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2020 Rabbitohs Rumours, Signings and News

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callmack1 said:
Man, we need a decision from him soon!
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Looking more likely he stays bro. We are taking a big gamble on this kid, from what I’ve heard he’s a freak but 500,000 a season is a hell of a lot of money to spend on a 17 year old.

Man if AJ leaves I’m gonna be in mourning for a while, it’d hit me hard and some may say that’s silly but AJ is a fine winger and he would be on track to be Souths best ever greatest try scorer. You don’t find to many with as much pace as him either who can just zoom away even with just a tiny bit of space or room to work with. Also as he was up and coming and was in our 2014 premiership team.
 
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callmack1 said:
I am a big fan of the Arrow signing personally. I reckon he's what we need to go to that next level.
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I’ve heard it’s more on that 700k figure a season as well out of the cap and not the 800k some are saying.

Issue with Arrow is the last couple of seasons he’s been quite injury prone. I think we have paid a little overs for him but I see why we have done it. He’s certainly not a Sam Burgess but he will add a lot to us and probs allows Murray to move to left second row as well.

I really wanna see us keep Koloamatangi and Sironen as well. Geez it’s gonna be hard to keep them all. If we had to let Amone and Dillon go then I would be for sure if it meant we keep Koloa and Siro.

Rodwell is probs one to hold onto as well and he’s quite promising I have heard. He wouldn’t cost anymore than minimum wage to keep.

I wonder what will happen with Lowe? I guess there may be a chance he goes to England or is medically retired?

Certainly exciting and interesting times for us.
 
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Rabbits20 said:
I’ve heard talk as well that Allan is on 300-350k which is way overs if true.

We have tried to offload him but no one wants him.
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Apparently rumour has it we tried swopping Allen and Knight for Arrow but was rejected.
Which is good in my opinion.
Arrow has been average this year. Allens problem i think is his lack of speed. He is however a decent defender and FB is his position rather than wing, as we all saw last week he stepped up when latrell went off and even though he has been named on the wing this week my mail says he will be at FB perhaps swopping with AJ, defending at wing attacking at FB
 
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Arrow is a leader, something that is currently lacking in the Souths forward pack. His workload will see guys like Koala, Mago and Amone flourish, as well as taking pressure off Murray.

He's not going to win a Dally M but he is going to win a lot of games of footy with Souths.
 
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Travitoh said:
Arrow is a leader, something that is currently lacking in the Souths forward pack. His workload will see guys like Koala, Mago and Amone flourish, as well as taking pressure off Murray.

He's not going to win a Dally M but he is going to win a lot of games of footy with Souths.
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I understand you saying he will take pressure off Murray etc. but I would point out to you that Sirronen is certainly doing a capable job as is Sua. Those performances are taking pressure off everybody. Its fair to say that Lowe does not have the same impact and probably won't make firsts even if he recovers.

I recognize that Arrow is playing in a side with a defense problem which makes his efforts less apparent but its hard to go past the improvements in the guys Souths have now and I would hate to lose them to another side when they are the future.
 
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So in regards to cap space and keeping money, how long is Dane Gagai signed on for? He's on 750k a season which is more than enough for a decent half-back. Problem is their isn't a lot of decent half-backs getting around
 
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NovoBunny94 said:
So in regards to cap space and keeping money, how long is Dane Gagai signed on for? He's on 750k a season which is more than enough for a decent half-back. Problem is their isn't a lot of decent half-backs getting around
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Why is Souths looking for an half back.
 
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BotanyBorn&Bred said:
Yeah I agree about the forwards, and yes I saw and remember the Charity Shield, I agree with you on that.

Remember when we signed Luke Lewis, and then he backed out? How is it that the players can do that to clubs but not vice versa? I'm sure Arrow could be offloaded, but we'd probably have to chip in 100-200K per year, which would mean the person who made that deal would get their arse kicked, so I doubt it would happen, but I'd be getting the lawyers to see if we could get out of that deal, like Luke Lewis did to us.

