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2021 Rabbitohs Rumours, Signings And News

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I doubt he would get another offer from the Cows or Bronco's if they are in market if he re-signed for 1 year and Club option second year though
 

callmack1

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Bennett and a Bunny - Expansion team’s bold bid to poach veteran coach-halfback pair: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/ba72c3bafbe101927568566fe3bf2666

‘Crazy to let him go’ - Reynolds stuns with NRL’s first-ever two-point field goal: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/eed6f93ed5cbe3de3add8a19d0ed300a

To market, to market - Reynolds prepared to leave Sydney for new deal: https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/04/09...ynolds-prepared-to-leave-sydney-for-new-deal/
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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Agree. With league wide talent being a hot topic at the moment, a salary cap discount for players brought up through lower grades gives clubs more incentive to develop from within. Though it'd be a big advantage to the bigger markets such as Brisbane and Souths.
You make a good point here.
If you'll permit me the liberty, I'm going to expand on your point here.

I see this issue as an approximate equivalent to the Super League war.
The clubs who would welcome the idea of proper salary cap dispensation are Penrith, Wests, Souths, Newcastle, Parra, Bulldogs, Canberra, STGI, Manly and Cronulla (probably in that order). All with big territories that have strong league roots, and strong junior leagues.
The teams with the most to lose out of this, Melbourne, Roosters, Cowboys, Brisbane, Gold Coast, are the power brokers (News Ltd, Politis) that would do anything and everything to stop this. That's why it won't happen unless we break this power hold.

Roosters, with their 2 junior teams, and penchant for poaching everyone?
Bahahahawahahahah!

Brisbane is a different case now, because they can see the writing on the wall, a second team in Brisbane, not backed by News Ltd, as a major competitor.

It SHOULD happen, but I agree with you it won't happen, for a more amplified reason than the one you stated.

The other thing I add, is you have to be good enough, and lucky enough, to cultivate someone from your junior ranks, AND keep them for a decade, why shouldn't you be rewarded for that effort???

Finally, I'm throwing this one in: F### the Roosters!
 

BotanyBorn&Bred

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They need an app for this forum honestly..
Hey Novo,
How did it feel watching someone from your suburb of upbringing make the leap to first grade?

It's a good feeling, I remember the pride when John Berne (who?), Mario Fenech, Ian Roberts, and Cam McGuiness did.

Steve Mavin disappointed me, unfortunately, I can't let go of that....
 
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That's sad. Especially after the news of Jake Friend yesterday.

The NRL needs to do more to prevent their players from suffering head injuries instead of just offering an extra player in reserve.

Sad about Jake but the right decision and the Chooks will look after him post footy. Wish him and his family all the best.

Should be 2 reserves for concussions with players failing HIA's stood down automatically for 1 game and from practice for a period of time and require a medical clearance to resume training and playing - also an assessment of how they were concussed to reduce or eliminate future occurrences if not foul play that is. - Could be stood down for more games if second failure of HIA and so on.

Do you think it's the tackling styles- tackling players upright instead of around the legs - i know that's what that they do to slow the play the ball down etc and one can get knocked out/concussed when tackling around the legs- head in the wrong place.

But if you running at speed to tackle someone running at speed front on standing upright you have a higher risk of a head clash or your head hitting the shoulder and even a head clash with one of your team mates who is tackling the same way.

I was watching a replay of a game from 2010 so not long ago much much more tackling around the legs and 2 in tackles and very rarely 3 and none of this wrestling and other unsavory tackling styles.

Something has to give though - even at training they do full contact training and no doubt there are head clashes/mild concussions etc in these sessions as well which are rarely reported

NFL have limited contact sessions only 1 allowed per week and some teams have none

Since 2011, the NFL has enshrined in its collective bargaining agreement that only one contact session is allowed per week in training.

'Limiting contact in practice is the biggest opportunity players have for a safer sport,' Nowinski told Sportsmail.

'The NFL has got to the point where 18 per cent of concussions happen in practice — it used to be closer to three-quarters. And it has been shown that the teams who cut out contact in practice have not suffered on the field. They're healthier and develop new ways to tackle efficiently.

'It's a shame that change hasn't happened yet. It's simple maths — you can limit the number of days you get hit in the head.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...-contact-training-to-limit-risk-of-concussion

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/r...midweek-training-limit-concussion-danger.html
 

NovoBunny94

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Hey Novo,
How did it feel watching someone from your suburb of upbringing make the leap to first grade?

