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2022 PF Sat - Penrith 32-12 South Sydney @ Accor

Finals Week 3: Penrith v South Sydney

  • Penrith Panthers

    Votes: 52 82.5%

  • South Sydney Rabbitohs

    Votes: 10 15.9%

  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
Fangs

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Bazal said:
Penrith have been amazingly lucky that this current crop of juniors just about all stayed fit and made the step up to become the players they are, and not a pack of Connor Broadhursts, Tom Humbles and Jakob Lokos
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Luck is involved but I think conditioning has something to do with it too. If you play a high contact sport and you are overweight like Latrell you will get injured. Or you do less work on the field to save yourself. I don't think Penrith have too many fatsos on the books and they are relatively young as well.

We also do the junior thing better than most clubs. I can't remember the last time a player debuted for Penrith and looked like they didn't belong in first grade.
 
Vic Mackey

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SDM said:
Spot on, one of the biggest flogs on here, and impossible to have a logical conversation with. Far too stupid for that. But in saying that, I want Penriff to win, Parra can't beat Souffs.
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Bazal said:
Its such a smug f**ken comment hey? Parra went through a million years of dominating the lower grades, winning useless club championships and still haven't won the f**ken comp. Lower grade success is almost meaningless. Those players may never grow past that level of footy, they might cop a series of bad injuries and fade away, they might go on Mormon missions (is that still fashionable?)

Penrith have been amazingly lucky that this current crop of juniors just about all stayed fit and made the step up to become the players they are, and not a pack of Connor Broadhursts, Tom Humbles and Jakob Lokos
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The funny thing is a lot of them haven’t changed. They were spewing this dynasty stuff a decade ago when they had DWZ, Moylan, waqa Blake, RCG, Cartwright, Latu etc

TBF if you want to see real f*#Kwit supporters just wait until the tigers have some success. 2035 is gunna be a great year.
 
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betcats said:
This is true sadly. Success in developing players combined with success with the NRL team just means we have a lot of balls to juggle. Its hard to balance keeping an already successful NRL squad with keeping the right kids coming in from our development pathways, will be plenty of hard decisions for the next few years. If we get them right we are looking at a great few years if not we could quickly fall back into the pack. 2023 will see us fall back a little bit but I think come 2024 we will bounce back strongly, we have some great kids in 17-21 age bracket who will start to filter through into the top grade over the next 18 or so months.
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Its unlikley another team stuffs it up as much as the Cows did. Letting go Ponga, Kikau, B Smith, J Hughes to keep Coote, Cooper, Granville, Morgan. They're lucky they arent a Sydney team.
 
Bazal

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Fangs said:
Luck is involved but I think conditioning has something to do with it too. If you play a high contact sport and you are overweight like Latrell you will get injured. Or you do less work on the field to save yourself. I don't think Penrith have too many fatsos on the books and they are relatively young as well.

We also do the junior thing better than most clubs. I can't remember the last time a player debuted for Penrith and looked like they didn't belong in first grade.
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True, it plays a role. But you look at a guy like Danny Sullivan or Greg Waddell, and that's kind of what I mean by fading away with injuries. Conditioning doesn't do a lot there, it's mostly luck.

It's also definitely luck that basically a whole crop of juniors turned into guns. When does that ever happen? It was good management that kept them, but there's a huge whack of luck and the point is to count on that continuing for the current Flegg and SG Ball squads is pretty pie in the sky.
 
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Bazal said:
True, it plays a role. But you look at a guy like Danny Sullivan or Greg Waddell, and that's kind of what I mean by fading away with injuries. Conditioning doesn't do a lot there, it's mostly luck.

It's also definitely luck that basically a whole crop of juniors turned into guns. When does that ever happen? It was good management that kept them, but there's a huge whack of luck and the point is to count on that continuing for the current Flegg and SG Ball squads is pretty pie in the sky.
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Cleary is 24, Luai 24.

You lock those halves in for 5-10 years.

We won SG Ball
In the Flegg GF
In The NSW Cup GF

So there is a huge pool of players to put with them.
 
Fangs

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Bazal said:
True, it plays a role. But you look at a guy like Danny Sullivan or Greg Waddell, and that's kind of what I mean by fading away with injuries. Conditioning doesn't do a lot there, it's mostly luck.

It's also definitely luck that basically a whole crop of juniors turned into guns. When does that ever happen? It was good management that kept them, but there's a huge whack of luck and the point is to count on that continuing for the current Flegg and SG Ball squads is pretty pie in the sky.
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Yep those guys do exist. Shawn Blore may be another one. He can't stay on the field.

Its about balance in the end. You can only polish a turd so much. We still go to the market to fill gaps. Korisau, Capewell and Kikau for instance.
 
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If Panthers go back to back it will have to be one of the most impressive achievements ever considering they're doing it with a weak gutted dog on the bench.

Their true weakness is their bench if they lose a second rower to injury through the game. They rely heavily on being able to get 80 (or close to 80) minutes out of Kikau, Martin and Yeo.
 
Rhino_NQ

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mxlegend99 said:
If Panthers go back to back it will have to be one of the most impressive achievements ever considering they're doing it with a weak gutted dog on the bench.

Their true weakness is their bench if they lose a second rower to injury through the game. They rely heavily on being able to get 80 (or close to 80) minutes out of Kikau, Martin and Yeo.
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I'm sure if martin had to add a few minutes to his normal shift he would demand another 40k a year
 
yobbo84

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mxlegend99 said:
If Panthers go back to back it will have to be one of the most impressive achievements ever considering they're doing it with a weak gutted dog on the bench.

Their true weakness is their bench if they lose a second rower to injury through the game. They rely heavily on being able to get 80 (or close to 80) minutes out of Kikau, Martin and Yeo.
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You're right. Panthers would kill for the superstars on our bench like Chee Kam or Nikorima.
 
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In respect of the Tatola chicken wing, he does the same tackle mid season he gets a week or two from the MRC. That sums there consistency up really. It was worthy of a suspension, but let’s be real was not going to happen leading into a PF.
 
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