But sorry Brother, I can't see it with Campbell playing fullback. Has he played there before?
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Problem with Johnston at fullback is he won't tackle hard, he can't stop attacking opposition close to his line (anywhere close) he won't return hard because he won't put his body on the line. He can take an high ball, he can run very quickly into a gap and he does put his supports into holes because he's got a very good passing game cos he has soft hands.
The team needs a fullback who can stop an opposition guy in his tracks, Johnston aint that guy.

Allen is a very good player who can take an high ball, he can tackle and he can finish if he hasn't got to far to run, he will put his body on the line. Problem is he is very slow.

Campbell Graham will put his body on the line, time and time again. Graham will tackle and stop most opposition in its tracks, he can take an high ball. He will put his body on the line when returning a kick (almost kamakazi against Parra on the weekend). Graham is a lot faster than Allen.

So, if Souths move Graham to fullback and Johnston to wing, the team loses no speed, that is if Johnston is back of course, and, the team may also have the luxury of Gagai to put in the centres but I got a say Master's is playing extremely well there, and I will admit I may have been wrong and Jason Paully (?) is playing very well on the other wing.

So, what about that, brother.

Oh, I do remember that Lewis fiasco, he was a good purchase but, when he changed his mind, Souths let him go. Didn't Gould have something to do with changing his mind?
 
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Travitoh said:
Arrow is a leader, something that is currently lacking in the Souths forward pack. His workload will see guys like Koala, Mago and Amone flourish, as well as taking pressure off Murray.

He's not going to win a Dally M but he is going to win a lot of games of footy with Souths.
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Well i hope your right,it may be him knowing he is leaving has affected his play this season, ive been watching and i dont think he is putting in, i cant see him talking out there,he has taken a back seat approach which i hope he changes next year
 
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assess5 said:
I understand you saying he will take pressure off Murray etc. but I would point out to you that Sirronen is certainly doing a capable job as is Sua. Those performances are taking pressure off everybody. Its fair to say that Lowe does not have the same impact and probably won't make firsts even if he recovers.

I recognize that Arrow is playing in a side with a defense problem which makes his efforts less apparent but its hard to go past the improvements in the guys Souths have now and I would hate to lose them to another side when they are the future.
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Ive got to say i was wrong, at the beginning of the season i was predicting a 10th to 12th spot finish because of the apparent lack of quality in our forwards, but yes they have stepped up and performed and i wouldnt want to lose any,though i have heard the tigers are interested in siro.
 
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assess5 said:
Problem with Johnston at fullback is he won't tackle hard, he can't stop attacking opposition close to his line (anywhere close) he won't return hard because he won't put his body on the line. He can take an high ball, he can run very quickly into a gap and he does put his supports into holes because he's got a very good passing game cos he has soft hands.
The team needs a fullback who can stop an opposition guy in his tracks, Johnston aint that guy.

Allen is a very good player who can take an high ball, he can tackle and he can finish if he hasn't got to far to run, he will put his body on the line. Problem is he is very slow.

Campbell Graham will put his body on the line, time and time again. Graham will tackle and stop most opposition in its tracks, he can take an high ball. He will put his body on the line when returning a kick (almost kamakazi against Parra on the weekend). Graham is a lot faster than Allen.

So, if Souths move Graham to fullback and Johnston to wing, the team loses no speed, that is if Johnston is back of course, and, the team may also have the luxury of Gagai to put in the centres but I got a say Master's is playing extremely well there, and I will admit I may have been wrong and Jason Paully (?) is playing very well on the other wing.

So, what about that, brother.

Oh, I do remember that Lewis fiasco, he was a good purchase but, when he changed his mind, Souths let him go. Didn't Gould have something to do with changing his mind?
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I agree with your analysis pluses and minuses for each. My thinking is we definitely need speedsters on the outside, so that crosses out Allen on the wing, and I always thought AJ is better as a wing than fullback. Allen has played fullback pretty much his whole upbringing so he knows where he should position himself, and he is good under the high ball. In attacking backline movements he just needs ball playing ability and passing, he doesnt need to be a speedster if all the other guys are quick. So while neither situation is ideal, in the absence of Latrell, I think Wayne will go with Allen at the back because he has the experience, and we maintain speed on the outside with AJ.

