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2021 Knights rep players

Old dog

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Think Mann is versatile enough without being very good in any position but I think right centre his best.
Our criticism of him was due to spending whole game in positions he wasn’t good at, 5/8, F/b, hooker all of which he changed positions regularly and often with others changing around him. Criticism was levelled due to us losing and as he was in a critical position he copped it, not undeserving. Obviously Qld need versatility in case of injury and he is the one, 18th man should suit him well
 

perverse

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Think Mann is versatile enough without being very good in any position but I think right centre his best.
Our criticism of him was due to spending whole game in positions he wasn’t good at, 5/8, F/b, hooker all of which he changed positions regularly and often with others changing around him. Criticism was levelled due to us losing and as he was in a critical position he copped it, not undeserving. Obviously Qld need versatility in case of injury and he is the one, 18th man should suit him well
It's not just that he was bad at playing those positions, which he was... but he was also making fundamental, basic errors like unforced drop balls etc at critical moments. He and Hoy absolutely cost us matches this year through just not being able to execute the very basics of the game - like catching the ball. That's where the real frustration was for mine. I get that we were down on troops and he had to fill in elsewhere, but AT THE VERY LEAST you could expect a guy of his experience to get the fundamentals right. He just couldn't, and got worse as the season wore on too. His temperament is really fragile for a guy of his age and experience.

Compare the above to a guy like Jones, who has filled in at centre. I don't expect Jones to come on and be a gun centre, but at least he gets the basics right. Catches the ball. Makes his tackles. You can play out of position and still not look like a complete dunce by simply not f**king up every other time you go near the ball. Mann couldn't even manage that. His utility is a myth. A utility is servicable in many positions. Mann isn't, he just pretends to be.
 

Yosh

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Personally I hope the Knights build a team around character and not solely on talent. I guess Mann has character in spades so I don't mind having him in the top 30 roster. Just hope he only has to play a small role and not be a main spine player.
 

slotmachine

First Grade
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If he gets a small deal for two years with the intention that he's playing reserves if everyone is fit that isn't the end of the world.

In terms of the origin thing, QLD have scored one try in two games with an aggregate score of 76-6. It's a team of absolute scrubs so Kurt Man will fit right in.
 

Burwood

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Gladys isn't the idiot ignoring the restrictions. It's the f**king nongs in Sydney that won't stay home.

After 12 months of her and the media continuously saying how special NSW is and how we don’t need to do lockdowns like in Victoria.
 

TooheysNew

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After 12 months of her and the media continuously saying how special NSW is and how we don’t need to do lockdowns like in Victoria.
She literally cannot win in this. There's always somebody blaming her.

Locks down. People complain and ignore it.

Doesn't lock down, people complain that she should have.

Tries to allow people to use common sense. People complain that she should close all businesses.

There's no right answer. There's just least wrong.
 

Jono078

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She literally cannot win in this. There's always somebody blaming her.

Locks down. People complain and ignore it.

Doesn't lock down, people complain that she should have.

Tries to allow people to use common sense. People complain that she should close all businesses.

There's no right answer. There's just least wrong.
Really amazing how divisive it is.

Just on the Newy Origin matter.. I couldn't stand the petition that was out there about cancelling origin, especially because I know those sharing it would not sign it if it were their favorite sport.

But it's so naive to think origin is the sole reason COVID would come here.. There was a boxing match, other NRL matches, other sporting events, people still travelling between Sydney and Newy.. It will make it's way here with or without origin.. Sydney is the perfect example, it didn't have an origin and look at it now..

Needed to get that off my chest.
 

perverse

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She was taking credit for other peoples hard work (medical workers, contact tracers), and a good dash of luck... and has been incredibly braggadocious about it until now. They knew this was the delta strain and treated it like other outbreaks, effectively rolling the dice with a known hyper contagious strain. They had the info and acted too slowly, trying to ease into restrictions when it's been shown countless times - even with lesser strains - that hard and fast is the correct approach if you want to kill it off quickly and get back the business. She now gets treated with kids gloves by the Murdoch media, when they ran headlines like Dictator Dan. The reason this is so politicised is due to the practical monopoly the Murdoch media has in this country - and because Gladys and other politicians are now responding to this virus with political optics in mind first, economic considerations second and medical outcomes somewhere out the back.

She wouldn't even use the word lockdown early on in press conferences out of fear of looking like an idiot for bragging about how well she's handled this period of the pandemic. Gladys is very quick to take credit for the great work of contact tracers for previous outbreaks of lesser strains, but completely unwilling to take responsibility for incidents like the Ruby Princess - and constantly points the finger at the public rather than her own policy and lack of action. It's cowardly and pathetic. I've got no sympathy for her, and hope that she loses her job in the next election. The Liberal response to this virus at a state and federal level has been nothing short of embarrassing. Our vaccine rollout is shameful, our quarantine system is a joke. Don't even get me started on the structuring of our stimulus. Our prime ministers recommendation against all medical authorities advice that under 40's get the AZ vaccine is negligent at best and completely callous at worst - all because he didn't have the forsight to diversify our vaccine plan on as yet unproven vaccines (something that was flagged by the opposition and anyone with a brain late LAST YEAR). Continuing Australias slow creep into a more americanized, private sector-centric healthcare system in the middle of a pandemic is nothing short of abhorrent and cruel.

f**k the Liberal government, and f**k the Murdoch press for giving them a free ride through our political system - manufacturing consent from our politically apathetic and unengaged population.
 

