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2020 ratings

Idris 84

Juniors
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NRL headquarters becoming master spruikers these days, i think that's the first time we have beaten afl on Thursday or Friday night since it came back and it was a very minor win, i think channel 9 will be pretty underwhelmed with the results this year. V'landys has definitely got the media on side at the moment though.
 

Idris 84

Juniors
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61
NRL headquarters becoming master spruikers these days, i think that's the first time we have beaten afl on Thursday or Friday night since it came back and it was a very minor win, i think channel 9 will be pretty underwhelmed with the results this year. V'landys has definitely got the media on side at the moment though.
 

tri_colours

Juniors
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377,000 with 226,000 in Sydney and 113,000 in Brisbane.
Rd 7

Thursday
Storm v Roosters
FTA Metro 339k Regional 267k
STV 266k

Friday
Canberra v Dragons
STV 214k

Eels v Cowboys
FTA Metro 274k Regional 203k
STV 246k

Saturday STV
Wests v Panthers 284k
Warriors v Broncos 256k
Titans v Sharks 159k

Sunday
Manly v Knights
FTA Metro 273k
STV 229k

Bulldogs v Rabbits
STV 218k

Ref
https://tvtonight.com.au/category/ratings/
https://www.mediaweek.com.au/category/television/tv-ratings-australia-analysis/



When the Gem numbers are added for Thursday its:
Storm v Roosters 910,000
Nein 644,000
(Metro 377,000 Regional 267,000)
Fox 266,000

When there included Friday :
747,000
Nine 501,000 (Metro 298,000 Regional 203,000)
Fox League 246,00


Media week
 
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T-Boon

Coach
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I think one of the reasons that AFL games rate better than NRL (and are better attended) is that AFL fans love their code a bit more than NRL fans do. The main point is they will watch/attend games that don't involve their team. Whereas I think NRL fans are more likely to not watch a game unless their team is involved. That's me. If Parra are playing Ill watch every second. If they are not I'll tune in and out a bit at best. However, if Parra is having a good season I am more likely to watch neutral games.

Solution: I think you could boost crowds and TV ratings by having 4 conferences of 4 teams each or 3 conferences of 6 teams each. Conferences build rivalries and interest in neutral games. The NRL could even support each conference in advertising and building narratives of rivalry.
Even the construction of the conferences would build controversy and interest.
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
Staff member
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"AFL games rate better than NRL" is true of Free To Air television, which is essentially a dying medium. It's like a news organisation bragging they have the best paper circulation.

And the only reason they're even strong in FTA is because their product is available to more main channel viewers when it's broadcast live - whereas only 2 states and a territory ever take NRL live on their primary FTA channel.
 

taipan

Referee
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"AFL games rate better than NRL" is true of Free To Air television, which is essentially a dying medium. It's like a news organisation bragging they have the best paper circulation.

And the only reason they're even strong in FTA is because their product is available to more main channel viewers when it's broadcast live - whereas only 2 states and a territory ever take NRL live on their primary FTA channel.


What also is not helping the NRL rating's cause on FTA is the pathetic form of the Broncos,and both the Cows and Tits have been very meh so far.Whilst the Qld fumblers are dong well.
The Cows need to knock over the Roosters this week and the Broncos need to start winning.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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"AFL games rate better than NRL" is true of Free To Air television, which is essentially a dying medium. It's like a news organisation bragging they have the best paper circulation.

And the only reason they're even strong in FTA is because their product is available to more main channel viewers when it's broadcast live - whereas only 2 states and a territory ever take NRL live on their primary FTA channel.

Its not dying but it is diminishing, FTA audiences are still triple any other platform. It will exist as tth emain format for many years to come yet.

What we really need is Kayo figures, regional figures every game and for NIne to include the Perth,Melbourne and Adelaide figures in its metro ratings. Then we will get better comparisons of how the two codes are fairing against each other for tv audiences.

Having Ch9 drive audiences away with its terrible coverage isnt helping either.
Be nice in next deal if we had Ch10 give the game some respect and put out a decent product with a Thur,Fri,Sat and Sun game on FTA. I suspect the chances of that are gone as Vlandys would have sold Sat to Fox already for next 7 years.
 

tri_colours

Juniors
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I think one of the reasons that AFL games rate better than NRL (and are better attended) is that AFL fans love their code a bit more than NRL fans do. The main point is they will watch/attend games that don't involve their team. Whereas I think NRL fans are more likely to not watch a game unless their team is involved. That's me. If Parra are playing Ill watch every second. If they are not I'll tune in and out a bit at best. However, if Parra is having a good season I am more likely to watch neutral games.

Solution: I think you could boost crowds and TV ratings by having 4 conferences of 4 teams each or 3 conferences of 6 teams each. Conferences build rivalries and interest in neutral games. The NRL could even support each conference in advertising and building narratives of rivalry.
Even the construction of the conferences would build controversy and interest.

Friday is like there night of nights. Something compels them to watch even if its a blowout and the game is over by quarter time. NRL viewers seem more selective. But there Saturday and Sunday ratings are no better than ours.
 
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Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
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Its not dying but it is diminishing, FTA audiences are still triple any other platform. It will exist as tth emain format for many years to come yet.
You understand that FTA ratings are guesswork, right?
 

colly

Juniors
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Its not dying but it is diminishing, FTA audiences are still triple any other platform. It will exist as tth emain format for many years to come yet.

