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2020 NRL Nines February 14-15

Gary Gutful

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Curiously enough so would most cricketers... There's gotta be a couple of good PhDs in that
So in all seriousness, as a cricket fan and player where do you see the sport at the moment?

I played as kid and loved it and also used to watch every game religiously from around 1992-2005. My gut feeling is that it is struggling since the glory days of McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist etc but I am genuinely interested in the views of someone more knowledgeable.
 

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So in all seriousness, as a cricket fan and player where do you see the sport at the moment?

I played as kid and loved it and also used to watch every game religiously from around 1992-2005. My gut feeling is that it is struggling since the glory days of McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist etc but I am genuinely interested in the views of someone more knowledgeable.

The growing bias towards the big three in Australia, England and India has basically created a situation where the rest of the world is becoming second tier, in both importance and ability. India tours here every two or three years, but we see the Windies or Pakistan or Sri Lanka once every ten years. So there's a huge sense of sameness about the schedule. Even the Ashes has lost a bit of its appeal.

At the same time you've got this idea that all tests must go the full five days because money. So pitches get flatter in Australia and tests get more and more lifeless. David Warners triple century was the most ho-hum big score of all time... Yay, two days of a bloke bullying teenagers on a strip of concrete from Rundle Mall. Thrilling.

Our flat decks plus other countries never touring here means we can't bat overseas anymore and we thrash all comers here. The nuance and struggle of Test cricket is largely gone. Home teams just win more often than not.

T20s and ODIs can't coexist at International level. It's an over saturation that comes off as a cynical grab for that bit extra cash. India are in NZ at the moment and they managed to shoehorn five T20s into the tour. I enjoy T20, but at international level it serves no purpose. And it cheapens the World Cup when you have a T20 World Cup every couple of years. T20s should be franchise only. Even then the BBL is three weeks too long and half full of grade cricketers who aren't much better than I am. And that's not trying to talk myself up because some of these players are legitimately rubbish cricketers. The Sixers have a bloke on the books who couldn't get out of the two's in Canberra.

In terms of Australia I don't think we have an overly likeable team. Warner is a total merkin and Smith is a genius but has zero notable personality. The public for some reason seem to hate Tim Paine, the one guy you would think they would like given he's come from nowhere, fallen into the captaincy by virtue of being the only bloke left, and turned us from cheating losers into a respectable side. Plus he's a great bloke. The bowlers are pretty popular but beyond that everyone is pretty much beige. So even when we win there's kind of this sense of so what? Who are these blokes anyway?

TLDR Australia England and India are killing cricket.
 

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So in all seriousness, as a cricket fan and player where do you see the sport at the moment?

I played as kid and loved it and also used to watch every game religiously from around 1992-2005. My gut feeling is that it is struggling since the glory days of McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist etc but I am genuinely interested in the views of someone more knowledgeable.
Ol' mate Bazal makes some pertinent points. For me (I'm glad you asked), cricket is like any other sport. It will continue on as long as there are dollars to be made.
 
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I think to fix cricket you need to make it more global. Get the US involved. Instead of a wicket there could be three bases. And triangular bats.
 

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I have lost a fair bit of interest in cricket, but i always thought it was cos im getting older with the attention span of a fish

I didnt mind the BBL the first few years but not so much now, even tho my Toffs won it.

Good summary of the team Baz ... Smith is a genius player but a bit odd .... didnt realise people didnt like Paine. He did commentary late in the BBL and was quite good. People love our bowlers though. Pat, Haze, Mitch and of course the man so popular they renamed him after Mr Gutful
 

Twizzle

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white ball cricket really is destroying the traditional game and much like league, the constant use of replays of close up scrutiny with new technology has exposed a lot of umpiring flaws/decisions much like the bunker and they still never get it right

our last game of test cricket was something like week 1 in January this year, not even half way through summer but hey, the big wank makes more money

now they are trialing stump cams to call no balls in the upcoming women's world cup, may as well just use stump bots and get rid of the umpires
 

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Baz with an excellent summary where cricket is at, and I think the standard has dropped quite alarmingly the last decade. Supposed top tier nations like South Africa, Sri Lanka and the West Indies are down right awful atm. Besides the fact the game favours the batters far too much, which makes it less predictable and boring.
 

Bazal

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Baz with an excellent summary where cricket is at, and I think the standard has dropped quite alarmingly the last decade. Supposed top tier nations like South Africa, Sri Lanka and the West Indies are down right awful atm. Besides the fact the game favours the batters far too much, which makes it less predictable and boring.

Yeah the standard is a function of decks and lack of tours. Sri Lanka will obviously stagnate if they basically just play Zimbabwe and Bangladesh at home all the time. And then get used as a practice girl by India once a year
 

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The growing bias towards the big three in Australia, England and India has basically created a situation where the rest of the world is becoming second tier, in both importance and ability. India tours here every two or three years, but we see the Windies or Pakistan or Sri Lanka once every ten years. So there's a huge sense of sameness about the schedule. Even the Ashes has lost a bit of its appeal.

At the same time you've got this idea that all tests must go the full five days because money. So pitches get flatter in Australia and tests get more and more lifeless. David Warners triple century was the most ho-hum big score of all time... Yay, two days of a bloke bullying teenagers on a strip of concrete from Rundle Mall. Thrilling.

Our flat decks plus other countries never touring here means we can't bat overseas anymore and we thrash all comers here. The nuance and struggle of Test cricket is largely gone. Home teams just win more often than not.

T20s and ODIs can't coexist at International level. It's an over saturation that comes off as a cynical grab for that bit extra cash. India are in NZ at the moment and they managed to shoehorn five T20s into the tour. I enjoy T20, but at international level it serves no purpose. And it cheapens the World Cup when you have a T20 World Cup every couple of years. T20s should be franchise only. Even then the BBL is three weeks too long and half full of grade cricketers who aren't much better than I am. And that's not trying to talk myself up because some of these players are legitimately rubbish cricketers. The Sixers have a bloke on the books who couldn't get out of the two's in Canberra.

In terms of Australia I don't think we have an overly likeable team. Warner is a total merkin and Smith is a genius but has zero notable personality. The public for some reason seem to hate Tim Paine, the one guy you would think they would like given he's come from nowhere, fallen into the captaincy by virtue of being the only bloke left, and turned us from cheating losers into a respectable side. Plus he's a great bloke. The bowlers are pretty popular but beyond that everyone is pretty much beige. So even when we win there's kind of this sense of so what? Who are these blokes anyway?

TLDR Australia England and India are killing cricket.

Excellently put.

Though I reckon Marnus Labuschagne is a very likable fellow.

Brilliant cricketer, too.
 

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