It's a good feeling, I remember the pride when John Berne (who?), Mario Fenech, Ian Roberts, and Cam McGuiness did.

Steve Mavin disappointed me, unfortunately, I can't let go of that....
I’ve lived in many suburbs of Newcastle so really i can’t say. I went to the same school as Luke Yates and was in his brothers year? I had pride even though he didn’t really kick on but it was only brought on for his brother.

Also watched Mitch Garbutt when he ran around for Western Suburbs Rosellas who I support through my brother and I was proud although again his career never kicked on.

Proud to say John Sattler, Johns brothers, Luke Walsh etc came from around my area or around
 

Travitoh

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Sad about Jake but the right decision and the Chooks will look after him post footy. Wish him and his family all the best.

Should be 2 reserves for concussions with players failing HIA's stood down automatically for 1 game and from practice for a period of time and require a medical clearance to resume training and playing - also an assessment of how they were concussed to reduce or eliminate future occurrences if not foul play that is. - Could be stood down for more games if second failure of HIA and so on.

Do you think it's the tackling styles- tackling players upright instead of around the legs - i know that's what that they do to slow the play the ball down etc and one can get knocked out/concussed when tackling around the legs- head in the wrong place.

But if you running at speed to tackle someone running at speed front on standing upright you have a higher risk of a head clash or your head hitting the shoulder and even a head clash with one of your team mates who is tackling the same way.

I was watching a replay of a game from 2010 so not long ago much much more tackling around the legs and 2 in tackles and very rarely 3 and none of this wrestling and other unsavory tackling styles.

Something has to give though - even at training they do full contact training and no doubt there are head clashes/mild concussions etc in these sessions as well which are rarely reported

NFL have limited contact sessions only 1 allowed per week and some teams have none

Since 2011, the NFL has enshrined in its collective bargaining agreement that only one contact session is allowed per week in training.

'Limiting contact in practice is the biggest opportunity players have for a safer sport,' Nowinski told Sportsmail.

'The NFL has got to the point where 18 per cent of concussions happen in practice — it used to be closer to three-quarters. And it has been shown that the teams who cut out contact in practice have not suffered on the field. They're healthier and develop new ways to tackle efficiently.

'It's a shame that change hasn't happened yet. It's simple maths — you can limit the number of days you get hit in the head.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...-contact-training-to-limit-risk-of-concussion

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/r...midweek-training-limit-concussion-danger.html

Unfortunately concussion will always be in the game due to the nature of the sport but i believe the NRL can cut a lot of it out by placing responsibility for head high contact on the tackling player. Many swinging arms go unpunished when they should go the way of the shoulder charge (which i loved as a spectacle).

Tackling technique is playing a part and i feel that it's not only a result of the wrestling that has crept into the game but the added emphasis on size over the years. You rarely see a hooker concussing an opponent it seems, more often than not it's the big prop.

I hadn't considered limiting contact training but that would be another proactive way to prevent head injuries. The major American contact sports (and WWE even) are well ahead of us here in Australia when it comes to concussion and we should be following their lead.

End of the day, adding subs for head injuries is doing little to stop them from happening. The game needs to actively aim to prevent them as much as possible.
 

Rabbits20

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With all due respect to Jason and Kyle, there is absolutely no comparison with the effect that losing them has to losing Reyno. The first two are solid but easily replaceable while Reyno is elite and much,much harder to replace. Unfortunately we are going to find that out when it is too late.
Fully agree
 

Souths Till I Die

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With all due respect to Jason and Kyle, there is absolutely no comparison with the effect that losing them has to losing Reyno. The first two are solid but easily replaceable while Reyno is elite and much,much harder to replace. Unfortunately we are going to find that out when it is too late.

Its not about the quality of the players its the fact that the fans 'think' they know what's best for the club. If the fans run the club we would still have Clark and Turner on the books. We also wouldn't have signed Benji Marshall and we would have flicked Gagai by now. The reality is is that all fans have the right to an opinion, as we have a pretty large fan base, but it doesn't make their opinion right.

Personally I think Souths have the best shot at the title since 2014. The fact that Adam Reynolds has done what he has done has left a bad taste in my mouth and if he leaves on bad terms and ruins our season I dont think ill ever forgive him as a player. This is worse than what Crichton and Keary did.

Reynolds is out there calling Brisbane an 'appealing' location. I personally don't understand why he has to do that. By all means speak to Brisbane behind closed doors but by speaking to the media about how its a desirable option youre just pissing Souths fans off.
 