What we really need is Kayo figures, regional figures every game and for NIne to include the Perth,Melbourne and Adelaide figures in its metro ratings. Then we will get better comparisons of how the two codes are fairing against each other for tv audiences.

Having Ch9 drive audiences away with its terrible coverage isnt helping either.
Be nice in next deal if we had Ch10 give the game some respect and put out a decent product with a Thur,Fri,Sat and Sun game on FTA. I suspect the chances of that are gone as Vlandys would have sold Sat to Fox already for next 7 years.
Nine have or own, NBN- Newcastle Broadcast New-SW Which has according to them close to 2 million population stretching from the Central coast to the Gold Coast border/ however many Gold Coasters pick up the signal and watch NBN. I remember the lasts TV rights negotiations with Nine saying how much Rugby League means to this area.
https://www.nbnnews.com.au/about-us/
So Nine don't really bother to much with the 5 cites/Metro figures and I am sure they their adverting dollars they write has the North coast NSW ( I did not forget QLD rural) tightly targeted and so rating wise, to these areas.
 
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I've argued before that NRL clubs would go in to regional ratings more than AFL.

Hell...one is international ratings.

Canberra / Riverina
St George-Illawarra / South Coast
All those on the Central Coast.
All those in the Newcastle / Hunter area.
All those in the Northern NSW catchment with Newcastle etc.
Gold Coast
Central / Rural Qld
North Qld.
and
NZ


All well and good for "oh...AFL are trouncing us" but none of their teams...perhaps if we exclude Gold Coast, maybe Geelong, are based in areas outside of this arbitrary 5 Metro system.

And considering Qld and NSW have a large %age of the Australian population, and would likely to be watching RL, and their "regional" team, then you'd have to say a lot more people than are counted watch NRL.

At the end of the day, the ratings aren't apples for apples.
 

The_Wookie

Bench
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"AFL games rate better than NRL" is true of Free To Air television, which is essentially a dying medium. It's like a news organisation bragging they have the best paper circulation.

And the only reason they're even strong in FTA is because their product is available to more main channel viewers when it's broadcast live - whereas only 2 states and a territory ever take NRL live on their primary FTA channel.

Thats mostly true for the AFL as well though. generally most games in NSW, QLD and even WA are on 7mate.SA, Victoria and Tasmania are always primary channel (even if Tasmania is regional), but the combined population would be less than NSW/QLD

I've argued before that NRL clubs would go in to regional ratings more than AFL.

Regional ratings are counted though, including Northern and Southern New South Wales.

Theres no data for NZ that would be accurate, and I cant get any for the UK.

NZ matches in 2015 averaged 27k with 5 games a week shown. Warriors games averaged 122k. theres been no data since.

There is no UK, Canada or US data. US data in 2017 when it was last available gave a narrow average win to the AFL (we're talking the difference between 1-3k, and total ratings were in the US margin for error). US ratings are rare as hens teeth at that level now.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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Thats mostly true for the AFL as well though. generally most games in NSW, QLD and even WA are on 7mate.SA, Victoria and Tasmania are always primary channel (even if Tasmania is regional), but the combined population would be less than NSW/QLD



Regional ratings are counted though, including Northern and Southern New South Wales.

Theres no data for NZ that would be accurate, and I cant get any for the UK.

NZ matches in 2015 averaged 27k with 5 games a week shown. Warriors games averaged 122k. theres been no data since.

There is no UK, Canada or US data. US data in 2017 when it was last available gave a narrow average win to the AFL (we're talking the difference between 1-3k, and total ratings were in the US margin for error). US ratings are rare as hens teeth at that level now.
Yeah true for NRL but not for RL in the UK.
 

Steel Saints

Juniors
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With the Broncos struggling, that is not going to help with the ratings. At a time like this, a second Brisbane side would've been handy.

It feels like the NRL has put all their eggs in the Broncos basket hoping they make finals every year and go deep in September to bolster tv ratings. But not having a second Brisbane team is hurting the game in more ways than one. There is one less pathway for Brisbane youngsters to come through. And in a financial sense, with no second Brisbane team, it seems like the NRL has left money on the table.
 

tri_colours

Juniors
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Thursday Cowboys v Roosters

Metro 314k (Syd 194k Melb 4k Bris 103k Adel 5k Perth 8k)
Regional NSW & Qld 201k
Fox League 218k
Nationally = 733k
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Fri N NRL Rabbitohs v Tigers
Metro 307,000 (Syd 180. Qld 100)
Regional 199,000
Foxs: 268,000
Total 774,000

Titans v Warriors Fox 224,000 Data: Oztam

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#FoxLeague Raiders v Storm 314,000
Broncos v Bulldogs 278,000
Sharks v Panthers 195,000
Total: 787k
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SUNDAY AFTERNOON NRL LIVE

Nine Knights v Eels

Metro 308,000(syd. 191, Qld 117) gem?
Fox 292k
Total: 600k + Gem + Regional

Sts v Manly 215

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weekly Total = 3.3m (missing about 280k)

source Media week / media spy
 
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LeagueXIII

First Grade
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NRL headquarters becoming master spruikers these days, i think that's the first time we have beaten afl on Thursday or Friday night since it came back and it was a very minor win, i think channel 9 will be pretty underwhelmed with the results this year. V'landys has definitely got the media on side at the moment though.

Of course he has, he's given them what they wanted in the broadcast deal.
 
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