Burwood

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She was taking credit for other peoples hard work (medical workers, contact tracers), and a good dash of luck... and has been incredibly braggadocious about it until now. They knew this was the delta strain and treated it like other outbreaks, effectively rolling the dice with a known hyper contagious strain. They had the info and acted too slowly, trying to ease into restrictions when it's been shown countless times - even with lesser strains - that hard and fast is the correct approach if you want to kill it off quickly and get back the business. She now gets treated with kids gloves by the Murdoch media, when they ran headlines like Dictator Dan. The reason this is so politicised is due to the practical monopoly the Murdoch media has in this country - and because Gladys and other politicians are now responding to this virus with political optics in mind first, economic considerations second and medical outcomes somewhere out the back.

She wouldn't even use the word lockdown early on in press conferences out of fear of looking like an idiot for bragging about how well she's handled this period of the pandemic. Gladys is very quick to take credit for the great work of contact tracers for previous outbreaks of lesser strains, but completely unwilling to take responsibility for incidents like the Ruby Princess - and constantly points the finger at the public rather than her own policy and lack of action. It's cowardly and pathetic. I've got no sympathy for her, and hope that she loses her job in the next election. The Liberal response to this virus at a state and federal level has been nothing short of embarrassing. Our vaccine rollout is shameful, our quarantine system is a joke. Don't even get me started on the structuring of our stimulus. Our prime ministers recommendation against all medical authorities advice that under 40's get the AZ vaccine is negligent at best and completely callous at worst - all because he didn't have the forsight to diversify our vaccine plan on as yet unproven vaccines (something that was flagged by the opposition and anyone with a brain late LAST YEAR). Continuing Australias slow creep into a more americanized, private sector-centric healthcare system in the middle of a pandemic is nothing short of abhorrent and cruel.

f**k the Liberal government, and f**k the Murdoch press for giving them a free ride through our political system - manufacturing consent from our politically apathetic and unengaged population.
Do you mind posting that comment a second time so I can like it again. Cheers.
 

Yosh

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I'm an Australian but have been living in South Korea the past decade or so. Can't believe how similar the situations are politically.

The Delta strain recently started to explode (like last week). Korea has never really had a full lock down but what they do enforce is shutdowns of businesses in entertainment and restaurants by 10pm, and other restrictions like only 20% of buses will run past 10pm etc.. Also, people are not allowed to meet in groups of more than 4. Around two weeks ago, the government announced that it will do away with these restrictions from July onwards. Then BOOM, cases explode. Daily cases were down to 300ish now it's above 1300 and looks like we are headed to 2000 daily cases. Even at its worst last year, it was barely 1000.

So what's the go? They announced last week that from tomorrow (Monday 12th July) from 6pm onwards, noone is allowed to meet in groups of more than 2, plus a bunch of other restrictions. So basically, the government was enticing people to go crazy over the weekend and party before restrictions hit... How does that make sense? Why not have the restrictions go in effect immediately? Cases have only increased exponentially over the past 3 to 4 days.

Furthermore, the news is all over people in their twenties and thirties. Anything related to COVID is blamed on that demographic but statistically, its the people who are in their forties and fifties who have the highest number of cases. Also, any rally that is antigovernmental is heavily condemned, even labelled 'murderous' by news outlets while progovernment rallies are not covered by the news at all. Even when a progovernment rally had over 13,000 people attend and had 82 positive cases come out from that rally, it wasn't on the news.

Left and Right isn't as pronounced as the US but it has a heavy presence. The government at the moment aren't getting many votes from places like Daegu (traditionally conservative) and from people in the twenties and thirties among other demographics. Guess which demographics are targeted all over the news for basically all things negative COVID wise....

In Korea, vaccines are rolled out in order of oldest to youngest (for regular people). So people in their 90s, 80s, 70s and 60s have been fully or partially vaccinated. However, the rest of us don't even know when we can get our first shot. Why hasn't the government acquired more vaccines? Government has never apologized for the lack of vaccines but still go on about how effective the 'K-Measures' (Korea puts K in front of everything they want to market, K-pop, K-cosmetics, K-food etc.), even the Presidents keeps mentioning 'K-Measures' over and over again.

The government needs to get more vaccines. Stop making excuses and going on and on about last year's successful measures and fix this already. Rant over.
 

Apey

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A side of Yosh I never knew existed.

Would you refer to us the K-Knights then and say we should coax K-SBW out of retirement?
 

Yosh

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A side of Yosh I never knew existed.

Would you refer to us the K-Knights then and say we should coax K-SBW out of retirement?
Haha lol... I run a couple of F&B businesses in Korea at it has COVID as personally affected quite a lot so just pent up frustration.
 

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