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2020 Rabbitohs Rumours, Signings and News

Rabbits20

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www.nrl.com/news/2019/12/21/line-break-king-why-new-walker-deal-is-huge-for-souths-title-hopes/

Rabbitohs star Cody Walker has been a huge part of the team's attacking prowess since his 2016 debut, transforming the club's left-side attack into a potent weapon despite the comings and goings of some huge names.

Walker's phenomenal attacking input has been married to a remarkable consistency – just one game missed through injury in four years at NRL level.

He was handed a chance in early 2016 with first Luke Keary and then Adam Reynolds unavailable; he was briefly dropped for four weeks once both returned but has since missed just two club games – one of those on Origin duty.

Walker was shuffled between the halves and fullback by coach Michael Maguire in his first two seasons but the departure of Luke Keary and the change of coach to first Anthony Seibold then Wayne Bennett has resulted in Walker becoming a permanent fixture in the cardinal and myrtle No.6 jersey, marshalling that left-side attack for Souths.

In his four years in the NRL he has seen the brilliant attacking presence of Greg Inglis phase in and out due to injury before retiring at the start of 2019.

Veteran ball-playing edge forward and skilled offloader John Sutton has also moved in and out of that role – though he has been ever-present over the past two years.

Campbell Graham, Braidon Burns, Alex Johnston, Robert Jennings, Hymel Hunt and others have all been key parts of that left side attack at different times.

But the one constant over the past few years has been Walker, and there is one stat that underscores just how potent of an attacking weapon he has been.

By tallying up the line break contributions (line breaks made plus line breaks assisted) for every player in the NRL over the past two regular seasons, Walker comes out well on top with 65 (31 breaks and 34 assists).

A pair of Roosters stars in James Tedesco (58) and Latrell Mitchell (54) are next, with Knights prodigy Kalyn Ponga (50) the only other player to hit 50 in that time. Just seven more players have 40 or more LB contributions.

The numbers get even more stark when you tally the figures over the past four seasons. This shows Walker really hit the ground running from the time of his debut, and contributed strongly regardless of whether he was at fullback or in the halves.

Over the past four years of regular season games, Walker has a stunning 129 line break contributions. Tom Trbojevic (113), Tedesco (105), Mitchell (101) and Cameron Munster (101) are the only other players with over 100 in that period.

Making those numbers even more remarkable is the disruption Souths endured in Walker's first two seasons, in which they missed the finals both years (finishing 12th both years) and scoring fewer points than any of the top eight sides.

The other key take-out from the list is just how dominant Mitchell has been for the Roosters, despite criticism that he does not get involved enough in games.

Every other player in the top 10 for LB contributions wears jersey No.1, 6 or 7. The next non-playmaker on the list below Mitchell is Raiders centre Joey Leilua with 70.

Mitchell's immediate contractual future remains up in the air and while Redfern is an unlikely landing place, it is not impossible.

If Mitchell did make the move to the Roosters' cross-town rivals to effectively replace 2019 retiree Greg Inglis – the player to whom he is so often compared – it potentially would pair the two most dominant left-side attackers in the NRL, which is a tantalising thought for Rabbitohs fans.




2016-19

Cody: 67 LB assists and 62 Line Breaks total of 129
Tommy T: 42 LB assists and 71 Line Breaks total of 113
Tedesco 41 LB assists and 64 Line Breaks total of 105
Mitchell 43 LB assists and 60 Line Breaks total of 103
Munster 61 LB assists and 40 Line Breaks total of 101
Johnson 59 LB assists and 36 Line Breaks total of 95
Milford 51 LB assists and 39 Line Breaks total of 90
Keary 57 LB assists and 30 Line Breaks total of 87
Moylan 62 LB assists and 21 Line Breaks total of 83
DCE 59 LB assists and 20 Line Breaks total of 79
 

Champion99

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Well it hasn’t seem to have been addressed in years, either that or he’s not capable of being a strong defender.

Defence wins games and for a player on around 700k he has to be better not be hot and cold.

I just don’t get why he can play great for QLD but can’t be close to that consistent at club level!


By the way re Addo Carr, If Storm get a quality winger in return they would be willing to release Addo Carr at end of 2020.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/12/20/storm-set-to-release-addo-carr-after-2020/
Defence does win games but for your info players who have missed the same amount or more tackles for season 2019 include Adam Reynolds,Jack Wighton,Victor Radley, Mitchell Moses,Josh Hogdson,Elliott Whitehead,Cameron Munster,Angus Crichton,Gavin Cooper, just to name a few even Tevita Pangia Junior missed 61 from 18 games played so tell me there isn’t anyone on that list you wouldn’t want playing in the red and green and quite a few of those players would be on more than Gagai all I was addressing is the lack of support for those who give 100% for our club week in week out I will repeat I have never seen Dane not give 100% or lay down I guess I am just passionate and supportive of the players we have now
I am going to agree with you and disagree with you. Gagai always gives :100: %. He is always willing to take the ball out of the danger zone.