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Souths Till I Die

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handyman2190

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Its not about the quality of the players its the fact that the fans 'think' they know what's best for the club. If the fans run the club we would still have Clark and Turner on the books. We also wouldn't have signed Benji Marshall and we would have flicked Gagai by now. The reality is is that all fans have the right to an opinion, as we have a pretty large fan base, but it doesn't make their opinion right.

Personally I think Souths have the best shot at the title since we've had since 2014. The fact that Adam Reynolds has done what he has done has left a bad taste in my mouth and if he leaves on bad terms and ruins our season I dont think ill ever forgive him as a player. This is worse than what Crichton and Keary did.

Reynolds is out there calling Brisbane an 'appealing' location. I personally don't understand why he has to do that. By all means speak to Brisbane behind closed doors but by speaking to the media about how its a desirable option youre just pissing Souths fans off.
Remember tigers elias,roach and sironen? This is what they did contract time,a form of terrorism, to coerse and intimidate the club and get its supporters to do what many are doing now,petitions , chanting his name and threatening to cancel membership, the life blood of our club. Is this someone who cares about the club? Or someone trying to maximise his profit?
 

Jim Rockford

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Its not about the quality of the players its the fact that the fans 'think' they know what's best for the club. If the fans run the club we would still have Clark and Turner on the books. We also wouldn't have signed Benji Marshall and we would have flicked Gagai by now. The reality is is that all fans have the right to an opinion, as we have a pretty large fan base, but it doesn't make their opinion right.

Personally I think Souths have the best shot at the title since 2014. The fact that Adam Reynolds has done what he has done has left a bad taste in my mouth and if he leaves on bad terms and ruins our season I dont think ill ever forgive him as a player. This is worse than what Crichton and Keary did.

Reynolds is out there calling Brisbane an 'appealing' location. I personally don't understand why he has to do that. By all means speak to Brisbane behind closed doors but by speaking to the media about how its a desirable option youre just pissing Souths fans off.
I appreciate what you're saying but I think you're wrong putting all this on Reyno. I just think the club has a lot of blame in why it's reached the point it has. Why did they feel the need to put out claims about Reynos supposed injury problems? Surely they would know this would hurt his chances of getting another contract at another club. With regards to Jason and Kyle you said "As always, club knows best.", and in that case they did but it doesn't then follow that they are right in everything they do. I, and many others, happen to feel that in the case of Reyno they are very,very wrong. Finally, to say that what Reyno is doing is worse than Keary is astounding. Reyno loves this club to bits and is only trying to look after his family, Keary only loves money and couldn't give a shit about us even though we brought him into first grade and let him win his first premiership.
 

NovoBunny94

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Its not about the quality of the players its the fact that the fans 'think' they know what's best for the club. If the fans run the club we would still have Clark and Turner on the books. We also wouldn't have signed Benji Marshall and we would have flicked Gagai by now. The reality is is that all fans have the right to an opinion, as we have a pretty large fan base, but it doesn't make their opinion right.

Personally I think Souths have the best shot at the title since 2014. The fact that Adam Reynolds has done what he has done has left a bad taste in my mouth and if he leaves on bad terms and ruins our season I dont think ill ever forgive him as a player. This is worse than what Crichton and Keary did.

Reynolds is out there calling Brisbane an 'appealing' location. I personally don't understand why he has to do that. By all means speak to Brisbane behind closed doors but by speaking to the media about how its a desirable option youre just pissing Souths fans off.
Great point
 

Souths Till I Die

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I appreciate what you're saying but I think you're wrong putting all this on Reyno. I just think the club has a lot of blame in why it's reached the point it has. Why did they feel the need to put out claims about Reynos supposed injury problems? Surely they would know this would hurt his chances of getting another contract at another club. With regards to Jason and Kyle you said "As always, club knows best.", and in that case they did but it doesn't then follow that they are right in everything they do. I, and many others, happen to feel that in the case of Reyno they are very,very wrong. Finally, to say that what Reyno is doing is worse than Keary is astounding. Reyno loves this club to bits and is only trying to look after his family, Keary only loves money and couldn't give a shit about us even though we brought him into first grade and let him win his first premiership.

Reynolds doesn't love this club to bits. Thats an insult to Sutton. He turned around and took aim at the board. Reynolds like every other player is only in it for the money. Dont let the door hit you on the way out Reynolds.
 

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