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2021 T20 WORLD CUP in UAE and Oman, Oct-Nov

Eelectrica

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The whole, NZ just go under the radar thing, is getting amusing... World Test Champions, Runners up in two consecutive ODI World Cups (last one on an obscure rule) - maybe we're actually a good cricket side at the moment?

Not sure what to make of T20 tbh, but good cricketers are good cricketers IMO
The under the radar thing is that teams like India are the high flyers and are just expected to make the finals and probably win it. Whereas NZ doesn't get near as much attention and yet keep making the finals while India misses out despite being heavily favoured.

Us making the finals is actually my biggest surprise. Pakistan have been a good T20 side for a while, so no real surprise there. Just never know which Pakistan team is going to show up game day. They've been fairly consistent though...
 

TheParraboy

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The whole, NZ just go under the radar thing, is getting amusing... World Test Champions, Runners up in two consecutive ODI World Cups (last one on an obscure rule) - maybe we're actually a good cricket side at the moment?

Not sure what to make of T20 tbh, but good cricketers are good cricketers IMO

Haven't got the trophy you want the most though :sunglasses:


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TheParraboy

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Pakistan have been a good T20 side for a while, so no real surprise there. Just never know which Pakistan team is going to show up game day. They've been fairly consistent though...

Haydos is their batting consultant. They have been undefeated since he started...
 

blaza88z

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NZ a population of about 5 million people competing in a sport they obviously get behind back in NZ but you couldn't say that worship it like they do in India, India has a population of well over 1 billion people.

It's remarkable India haven't made the finals at least, they have the biggest T20 league going around. The cricketing world stops while the IPL takes place, you get on facebook and they'll lead you to believe Kohli is the second coming of Don Bradman (he goes to water every time India require a big innings from him, the team seems to follow him in that regard). How he is still the captain has me beaten, Indian cricket is 100% all about Kohli and Kohli consistently fails in high pressure games, yet if you try put that across to any Indian fan you'll be lucky to get out alive.

India's biggest success in recent times was when India beat Australia in Australia in a Test series, ironically.. Kohli left that tour early. I don't think it's a coincidence.

Is NZ over achieving? I don't know, I try not to look at it like that, they've done well and deserve everything they've achieved, India on the other hand.. what can anyone possibly say to excuse their embarrassing displays against the top teams? 10 wicket loss to Pakistan, 8 wicket loss to NZ.. they'll probably beat Scotland in emphatic fashion but it counts for nothing.

I have seen the common excuse from Indians "IPL has ruined our players", how? I highly doubt playing T20 cricket on the cusp of a T20 world cup is ruining anyone, they're just not as good as their captain leads them to believe that they are. That's what it boils down to me, if they have the nerve to remove their national hero from captaincy, I suspect Indian cricket will nearly instantly get better results. I also think Kohli will sook it up and won't be the same player that he once was, having said that.. it's been over 700 days since he last scored a century for India.

Gone on a bit here but nothing agitates me more than the way Indians carry on about their cricket team, they've won fkn nothing, not since Dhoni.
 

King-Gutho94

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The whole, NZ just go under the radar thing, is getting amusing... World Test Champions, Runners up in two consecutive ODI World Cups (last one on an obscure rule) - maybe we're actually a good cricket side at the moment?

Not sure what to make of T20 tbh, but good cricketers are good cricketers IMO
I think after the kiwis embarrassed themselves over here in Australia 2 years ago they lost a bit of respect justified or not.

Until they can beat Australia in test matches the Australian public still look at them as a useless little brother.

They can handle every other nation its more mental when it comes to Australia
 

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I think after the kiwis embarrassed themselves over here in Australia 2 years ago they lost a bit of respect justified or not.

Until they can beat Australia in test matches the Australian public still look at them as a useless little brother.

They can handle every other nation its more mental when it comes to Australia
Probably…

That series was a clusterf**k for us…. That said, we’re #1 atm imo
 

TheParraboy

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It's remarkable India haven't made the finals at least, they have the biggest T20 league going around. The cricketing world stops while the IPL takes place,


I actually give India some slack (a little bit) this time around

The IPL is a blessing as well as a curse for them. Due to the money and amount of games played , mentally it would be draining, particularly for Indian based players. Due to covid the competition got postponed till just before the WC. Throw in the covid bubbles and Team India were always there for the taking against the better sides, even though on paper they were clear favorites
 

King-Gutho94

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I actually give India some slack (a little bit) this time around

The IPL is a blessing as well as a curse for them. Due to the money and amount of games played , mentally it would be draining, particularly for Indian based players. Due to covid the competition got postponed till just before the WC. Throw in the covid bubbles and Team India were always there for the taking against the better sides, even though on paper they were clear favorites

I bet your bottom dollar there 1st game will be against a minnow next year in Australia so they can ease into the tournament

Didn't help they got there 2 hard games straight up and couldn't settle into the tournament.
 

blaza88z

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I actually give India some slack (a little bit) this time around

The IPL is a blessing as well as a curse for them. Due to the money and amount of games played , mentally it would be draining, particularly for Indian based players. Due to covid the competition got postponed till just before the WC. Throw in the covid bubbles and Team India were always there for the taking against the better sides, even though on paper they were clear favorites

It just doesn't seem that draining to me, playing a 40 over game once every few days, getting paid all sorts of money.. if that's what they are calling draining, sign me up.

Covid would have been more of a distraction than the IPL, being in bubbles and all of that stuff that you probably would rather not do. It sucked at the time when we were getting flogged by Bangladesh but it turns out maybe they knew what they were doing.
 

Eelectrica

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If there is one team who won't be overlooking NZ, it's England. Red alert sirens will be blaring. NZ won't be overawed by England either having gone toe to toe and not actually lost.

When we faced England earlier I think we were beaten before the game even began such is the hold they have on us. I know we won the ODI series last year, but the scars they've inflicted these last few years run deep.
 

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