2022 PF Sat - Penrith 32-12 South Sydney @ Accor

[Bazal]

Except for the 6 teams that finished ahead of you....

Bro that's pleb maffs.

Senior Constables at MENSA only use reverse quantum non-Newtonian mathematics and that puts Souffs below everyone else.

Which is obviously above, because reverse non-Newtonian

 

[GongPanther]

Don’t like south’s much , don’t like Penrith much

no idea what to do here

pornhub maybe

Then after three minutes, what are you going to do?

EDIT: Looking at the Souths side, I dare say they are playing ducks & drakes. Surely injuries are going to influence their run on side after talk of players going down during that Sharks game.

 

[Frankus]

This is true sadly. Success in developing players combined with success with the NRL team just means we have a lot of balls to juggle. Its hard to balance keeping an already successful NRL squad with keeping the right kids coming in from our development pathways, will be plenty of hard decisions for the next few years. If we get them right we are looking at a great few years if not we could quickly fall back into the pack. 2023 will see us fall back a little bit but I think come 2024 we will bounce back strongly, we have some great kids in 17-21 age bracket who will start to filter through into the top grade over the next 18 or so months.

Absolutely, we have amazing depth at the moment, can’t keep all of them but we identify what we need, keep them in the system and promote them if they are ready and let go of what we aren’t prepared to pay for a player if they are offered big money elsewhere. Hence why we let go of burton, Naden, kikau, Api, etc.

Bring in Garner to replace Kikau. Promote Kenny to start, bring Luke to the bench.

The bloke who manages and advises on our club roster needs a pay rise.

 

[BunniesMan]

Other NRL teams need to share a wink and nudge and launch a strategic harvest of Penrith juniors. It's just too many riches and other clubs have not been aggressive enough which has allowed Penrith to lock too many of them in. Other clubs need to be confident, recognise young talent, then rip in with a big multi year contract. If Penrith has to compete with big offers for EVERY top teenage talent they'll soon hit salary cap limitations.

Unofficially, other clubs should discuss with each other to ensure raids hit every single talented Penrith junior and not just a small group which would allow them to lock in the rest with less competition

They're favourites for 2 premierships in a row with more talent coming in for the coming years. It represents a failure of other teams scouting departments

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Or a credit to Penrith development pathways?

 

[BunniesMan]

Or a credit to Penrith development pathways?

Well yes that too but the fact that so many of these talented players weren't lured away in time is a failure on the other teams.

The point of the cap is to ensure no one team has too much talent for too long. If one team is doing a great job in development, that should be balanced out by other teams being good enough in recruitment to get a fair share of that talent.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Other NRL teams need to share a wink and nudge and launch a strategic harvest of Penrith juniors. It's just too many riches and other clubs have not been aggressive enough which has allowed Penrith to lock too many of them in. Other clubs need to be confident, recognise young talent, then rip in with a big multi year contract. If Penrith has to compete with big offers for EVERY top teenage talent they'll soon hit salary cap limitations.

Unofficially, other clubs should discuss with each other to ensure raids hit every single talented Penrith junior and not just a small group which would allow them to lock in the rest with less competition

They're favourites for 2 premierships in a row with more talent coming in for the coming years. It represents a failure of other teams scouting departments

Well yes that too but the fact that so many of these talented players weren't lured away in time is a failure on the other teams.

The point of the cap is to ensure no one team has too much talent for too long. If one team is doing a great job in development, that should be balanced out by other teams being good enough in recruitment to get a fair share of that talent.

The point of the cap is to keep teams fiscally responsible so they don't go broke spending money they don't have. Not to punish teams for developing football players.

You're out of Mensa. Please forfeit your hat and t shirt on the way out.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Well yes that too but the fact that so many of these talented players weren't lured away in time is a failure on the other teams.

The point of the cap is to ensure no one team has too much talent for too long. If one team is doing a great job in development, that should be balanced out by other teams being good enough in recruitment to get a fair share of that talent.

Doubtless that you'd expect different treatment if souffs had snatched up a winning crop....

Penrith have lost players over the years, and will continue to lose two or 3 every year. In 2021 it was Burton, Capewell and Momorovski. This year Kikau and Koroisau. That's a third of the team in two years due to salary cap pressure. (Excluding Pangai jnr as he was a 3 month deal)

 

[soc123_au]

Other NRL teams need to share a wink and nudge and launch a strategic harvest of Penrith juniors. It's just too many riches and other clubs have not been aggressive enough which has allowed Penrith to lock too many of them in. Other clubs need to be confident, recognise young talent, then rip in with a big multi year contract. If Penrith has to compete with big offers for EVERY top teenage talent they'll soon hit salary cap limitations.

Unofficially, other clubs should discuss with each other to ensure raids hit every single talented Penrith junior and not just a small group which would allow them to lock in the rest with less competition

They're favourites for 2 premierships in a row with more talent coming in for the coming years. It represents a failure of other teams scouting departments

Ah yes, the Joseph Sualii strategy. How did that work out for you guys? Plucked him out of Glenmore Park straight off his mothers tit into the South’s system. Good plan.