About Lewis, I think Gould was in his ear, wouldn't surprise me, the dude has never liked Souths. He must be tainted with Roosters blood. Just remind me, Lewis knocked us back before we got Roy Asotasi to sign with us?
 
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Problem with Johnston at fullback is he won't tackle hard, he can't stop attacking opposition close to his line (anywhere close) he won't return hard because he won't put his body on the line. He can take an high ball, he can run very quickly into a gap and he does put his supports into holes because he's got a very good passing game cos he has soft hands.
The team needs a fullback who can stop an opposition guy in his tracks, Johnston aint that guy.

Allen is a very good player who can take an high ball, he can tackle and he can finish if he hasn't got to far to run, he will put his body on the line. Problem is he is very slow.

Campbell Graham will put his body on the line, time and time again. Graham will tackle and stop most opposition in its tracks, he can take an high ball. He will put his body on the line when returning a kick (almost kamakazi against Parra on the weekend). Graham is a lot faster than Allen.

So, if Souths move Graham to fullback and Johnston to wing, the team loses no speed, that is if Johnston is back of course, and, the team may also have the luxury of Gagai to put in the centres but I got a say Master's is playing extremely well there, and I will admit I may have been wrong and Jason Paully (?) is playing very well on the other wing.

So, what about that, brother.

Oh, I do remember that Lewis fiasco, he was a good purchase but, when he changed his mind, Souths let him go. Didn't Gould have something to do with changing his mind?
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I agree with your analysis pluses and minuses for each. My thinking is we definitely need speedsters on the outside, so that crosses out Allen on the wing, and I always thought AJ is better as a wing than fullback. Allen has played fullback pretty much his whole upbringing so he knows where he should position himself, and he is good under the high ball. In attacking backline movements he just needs ball playing ability and passing, he doesnt need to be a speedster if all the other guys are quick. So while neither situation is ideal, in the absence of Latrell, I think Wayne will go with Allen at the back because he has the experience, and we maintain speed on the outside with AJ.

About Lewis, I think Gould was in his ear, wouldn't surprise me, the dude has never liked Souths. He must be tainted with Roosters blood. Just remind me, Lewis knocked us back before we got Roy Asotasi to sign with us?
 
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BotanyBorn&Bred said:
I agree with your analysis pluses and minuses for each. My thinking is we definitely need speedsters on the outside, so that crosses out Allen on the wing, and I always thought AJ is better as a wing than fullback. Allen has played fullback pretty much his whole upbringing so he knows where he should position himself, and he is good under the high ball. In attacking backline movements he just needs ball playing ability and passing, he doesnt need to be a speedster if all the other guys are quick. So while neither situation is ideal, in the absence of Latrell, I think Wayne will go with Allen at the back because he has the experience, and we maintain speed on the outside with AJ.

About Lewis, I think Gould was in his ear, wouldn't surprise me, the dude has never liked Souths. He must be tainted with Roosters blood. Just remind me, Lewis knocked us back before we got Roy Asotasi to sign with us?
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We got Asotasi when when Rusty bought the Rabbits, I think, and I'm not sure, but I think the Lewis episode was a season or two before that.
Souths have always had the attitude that if a player wants to go elsewhere then thats where they can go - which is fair enough.
 
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We got Asotasi when when Rusty bought the Rabbits, I think, and I'm not sure, but I think the Lewis episode was a season or two before that.
Souths have always had the attitude that if a player wants to go elsewhere then thats where they can go - which is fair enough.
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Yeah the reason I brought this up is because, as I remember it, Lewis chickened out because he didn't want to a sign with a club that was struggling to attract players, and struggling on the ladder.

Roy got presented with the same prospects and still signed on, and that signing was the beginning of the change where players WANTED to play with Souths, culminating with the GI signing, and then winning the GF in 2014.

For that, I will always be grateful to Roy for getting the snowball rolling
 
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