2019 ratings

[franklin2323]

Think the Friday 5.30pm crowds have so far been higher than the Sunday 6pm crowds? Weather has played a part but going on raw crowd statistics Friday 5.30pm is drawing better than Sunday 6pm crowd wise. Can't be refuted really?

Sunday 6.30 game has out rated the Friday 6pm game. Fox ratings on Thurs night don't drop majorly without a lead in. Crowd wise Sunday is better... No reason to keep it

 

[tri_colours]

Why isn't the NRL doing the same thing with the Sunday game as the AFL do with there Saturday and Sunday games? That is splitting matches, Showing the two Sunday games into different regions.
That way increasing our ratings by having 4 fan groups able to watch there teams not just 2. Then labelling them as the Sunday game.

for example :

Parramatta v Melbourne - Only shown into NSW and Victoria

Warriors v Nth Q!d - Only shown into NZ and Queensland

So its only 1 match. 2 half matches but that equals 1 match.

eg. If Qld aren't watching a Qld team then there ratings are below 100K but if they are watching a Qld team there ratings are nearer 200k. similar with the rest.

 

[Starkers]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...l/news-story/226aaa851565ad17044e5f23b8bf59a3

interesting note. looks like a relatively shit deal for the lions, compared with, say, the storm. although i note that the Titans have only 2 games on FTA this year.

 

[Stallion]

Sunday 6.30 game has out rated the Friday 6pm game. Fox ratings on Thurs night don't drop majorly without a lead in. Crowd wise Sunday is better... No reason to keep it

Agree with tv ratings. However the crowd figures for Friday 5.30 pm are better than Sunday 6pm. Simple as that. Just representing the facts as they are so far this season. IT may change but that's the way it reads right now.

 

[Billythekid]

Agree with tv ratings. However the crowd figures for Friday 5.30 pm are better than Sunday 6pm. Simple as that. Just representing the facts as they are so far this season. IT may change but that's the way it reads right now.

There’s been 2 games in each time slot and Friday 6pm had the opening knights gamesmanship of the season. That’s a silly comparison. Friday 6pm literally only works for a few teams whereas 6pm Sunday is fine for everyone even if it isn’t the best time slot.

Also there is the added bonus that you can add a 3rd Sunday game and really advertise ‘super Sunday’ or whatever you want to call it. Try and achieve something like what the NFL do. With an extra game likely coming in next TV deal that would be the perfect time to push it (also Perth would really help with this due to time zones).

 

[Stallion]

There’s been 2 games in each time slot and Friday 6pm had the opening knights gamesmanship of the season. That’s a silly comparison. Friday 6pm literally only works for a few teams whereas 6pm Sunday is fine for everyone even if it isn’t the best time slot.

Also there is the added bonus that you can add a 3rd Sunday game and really advertise ‘super Sunday’ or whatever you want to call it. Try and achieve something like what the NFL do. With an extra game likely coming in next TV deal that would be the perfect time to push it (also Perth would really help with this due to time zones).

Nope . It's a genuine comparison. Having stated this the Sunday games may ouTarawa the Friday 5.3pm games. The comparison to date is factual. Call a spade a spade. It's fact . The crowd stats don't lie.

 

[Billythekid]

Nope . It's a genuine comparison. Having stated this the Sunday games may ouTarawa the Friday 5.3pm games. The comparison to date is factual. Call a spade a spade. It's fact . The crowd stats don't lie.

I’m not saying it’s not a fact, it’s just a useless one. You can’t look at a sample size of 2 and draw any meaningful comparisons.

 

[Stallion]

I’m not saying it’s not a fact, it’s just a useless one. You can’t look at a sample size of 2 and draw any meaningful comparisons.

Lol . You were stating incorrectly about crowd sizes. The fact is that 6pm Friday has so far achieved bigger attendances than 6pm Sunday. That's it. Game over.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Lol . You were stating incorrectly about crowd sizes. The fact is that 6pm Friday has so far achieved bigger attendances than 6pm Sunday. That's it. Game over.

Yeah because you are all about those facts and stats

 

[Mr Angry]

Ok I am watching a English Super League game, and notice they are advertising Sharks V Cowboys on the British channel.

My questions, I get their commentary for the game, they get the fox guys?

Do these ratings count here?

Does it have viewers over there?

 

[Mr Angry]

Does the NRL get coin for that or does fox sell it as they already paid?

Does the ESL get money for me watching it?

 

[VictoryFC]

Ok I am watching a English Super League game, and notice they are advertising Sharks V Cowboys on the British channel.

My questions, I get their commentary for the game, they get the fox guys?

Do these ratings count here?

Does it have viewers over there?

They use their feed because it is more cost effective. otherwise you have to pay local commentat

The ratings dont count here, they count in Britain. Just as ESL viewership in Australia doesnt count in UK, but in Australia. Those ratings then reflect how much money the NRL gets in Australia and the UK. Same for ESL.

And yes, im sure it has viewers in the uk, but it probably doesnt rate that well, not least because of the unsociable times the games are on.

As for money, Sky Sports would pay the NRL a fee to broadcast the league, and i assume simulcasting from Fox League would also count, with some money going to Fox as part of that deal. Either way, theyre both murdoch owned so it doesnt really matter, but points remains.

 

[Mr Angry]

Ok

So NRL has some viewers in Britain and NZ.

ESL has some viewers in Australia and NZ.

VFL international viewers 0.

Cheers.

 

[Disinterested third party]

Ok

So NRL has some viewers in Britain and NZ.

