime puts them over 90k and thus up a tax bracket, if they are being compensated for their overtime with penalty rates, then they are still taking home more per hour on the portion of wages above 90k than they are for the portion of wages between 37k and 90k, that's simple maths, and it will work across any tax bracket. So to knock back the overtime on the reasoning that the extra tax alone makes it not worthwhile begs the question as to why is it worthwhile to sell your labour for one price for most of the time, but not worthwhile to sell your labour for more than that for some of the time?

Logically I can see only two reasons why this might be the case, one being a lack of understanding about how the tax system works, thus believing that the labour is being sold for less,( which was what my comment goes to ) and the other being that for other reasons, they value that particular time more highly than they do their normal work hours.

Bit of a contradiction. It's either nonsense to you or it isn't.

There's no contradiction at all.

That people would and do make decisions based on poor reasoning, misinformation and or nonsense is hardly a revelation.

 

[Gronk]

 

[Twizzle]

Sportsbet on FB announced they are paying out on Bill Shorten today and not taking any more bets.

 

[hindy111]

Yeah, I hear it at work a lot. We get a bonus up to 12% if we meet KPIs and people complain they lose 40% or more of it because they are too stupid to realize that if your pay for one month of the year is 18 to 20k you get taxed on the assumption you will earn that every month. It all works out in your tax return anyway.

I hear the same when guys do OT. They claim to make less if do to much cause jump into a new tax bracket. I explain how its a sliding scale and that it is impossible to earn less if do more hours but it confuses everyone.

 

[hindy111]

What is the fine if dont vote? Just the standard $55?

 

[Twizzle]

why would it be different to the "standard" ?

 

[Gronk]

I don’t believe in compulsory voting, I chose not to vote on this occasion or I don’t have a valid excuse. What should I do?
Voting is compulsory in Australia. Failure to vote at a federal election without a valid and sufficient reason is an offence under section 245 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918. You are required to pay the $20 penalty.

https://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htm

 

[Eelogical]

What is the fine if dont vote? Just the standard $55?

How hard can it be to make an X ?

 

[hindy111]

How hard can it be to make an X ?

I may have too work Saturday which will be 12hrs and I wont be home tomorrow till 5pm.

 

[Eelogical]

I may have too work Saturday which will be 12hrs and I wont be home tomorrow till 5pm.

Then vote early and vote often.