2020 Membership

[Mr_Raditch]

Why wouldn't they mate?

It's only 10- 15 minutes up the road for many of them

It's over the bridges, gotta dig the passports out.

 

[Timmah]

it is the arch enemies home ground
Or at least was

I'm interested in where Sharks fans would like to have played if not Kogarah for 2020 - what was your preference?

 

[Starkers]

best 2 choices were kogarah or wollongong. neither was going to appeal from a rivalry perspective but logic surely prevailed here, a rarity in rugby league.

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

Let's actually review what you've said here:

Your gripe is that some clubs struggle to attract members and perhaps aren't doing enough, particularly in Sydney, yet you're up in arms and focusing on cost of premium seating memberships for being too expensive (which they're supposed to be, they're premium).

For a start they are not premium by any stretch of the imagination but thats not the point. The point is that people are NOT buying season tickets in the proportions that they should be. Every one knows that and you have no suggestions as to why?

Those types of memberships aren't going to be what attract people who currently aren't members into being members.

No they are not as they are a rip off as the uptake numbers prove

General admission memberships and flexi ticket plans are going to be what gets those more casual fans through the door.

Flexi Ticket memberships are good. The GA are not. No one in their right mind wants to sit in those seats. Are you at all aware as to where they are?


My point is - if you're going to get upset about the cost of memberships being a deterrent to people joining, you're better off starting at the entry point, which in most clubs' cases is GA.


Im not upset about it at all. What WORRIES me is the head in the sand and lack of vision displayed by those like you who think the status quo is all hunky dory.


I'll ask you for a 3rd time. Are you a season ticket holder at your club?
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[Timmah]

best 2 choices were kogarah or wollongong. neither was going to appeal from a rivalry perspective but logic surely prevailed here, a rarity in rugby league.

Tend to agree here. Shortest distance and most size-appropriate ground. I presume SCG was considered but would be ludicrous, IMO

 

[carcharias]

I'm interested in where Sharks fans would like to have played if not Kogarah for 2020 - what was your preference?

Obviously oki is the most convenient
As a Sharks fan it is enemies ground
However, we hate them and their ground.
Us supporters come from a background of playing out of one home ground only- ever in most cases.
It is about rugby league tribalism.
OKI will not be about anything apart from getting the f**k out of there as quick as possible.

personally
I would’ve been ok with a few at OKI
A few at BankWest
The rest on the road.

I have friends who are not renewing.
They can walk to Shark park from home.

 

[Timmah]

For a start they are not premium by any stretch of the imagination but thats not the point. The point is that people are NOT buying season tickets in the proportions that they should be. Every one knows that and you have no suggestions as to why?

The prices you've quoted in various recent posts to which I took exception - your claim of over $2k for a family at Essendon, and your $1k+ for South Sydney were both in the upper tiers of membership. That's not opinion, that's fact. You don't get to claim they aren't premium because you think the ground is crap or some other inane reason.

It has always been the case in all sports since membership was a thing that less people purchase higher level memberships, because firstly they are more scarce in number, and secondly because they're designed so not everyone can afford them. To focus on these higher priced memberships is completely pointless to the discussion - we need to be discussing how better GA memberships can be priced to pull in as many fans as possible.

No they are not as they are a rip off as the uptake numbers prove

As above - premium is premium for a reason.

Flexi Ticket memberships are good. The GA are not. No one in their right mind wants to sit in those seats. Are you at all aware as to where they are?

Flexi = good, GA = bad? Flexi memberships are almost always GA across the clubs that offer it. And yes I know where GA seats are, all clubs and ticketing agents produce venue maps.

Im not upset about it at all. What WORRIES me is the head in the sand and lack of vision displayed by those like you who think the status quo is all hunky dory.

Your continued resorting to ad hominem rubbish in this discussion notwithstanding, I'd love to know where you think I've said "the status quo is all hunky dory". Clubs have plenty of work to do in both pricing and numbers when it comes to memberships. A handful of clubs seem to be regressing - Canterbury and the Dragons seem to have stagnated or gone backwards lately, for example.

I'll ask you for a 3rd time. Are you a season ticket holder at your club?

I am baffled as to why you think this is so relevant that you need to repeatedly ask it when it holds zero relevance apart from a perceived ground to attack me from. Of course I am and have been for 15+ years.

