2020 State of Origin - Game 1

[84 Baby]

What’s your excuse for that over rated pass and kick 7, absolutely transparent last night and no criticism from Gus and may I say Hindy. Missed goal kicks which could be the only reason he’s in the side as offers next to nothing in creative general play. Can tackle , given all his faults I prefer Moses as at least he can attack , Cleary is a myth.

DCE, not a noted goal kicker, which was even pointed out by Gus last night, hit 2 from the sideline in almost identical position that Chinry missed 2

 

[hindy111]

On Gould he reminds me of Donald Trump tbh.l with his ego. He at times is a full blown wanker. He handed out 5yr contracts to everyone including Whare after 2 knee Recos...
I reckon he is smart and knows how to set up juniors base. But he makes mistakes and blames others which as an adult I find very f**king childish.

 

[hindy111]

DCE, not a noted goal kicker, which was even pointed out by Gus last night, hit 2 from the sideline in almost identical position that Chinry missed 2

So?
Moses nailed 3 from sideline and missed one from infront that cost us imo a grand final appearance. These things happen.

 

[hindy111]

There’s a big difference between cap restricted regular season selections to virtually unlimited selection of the best 34 players in almost the world.

Reality is these guys are usually on holidays early October.
This year they've been in some god dam bubble for 10mths. They are not Robots. And they have been asked to play till end of November. Talk about a raw deal. I take my hats off too them. I doubt people understand the sacrifices these guys are making

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We needed tries in the last 15 minutes so Freddy takes Paulo off?

Paulo was gassed from all the work he had to do in defence. It's hard to carry a forward like him in Origin. Everyone needs to be a worker.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What he said was correct though. Guth was beaten by Capewell who was busted.

Every player in the game misses a tackle here and there, especially when isolated. Gutherson missed one tackle, in a one-on-one situation, from about 34 attempts. He was pushed off by a bigger forward. If Capewell was busted he wouldn't have played. In fact later on when his injury affected him he was removed.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Tupou was lazy as fk when Gagai beat Wighton.
Tupou is jogging and then decides to chase Coates..too little too late..then throws a dumbarse pass which Munster scoops up and scores...2 bad plays which directly led to tries

It was a dumb pass but we were chasing points and Munster still had plenty of work to do to score. As for being lazy on the chase, Tupou did heaps of work in that game. He made 26 runs, allowing JAC to bludge on his wing.

 

[84 Baby]

So?
Moses nailed 3 from sideline and missed one from infront that cost us imo a grand final appearance. These things happen.

I only deal in facts

 

[84 Baby]

Reality is these guys are usually on holidays early October.
This year they've been in some god dam bubble for 10mths. They are not Robots. And they have been asked to play till end of November. Talk about a raw deal. I take my hats off too them. I doubt people understand the sacrifices these guys are making

Firstly the players in these games are being handsomely compensated. They were stuck in the bubble for the season in order to earn their regular pay. If you consider their “ordeal” a sacrifice, you need to check your definition.
Secondly these are “one-off” games with very broad selection criteria. If a player doesn’t perform, their spot is rightly at risk. Sure there’ll be consideration for possibility of return to form but rep teams aren’t beholden to the same contracts as clubs.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Paulo was gassed from all the work he had to do in defence. It's hard to carry a forward like him in Origin. Everyone needs to be a worker.

He was gassed from all the decoys he ran, NSW thought it was better to have Saifiti or Jurbo jog the ball up

 

[IFR33K]

What’s your excuse for that over rated pass and kick 7, absolutely transparent last night and no criticism from Gus and may I say Hindy. Missed goal kicks which could be the only reason he’s in the side as offers next to nothing in creative general play. Can tackle , given all his faults I prefer Moses as at least he can attack , Cleary is a myth.

Pretty harsh assessment there.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He was gassed from all the decoys he ran, NSW thought it was better to have Saifiti or Jurbo jog the ball up

Arthur's also prefers to use him after a quick play-the-ball. If he was being used as a battering ram he would've made more runs.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Apart from one run Jnr looked pretty ineffective in his second stint. I kept checking if he was still on the field and eventually he wasnt. I agree he was used poorly.
The NSW second half was reminiscent of many ive seen this year watching my beloved Eels.

 

[hindy111]

Pretty harsh assessment there.

Agree. Id swap Moses for Cleary every day of the week.

 

[Delboy]

Pretty harsh assessment there.

Not harsh at all, Gus has been talking him up since he signed him and most of the media fell into line so as not to upset Beestinghead. How he’s a rep player is surprising, as going back I don’t think he’s even as good Brett Kimmorley.

Each to our own, don’t rate him as basically he’s a dud in attack

 

[Matty Bhoy]

It’s almost like Cleary is, dare I say it... a downhill skier.

 

[IFR33K]

Not harsh at all, Gus has been talking him up since he signed him and most of the media fell into line so as not to upset Beestinghead. How he’s a rep player is surprising, as going back I don’t think he’s even as good Brett Kimmorley.

Each to our own, don’t rate him as basically he’s a dud in attack

Come on Delboy, you’re smarter then that. The kid is 22 and just came off a great season, yet you’re comparing him to a former premiership winning, origin and Australian halfback, that played 300 games??!!! No one is saying he’s the greatest half around, but he’s a well composed half, that defends well and kicks goals. He had a far better season than our half.

The way you’re reacting somebody would think he’s just completed his 7th season and been partly responsible for a straight sets exit... oh wait.

 

[hineyrulz]

Not harsh at all, Gus has been talking him up since he signed him and most of the media fell into line so as not to upset Beestinghead. How he’s a rep player is surprising, as going back I don’t think he’s even as good Brett Kimmorley.

Each to our own, don’t rate him as basically he’s a dud in attack

Yep spot on.


After 6 Origin games


0 tries
0 try assists
0 line breaks
0 line break assists


Gutho has him covered in one game from centre, he’s the new age Brett Funch with a bigger chin and better Teef.

 

[hineyrulz]

Come on Delboy, you’re smarter then that. The kid is 22 and just came off a great season, yet you’re comparing him to a former premiership winning, origin and Australian halfback, that played 300 games??!!! No one is saying he’s the greatest half around, but he’s a well composed half, that defends well and kicks goals. He had a far better season than our half.

The way you’re reacting somebody would think he’s just completed his 7th season and been partly responsible for a straight sets exit... oh wait.

He’s played 6 Origin games and provided SFA in attack, the other night his kicking game was woeful and even his goal kicking let the team down. He’s an overrated plodder, Luai and API provided all the spark for the Riff all year and he took all the credit.

 

[IFR33K]

He’s played 6 Origin games and provided SFA in attack, the other night his kicking game was woeful and even his goal kicking let the team down. He’s an overrated plodder, Luai and API provided all the spark for the Riff all year and he took all the credit.

He’s one of the best young half’s in the game. Who’s overrated him? Not sure anyone here has said he’ll be an immortal. The majority of NSW key players were poor on Wednesday. I think you’re showing too much attention to the chin, and your dislike of him is showing.