The issue though is that his defence is below first grade standard. This season he made 285 tackles and missed 62. It is compounded by where he misses tackles often allowing clean breaks. Wouldn’t be many regular first graders tackling at 76%

If he can work on his technique and get his confidence he could be a real asset. But the issue must be addressed.
 

handyman2190

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Defence does win games but for your info players who have missed the same amount or more tackles for season 2019 include Adam Reynolds,Jack Wighton,Victor Radley, Mitchell Moses,Josh Hogdson,Elliott Whitehead,Cameron Munster,Angus Crichton,Gavin Cooper, just to name a few even Tevita Pangia Junior missed 61 from 18 games played so tell me there isn’t anyone on that list you wouldn’t want playing in the red and green and quite a few of those players would be on more than Gagai all I was addressing is the lack of support for those who give 100% for our club week in week out I will repeat I have never seen Dane not give 100% or lay down I guess I am just passionate and supportive of the players we have now
Ok now i agree, the evidence when put that way makes sense, even with his faults he does give 100%
I just think latrell is more potent and worth the money
 

Rabbit57

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Defence does win games but for your info players who have missed the same amount or more tackles for season 2019 include Adam Reynolds,Jack Wighton,Victor Radley, Mitchell Moses,Josh Hogdson,Elliott Whitehead,Cameron Munster,Angus Crichton,Gavin Cooper, just to name a few even Tevita Pangia Junior missed 61 from 18 games played so tell me there isn’t anyone on that list you wouldn’t want playing in the red and green and quite a few of those players would be on more than Gagai all I was addressing is the lack of support for those who give 100% for our club week in week out I will repeat I have never seen Dane not give 100% or lay down I guess I am just passionate and supportive of the players we have now
It is not simply the number of missed tackles ... if you are attempting more your going to miss some. Some of those guys are making over 800 tackles in a season compared with Gagais 285.
Of the players you have listed Moses has a little over 77% efficiency. As a half back he has second rowers running at him all day. The rest are all 80 plus. Crichton, whitehead and Cooper are 87,88,89% efficiency. That’s the standard Gagai needs to get to.

As some have questioned whether that is possible. It is true his defensive misses have been with him for a long time. His defensive stats at Newcastle were worse (admittedly he was playing a very poor Knights team).
 

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Did I just read someone attempting to compare and justify a wingers missed tackle count to that of blokes working their arses off in the middle making 30 or 40 plus tackles every week and small halves being targetted by giant backrowers and props?

FF. Stop it. It is not valid. Ever.

Not only that, the winger is on more than the majority of blokes listed in that rudiculous post.
 
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Champion99

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Did I just read someone attempting to compare and justify a wingers missed tackle count to that of blokes working their arses off in the middle making 30 or 40 plus tackles every week and small halves being targetted by giant backrowers and props?

FF. Stop it. It is not valid. Ever.

Not only that, the winger is on more than the majority of blokes listed in that rudiculous post.
My Apologies Spot on you are right
 

Inkers75

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Having been on the news constantly over here in UK I hope all Sydney and Aussies are keeping safe during the terrible fires you are experiencing. Look out for everyone and be kind in these difficult times.

It's ironic that here in the UK we are experiencing the opposite, too much rain with Major flooding damaging properties and buildings.

Too all Bunnies fans have a safe Christmas and New Year. :christmas_tree:
 

handyman2190

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Having been on the news constantly over here in UK I hope all Sydney and Aussies are keeping safe during the terrible fires you are experiencing. Look out for everyone and be kind in these difficult times.

It's ironic that here in the UK we are experiencing the opposite, too much rain with Major flooding damaging properties and buildings.

Too all Bunnies fans have a safe Christmas and New Year. :christmas_tree:
Thank you for your kind thoughts and wishes and same to you,im sure we all appreciate it
 

Rabbits20

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Having been on the news constantly over here in UK I hope all Sydney and Aussies are keeping safe during the terrible fires you are experiencing. Look out for everyone and be kind in these difficult times.

It's ironic that here in the UK we are experiencing the opposite, too much rain with Major flooding damaging properties and buildings.

Too all Bunnies fans have a safe Christmas and New Year. :christmas_tree:
Thanks mate, my relatives aren’t out of the woods yet.

Same to you, have a lovely and safe Christmas and a Happy start to 2020 and to all other Bunnies diehards on LU!

It’d be awesome to get some good signing news in the next 48 hours, fingers crossed.
 

Rabbits20

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@Peter Quinn If it is true, maybe it means Arrow is staying put up there for 2020 and that we have to wait til 21 which wouldn’t be ideal as you know we have lost 5 forwards and so far not bought any.
 

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