 

[Timmah]

Obviously oki is the most convenient
As a Sharks fan it is enemies ground
However, we hate them and their ground.
Us supporters come from a background of playing out of one home ground only- ever in most cases.
It is about rugby league tribalism.
OKI will not be about anything apart from getting the f**k out of there as quick as possible.

personally
I would’ve been ok with a few at OKI
A few at BankWest
The rest on the road.

I have friends who are not renewing.
They can walk to Shark park from home.

So it's safe to say those friends not renewing probably wouldn't have accepted any venue anyway?

As for Bankwest, really? That's a longggg way from the shire.

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

I am baffled as to why you think this is so relevant that you need to repeatedly ask it when it holds zero relevance apart from a perceived ground to attack me from. Of course I am and have been for 15+ years.

Don't be baffled. It is relevant question when discussing that exact topic. A subject that you are so defensive about and seemed to avoid wanting to answer

Have you a family membership and how much does it cost you?

 

[carcharias]

So it's safe to say those friends not renewing probably wouldn't have accepted any venue anyway?

As for Bankwest, really? That's a longggg way from the shire.

no they wouldn’t have
A massive part for them is the social side of it.
We all sit together
We all take kids.
They can have beers and walk home.
Easy.

BankWest looks awesome
A few games there in the entire season is not that big a deal for a supporter like me , who goes to every home game.

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

Obviously oki is the most convenient
As a Sharks fan it is enemies ground
However, we hate them and their ground.
Us supporters come from a background of playing out of one home ground only- ever in most cases.
It is about rugby league tribalism.
OKI will not be about anything apart from getting the f**k out of there as quick as possible.

personally
I would’ve been ok with a few at OKI
A few at BankWest
The rest on the road.

I have friends who are not renewing.
They can walk to Shark park from home.

I get what you're saying about the comfort of the walk hom but how many would that apply to?

For your club it's a short term issue for the greater good so why is that "tribalism" being thrown out the door by the fans?

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

Flexi = good, GA = bad? Flexi memberships are almost always GA across the clubs that offer it. And yes I know where GA seats are, all clubs and ticketing agents produce venue maps.

Well then you know that the GA tickets are far worse. Behind the dead ball in the corners for nearly $600 and most people would get to all the games.
Hence is woeful value compared to the flexi which are a lot cheaper, as a total and by far better seats

 

[Timmah]

Don't be baffled. It is relevant question when discussing that exact topic. A subject that you are so defensive about and seemed to avoid wanting to answer

Have you a family membership and how much does it cost you?

No, it's an attempt by you to distract from the issue being discussed and opening the door for personal attacks. You already labelled me a keyboard warrior earlier in the thread.

Well then you know that the GA tickets are far worse. Behind the dead ball in the corners for nearly $600 and most people would get to all the games.
Hence is woeful value compared to the flexi which are a lot cheaper, as a total and by far better seats

Flexi tickets are GA seating, how do you figure they are "by far better seats"?

You're just trolling now.

 

[Timmah]

BankWest looks awesome
A few games there in the entire season is not that big a deal for a supporter like me , who goes to every home game.

I completely get it - I think Bankwest is a great idea for the Dogs, Tigers and even Souths (obviously Parra too), but I just don't know that the distance - even for one season - would go down well with the lions share of the Cronulla fanbase? Like for how many people would the great facilities etc outweigh the distance facotr?

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

No, it's an attempt by you to distract from the issue being discussed and opening the door for personal attacks. You already labelled me a keyboard warrior earlier in the thread.


We'll have to agree to disagree on that one

Flexi tickets are GA seating, how do you figure they are "by far better seats"?

No they are not. Here is a link for you to look at.
Flexi starts at the 20m line not behind the dead ball as the GA does

https://membership.rabbitohs.com.au/flexi-three-five/

https://membership.rabbitohs.com.au/flexi-three-five/

You're just trolling now

Rubbish, I suggest you posts have been trolling from my original post but hey. you see it differently

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[carcharias]

I completely get it - I think Bankwest is a great idea for the Dogs, Tigers and even Souths (obviously Parra too), but I just don't know that the distance - even for one season - would go down well with the lions share of the Cronulla fanbase? Like for how many people would the great facilities etc outweigh the distance facotr?

