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2020 Super League

TDD91

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Sezer bossed it for Huddersfield according to a lot of reports, Wakefield fans were very complimentary of him after their preseason game as well.

Wakey could be in trouble this season now that Brough could be done with a knee injury, as well as other injuries they've got, Friday's game really was an early relegation 4 pointer and they didn't really show up apparently.


Wigan Reserves smashed Widnes Reserves today, 52-10, with Harry Smith getting 2 tries in the first half before coming off at half time, so that's an early indication that he's possibly starting against Castleford next week.
 

adamkungl

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What's the structure of the reserve league? Is it a full 27 rounds mirroring Super League?
 

TDD91

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What's the structure of the reserve league? Is it a full 27 rounds mirroring Super League?

No, it's a bit of an odd structure. 14 teams playing 18 rounds, with no playoffs. Season finishes at the end of August, with the top placed team winning the league.

Very odd that the U18s structure is also 14 teams playing 18 rounds, but includes a 4 team playoff!
 

Timmah

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29 rounds ? Wow ! I guess there's no such thing as too much footy :/

I love the NRL but even I tune out for a while in those middle of the season rounds.
It gets broken up by the Challenge Cup thankfully, which for the majority of fans means a week off from footy at multiple points. It definitely shortens the off-season lol
 

Perth Red

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SL clubs are still very much reliant on game day revenue, hence the number of games played.
 

Perth Red

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More game days, at the expense of
More repeats
More injuries and fatigue
Larger squad sizes
Less offseason preparation
All resulting in lower quality.

Such a short sighted view.

not as bad as the old days when winter weather would create a backlog and you could end up playing 5 games in two weeks!
 

deluded pom?

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No, it's a bit of an odd structure. 14 teams playing 18 rounds, with no playoffs. Season finishes at the end of August, with the top placed team winning the league.

Very odd that the U18s structure is also 14 teams playing 18 rounds, but includes a 4 team playoff!
Only in rugby league.
 

adamkungl

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We all know Super League is impacting its quality to scrape a few extra ticket sales.
I wonder if the payoff is even worth it.

If a club has an average crowd of 10,000 over 29 rounds, to hit the same total of 290,000 tickets with 6 less games (the loop fixtures) they'd need to average 12608, or an increase of 26%

It seems like a lot, but how many outside a handful of die-hards are going every week? Most people, especially working class families, have a limited budget for leisure and sports. If most people can afford 5 games a year (eg.) it doesn't matter if you have 11 home games or 14, you're still getting the same money out of them. So less games would mean a higher average if this spend is less spread out. And the lower overall quality makes Super League less of a priority for that spend.

With higher week to week quality and less games, could clubs raise their crowds by more than 20%?
 

TDD91

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Toronto Wolfpack 10-28 Castleford Tigers (FT)
Leeds Rhinos 0 - 16 Hull FC (HT)

Leeds aren't even close to being in it atm.
 

Walter sobchak

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Easy win for hull fc in the end away to the rhinos. 30-4

Very pleasing to see a fit and injury free Andre savelio having a great game. Leeds fans will have to be patient and accept that they are a club in transition and will continue to be so for the next 2-3 years at best until their terrific and highly talented kids mature.
 

tumbidragon

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What is this sorcery! All our amazing doyen's of RL said people would be flocking to see the great SBW run around in RL once more. Hanging from rafter and branch just to catch a glimpse of the man himself! Yet, Goly G! Looks like more of a crowd show up week in week out at the Gold Coast to watch Keegan Hipgrave lace a boot.
Quality investment.
 

adamkungl

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Eye-opener for Toronto and SBW with Castleford taking them fairly comfortably.
Experienced and classy Cas with too much talent across the park accustomed to Super League while the Wolfpack strugglde with the pace of the game and have too many weak points in key positions.
Toronto will improve as they get used to upgrade in quality, but the bigger question for me is whether they have enough players that are up to this level. While they have a sprinkling of stars, there are a number of players who have spent a lot of years at Championship level. When the 23 man squad starts to feel the fatigure, this will become an even bigger issue.

3 points for Danny Richardson. Focal point of the attack, always had 2 or 3 options running angles off him and usually picked the right one.
2 McShane controlled the middle with poise and allowed Richardson and Trueman to roam and attack with ease. Stark comparison to the disjointed playmaking of the Wolfpack.
1 Miloudi. Wolfpack's best player in attack, with direct involvement in their 2 tries.

For Cas, the 3 starting props Watts, Millington and Milner led the way, while their playmakers used the good field position to cut the Wolfpack to shreds. Richardson is definitely one to watch while Trueman has already gone touring with the GB Lions. Quality all-English halves pairing assisted well by McShane and Rankin. Not a whole heap to say, a quality team performance with everyone making their contributions known.

Starting with the positives for Toronto, they never got completely blown away. If they tidy up the discipline and get used to the pace, they'll be at least competitive. But. The playmaking combinations are extremely limited in what they can offer at this level. It's only round 1 but I can say with some confidence that McCrone, Mellor, Wilkin, Wallace, Ackers are not going to cut it if they want to play finals. McCrone's first touch being an intercept pass wasn't surprising.
Sonny Bill Williams, the man of the moment, had a fair few moments to forget in his Super League debut. Obviously doesn't have his timing right yet. No doubt he'll get there, but in the meantime needs to put his head down, run hard and get tackled instead of looking for the pass every play.
Hakim Miloudi was the best player for Toronto, showing glimpses of the French flair of old. Of their players who have spend a lot of time below SL level, here's one that I reckon can make a big impact with the step up. Reign in some of the more extravagant passing attempts (which the whole team was guilty of) and his impact would be all positive.

International watch -

Toronto feature an interesting sprinkling of talent from all over. Maybe they could get better value out of their contracts by leaning into this and looking for under the radar talent from tier 2 test squads and local competitions.
Hakim Miloudi (France) was their best player. Hasn't spent too much time in the France squad over the years. The national setup needs to rectify the situation with their first grade players showing limited interest because there is a good team in there if they can get them all together.
The Ireland contingent in Kay, Mullally, and Singleton played well and seem comfortable at this level. Also featuring Leutele (Samoa), Russell (Scotland), Springer (France) and of course SBW whose allegiance will be of interest for some time.

None of the more exotic internationals for Cas, but their England hopefuls (Watts, Milner, Trueman, Richardson, Eden) did their chances no harm with professional performances across the board. Mata-utia will be hoping to keep his name in the mix for Samoa despite playing across the other side of the world.
 

Warriors Fever

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What is this sorcery! All our amazing doyen's of RL said people would be flocking to see the great SBW run around in RL once more. Hanging from rafter and branch just to catch a glimpse of the man himself! Yet, Goly G! Looks like more of a crowd show up week in week out at the Gold Coast to watch Keegan Hipgrave lace a boot.
Quality investment.
? The crowd was a sellout just under 20000. And looks like a lot of that crowd watched both games- what are you saying?
 

adamkungl

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What is this sorcery! All our amazing doyen's of RL said people would be flocking to see the great SBW run around in RL once more. Hanging from rafter and branch just to catch a glimpse of the man himself! Yet, Goly G! Looks like more of a crowd show up week in week out at the Gold Coast to watch Keegan Hipgrave lace a boot.
Quality investment.

wtf are you on about lol
 

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