@AlwaysGreen has nailed it. It amazes me how many people don’t understand the role of the salary cap.

You realise that all Penrith juniors aren’t born under the eastern stand at Penrith Park? Edwards, Yeo, Burton, Martin, Fisher-Harris were all bought in from other areas and developed here. Every other club could have picked them up.

Everyone laughs at the Gus 5 year plan, the 5 year part was a media beat up, but he screamed from the hilltops what the plan was. Maybe other clubs should adopt a similar strategy and we would have a competition brimming with talent, more competitive games and more chance of expansion. But no, let’s just raid Penrith…

it’s not even like we invented it. The Storm have been masters of it for 20 years. The Roosters are also great at it. Even South’s do a pretty good job. Other clubs need to just follow a similar formula & get good at development:

 

[ACTPanthers]

Other NRL teams need to share a wink and nudge and launch a strategic harvest of Penrith juniors. It's just too many riches and other clubs have not been aggressive enough which has allowed Penrith to lock too many of them in. Other clubs need to be confident, recognise young talent, then rip in with a big multi year contract. If Penrith has to compete with big offers for EVERY top teenage talent they'll soon hit salary cap limitations.

Unofficially, other clubs should discuss with each other to ensure raids hit every single talented Penrith junior and not just a small group which would allow them to lock in the rest with less competition

They're favourites for 2 premierships in a row with more talent coming in for the coming years. It represents a failure of other teams scouting departments

 

[yobbo84]

Ah yes, the Joseph Sualii strategy. How did that work out for you guys? Plucked him out of Glenmore Park straight off his mothers tit into the South’s system. Good plan.

@AlwaysGreen has nailed it. It amazes me how many people don’t understand the role of the salary cap.

You realise that all Penrith juniors aren’t born under the eastern stand at Penrith Park? Edwards, Yeo, Burton, Martin, Fisher-Harris were all bought in from other areas and developed here. Every other club could have picked them up.

Everyone laughs at the Gus 5 year plan, the 5 year part was a media beat up, but he screamed from the hilltops what the plan was. Maybe other clubs should adopt a similar strategy and we would have a competition brimming with talent, more competitive games and more chance of expansion. But no, let’s just raid Penrith…

it’s not even like we invented it. The Storm have been masters of it for 20 years. The Roosters are also great at it. Even South’s do a pretty good job. Other clubs need to just follow a similar formula & get good at development:

Agreed. Weird thing for him to complain about when I'd argue Souths do junior development and lower grade talent identification as good as anyone - not just local juniors.

If you look at our 17 this week it's a good mix of local juniors (Johnston, Graham, Koloamatangi, Murray), imported juniors (Tass, Ilias), lower grade rejects (Walker, Tatola), moneyball imports (Nicholls, Cook, Sele) and then a couple of star purchases (Mitchell, Arrow).

 

[soc123_au]

Agreed. Weird thing for him to complain about when I'd argue Souths do junior development and lower grade talent identification as good as anyone - not just local juniors.

If you look at our 17 this week it's a good mix of local juniors (Johnston, Graham, Koloamatangi, Murray), imported juniors (Tass, Ilias), lower grade rejects (Walker, Tatola), moneyball imports (Nicholls, Cook, Sele) and then a couple of star purchases (Mitchell, Arrow).

Pretty much. You guys and the Roosters follow a similar formula and it works well. There isn’t a cut and dried template, but clubs need to find what works and then put the effort in. Out and out poaching isn’t a good plan or even a sustainable model.

 

[Someone2]

Souths by 4

 

[Rhino_NQ]

There is no way Klein will miss being in the headlines again. Should be some quality LOLs

 

[some11]

Klein selected to ref another finals match

 

[GreenMachine121]

Then after three minutes, what are you going to do?

EDIT: Looking at the Souths side, I dare say they are playing ducks & drakes. Surely injuries are going to influence their run on side after talk of players going down during that Sharks game.

Takes 15 mins to find something I haven’t seen …..or ah something

anyway can we Segway to more pressing matters

Senior merkinstable Bunniesgoof …… this Mensa thing …. Didn’t it even exhist?

 

[Stinkfinger]

They're favourites for 2 premierships in a row with more talent coming in for the coming years. It represents a failure of other teams scouting departments

Then he lists all Souths premierships.

 

[PANTHERMIKE]

Well yes that too but the fact that so many of these talented players weren't lured away in time is a failure on the other teams.

The point of the cap is to ensure no one team has too much talent for too long. If one team is doing a great job in development, that should be balanced out by other teams being good enough in recruitment to get a fair share of that talent.

Wait, you are actually being serious? This is a piss take right?

 

[Iamback]

From what I hear, Blacktown Workers is a poorly run footy club at the moment. I don't think Penrith are mourning the loss.

There's more talent out there than the Panthers know what to do with. They just get the first dibs and let the Manly's, etc, take some scraps. Just becareful of the Roosters coming in with their chequebooks.

They are the perfect example of a pub league team

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Wait, you are actually being serious? This is a piss take right?

Pride of the league…