If you have to catch a train to Kogarah ( Which I will be )
Why not go all the way to parra a few times a year?

if they were user friendly time slots and against another Sydney team , I think you’d get pretty good support.


knowing that idiot in charge of the NRL it would be a either a Thursday night or Sunday night against the Titans.

 

[Timmah]

No they are not. Here is a link for you to look at.
Flexi starts at the 20m line not behind the dead ball as the GA does

https://membership.rabbitohs.com.au/flexi-three-five/

Congratulations on finding the outlier among the 16 clubs.

Broncos flexi = GA: https://am.ticketmaster.com/brisbanebroncos/4gameflexi#/
Raiders flexi = GA: https://www.raiders.com.au/membership/packages/part-season/flexi-3/
Bulldogs flexi = GA: https://www.bulldogs.com.au/membership/packages/flexi/flexi-5/
Sharks flexi = GA: https://sharks.memberlink.net.au/memberhome
Titans flexi = GA: https://am.ticketmaster.com/goldcoasttitans/Packages/FlexiPass#/
Manly flexi = GA: https://www.seaeagles.com.au/membership/packages/reserved-seating/5-game-flexi/
Storm flexi = GA: https://www.melbournestorm.com.au/membership/packages/general-admission/flexi-10/
Knights flexi = GA: https://knightshub.com.au/membership/packages/flexi-12/
Panthers flexi = GA: https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/membership/packages/part-season/6-ticket-flexi/
Rabbitohs flexi = dedicated bays: https://membership.rabbitohs.com.au/flexi-three-five/
Dragons flexi = GA: https://www.dragons.com.au/membership/packages/part-season/flexi-3/
Roosters flexi = GA: https://am.ticketmaster.com/roosters/flexi-membership#/
Warriors flexi = GA: https://www.warriors.kiwi/membership/packages/part-season/the-interchange/

Cowboys, Eels and Wests Tigers don't offer a flexi membership.

So yes, apart from South Sydney (whose GA membership is the most expensive in the comp, mind you), flexi memberships are for GA seating areas.

 

[Timmah]

If you have to catch a train to Kogarah ( Which I will be )
Why not go all the way to parra a few times a year?

Well I suppose the logic there is it's what, one train, two tops, to get to Carlton, where as it could be as many as three to get to Parramatta, and more than double the journey time?

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

Congratulations on finding the outlier among the 16 clubs.

Broncos flexi = GA: https://am.ticketmaster.com/brisbanebroncos/4gameflexi#/
Raiders flexi = GA: https://www.raiders.com.au/membership/packages/part-season/flexi-3/
Bulldogs flexi = GA: https://www.bulldogs.com.au/membership/packages/flexi/flexi-5/
Sharks flexi = GA: https://sharks.memberlink.net.au/memberhome
Titans flexi = GA: https://am.ticketmaster.com/goldcoasttitans/Packages/FlexiPass#/
Manly flexi = GA: https://www.seaeagles.com.au/membership/packages/reserved-seating/5-game-flexi/
Storm flexi = GA: https://www.melbournestorm.com.au/membership/packages/general-admission/flexi-10/
Knights flexi = GA: https://knightshub.com.au/membership/packages/flexi-12/
Panthers flexi = GA: https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/membership/packages/part-season/6-ticket-flexi/
Rabbitohs flexi = dedicated bays: https://membership.rabbitohs.com.au/flexi-three-five/
Dragons flexi = GA: https://www.dragons.com.au/membership/packages/part-season/flexi-3/
Roosters flexi = GA: https://am.ticketmaster.com/roosters/flexi-membership#/
Warriors flexi = GA: https://www.warriors.kiwi/membership/packages/part-season/the-interchange/

Cowboys, Eels and Wests Tigers don't offer a flexi membership.

So yes, apart from South Sydney (whose GA membership is the most expensive in the comp, mind you), flexi memberships are for GA seating areas.

Once again, it was clear that we we talking souths.

 

[carcharias]

Well I suppose the logic there is it's what, one train, two tops, to get to Carlton, where as it could be as many as three to get to Parramatta, and more than double the journey time?

The logic is

BankWest is about a billion times more inviting than OKI.
There is a heap of other entertainment and food options in its doorstep too.

oki has a prehistoric leagues club or a pub a mile away.