ESL has some viewers in Australia and NZ.

VFL international viewers 0.

Cheers.

Mate the AFL is a religion in China. Catering tents always bursting.

 

[Perth Red]

Why isn't the NRL doing the same thing with the Sunday game as the AFL do with there Saturday and Sunday games? That is splitting matches, Showing the two Sunday games into different regions.
That way increasing our ratings by having 4 fan groups able to watch there teams not just 2. Then labelling them as the Sunday game.

for example :

Parramatta v Melbourne - Only shown into NSW and Victoria

Warriors v Nth Q!d - Only shown into NZ and Queensland

So its only 1 match. 2 half matches but that equals 1 match.

eg. If Qld aren't watching a Qld team then there ratings are below 100K but if they are watching a Qld team there ratings are nearer 200k. similar with the rest.

We used to do that, everyone whinged they had to watch games on delay. we got rid of it, everyone whinges we have sht KO times. NRL cant win! IF we ever have 20 clubs Id suggest we would have to have veiwers choice option for games on Fox (or NRL digital hopefully) ie 2 games being played at same time. Given Fox's main source of income is subscriptions it really shouldn't make much difference to them if the audience is split between two games at same time.

Something that interests me, is there much variability in tv audiences depending on what clubs are playing? At a glance it seems there is less than 10% (generally) variability on games in same time slots.

 

[Perth Red]

? The Friday 5.30pm games have out drawn all Sunday 6pm games to date this season. A fact!

How about for a full comp last year? As said a sample size of 2 isnt going to prove much. How does crowds and tv audiences compare over the full 2018 season for those slots? Then we can draw some valid and reliable conclusions.

 

[Stallion]

How about for a full comp last year? As said a sample size of 2 isnt going to prove much. How does crowds and tv audiences compare over the full 2018 season for those slots? Then we can draw some valid and reliable conclusions.

It was moreover to be careful about comments which are seen to be all encompassing yet in reality are not the case. So when digging a hole for Friday 6pm at least get the comments right. That's the essence of pointing out the higher attendances for Friday compared to Sunday. This may change but as it is that's what's being realised.

 

[tri_colours]

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We used to do that, everyone whinged they had to watch games on delay. we got rid of it, everyone whinges we have sht KO times. NRL cant win! IF we ever have 20 clubs Id suggest we would have to have veiwers choice option for games on Fox (or NRL digital hopefully) ie 2 games being played at same time. Given Fox's main source of income is subscriptions it really shouldn't make much difference to them if the audience is split between two games at same time.

Something that interests me, is there much variability in tv audiences depending on what clubs are playing? At a glance it seems there is less than 10% (generally) variability on games in same time slots.

We used to do a similar thing but in this case it would be 2 games shown live into different areas then the ratings fort each would be added together and called the Sunday game.

eg. This week the AFL's Sunday match on FTA is:

Hawthorn v W. Bulldogs shown only into Melbourne, Sydney.

Gold Coast v Freemantle shown only into Brisbane , Perth and Adelaide.


The biggest problem in our game at the moment is that we don't have a Saturday game on FTA. Meaning 66% of league viewers cant watch a game on Saturday! how can this be good for the game?
If the NRL did introduce 2 new teams it would allow Fox to still show 5 exclusive games and let CH 9 broadcast the Saturday night game on a regular basis .

There are sill plenty of timeslots available without having to overlap games. At least one spot could be made available on a Saturday, and Sunday night would also be a good timeslot also.

As far as overlap goes, using the AFL as an example on a Saturday/Sunday it varies. Some games have 0 overlap , some 30m, some 60m and some 90m. It also depends a lot on who's playing. For example given the choice of Collingwood game and a Suns game almost all would watch the Collingwood game. But if it the choice was between Collingwood and Richmond the fan bases would far more split down the middle.

 

[VictoryFC]

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We used to do a similar thing but in this case it would be 2 games shown live into different areas then the ratings fort each would be added together and called the Sunday game.

eg. This week the AFL's Sunday match on FTA is:

Hawthorn v W. Bulldogs shown only into Melbourne, Sydney.

Gold Coast v Freemantle shown only into Brisbane , Perth and Adelaide.


The biggest problem in our game at the moment is that we don't have a Saturday game on FTA. Meaning 66% of league viewers cant watch a game on Saturday! how can this be good for the game?
If the NRL did introduce 2 new teams it would allow Fox to still show 5 exclusive games and let CH 9 broadcast the Saturday night game on a regular basis .

There are sill plenty of timeslots available without having to overlap games. At least one spot could be made available on a Saturday, and Sunday night would also be a good timeslot also.

As far as overlap goes, using the AFL as an example on a Saturday/Sunday it varies. Some games have 0 overlap , some 30m, some 60m and some 90m. It also depends a lot on who's playing. For example given the choice of Collingwood game and a Suns game almost all would watch the Collingwood game. But if it the choice was between Collingwood and Richmond the fan bases would far more split down the middle.

The other thing auskick has that NRL doesn't is the Perth timezone. It makes scheduling much easier.

The NRL will eventually come to the conclusion that expansion is the only way forward, and we'll get a new Bris team and one in Perth.

 

[Stallion]

The other thing auskick has that NRL doesn't is the Perth timezone. It makes scheduling much easier.

The NRL will eventually come to the conclusion that expansion is the only way forward, and we'll get a new Bris team and one in Perth.

Let's hope so! Without the heartache and pain would be a welcome and refreshing approach. Not a fan of negativity!