2022 Squad: Gains, Losses & Re-signings.

[Inisai Toga]

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As far as I know the recruitment team is 4 people, Hook, Harran, Webb and the finance guy (ie the salary cap).

Don’t tell Possum that; it will ruin his off-season…..

 

[Walpole]

this thread celebrating the Woods signing:

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glorious! we'll be the first team to lose a player trying to emulate a Penrith celebration.

 

[denis preston]

No, the club is definitely gearing up for one more big signing in the forwards department. It's very hard signing quality forwards at the top of their game. Most of them are playing for the successful clubs and have no interest in moving to the dragons. We would have to pay significantly overs to get them, which creates even more problems.

The problem is we just haven't been producing enough quality young forwards, big and strong enough to compete in the NRL. In my view this has been our biggest issue over the last 5 to 10 years. Looking at the players currently being handed development contracts, we may be finally turning a corner. They're not quite there yet, but hopefully we can start to integrate them like we have with the young backs this year.

Also i'd rather Woods & Burgess mentor these young guys rather than Alvaro, Ford & the farmer !

 

[BIG RIG]

Interesting thinking about it that since taking taking over Hook has signed

- Poasa Fa’amusili ( Young prop who was rated quiet we’ll at the Roosters )
- Daniel Alvaro ( Basic Front Rower nothing special )
- Jack Bird ( Coming off 2 major injuries former origin rep - did more than I expected him to do this year )
- Andrew McCullough ( Older rep dummy half - turned out to be a lucky signing with the McInnes injury )
- Gerard Beale ( Was only signed as emergency replacement during bbqgate )
- Josh McGuire ( Veteran rep forward who despite suspensions hasn’t done as bad as some people on here are believing )
- Billy Burns ( Young backrower with potential )
- Francis Molo ( Hard running rep forward only 26 )
- Jaydn Su’a ( Young 23 year old rep forward - with huge potential imo )
- George Burgess ( The riskiest signing out of the lot but could be great value for money if he hits good form )
- Moses Mbye ( Great utility value - people on here acting like his 36 years old and a has been when his only 28 )
- Moses Suli ( Young and super talented centre)
- Aaron Woods ( Will be a good mentor for our younger props )

Overall I don’t think Hook has done that bad in his time with recruitment

 

[Gareth67]

Interesting thinking about it that since taking taking over Hook has signed

- Poasa Fa’amusili ( Young prop who was rated quiet we’ll at the Roosters )
- Daniel Alvaro ( Basic Front Rower nothing special )
- Jack Bird ( Coming off 2 major injuries former origin rep - did more than I expected him to do this year )
- Andrew McCullough ( Older rep dummy half - turned out to be a lucky signing with the McInnes injury )
- Gerard Beale ( Was only signed as emergency replacement during bbqgate )
- Josh McGuire ( Veteran rep forward who despite suspensions hasn’t done as bad as some people on here are believing )
- Billy Burns ( Young backrower with potential )
- Francis Molo ( Hard running rep forward only 26 )
- Jaydn Su’a ( Young 23 year old rep forward - with huge potential imo )
- George Burgess ( The riskiest signing out of the lot but could be great value for money if he hits good form )
- Moses Mbye ( Great utility value - people on here acting like his 36 years old and a has been when his only 28 )
- Moses Suli ( Young and super talented centre)
- Aaron Woods ( Will be a good mentor for our younger props )

Overall I don’t think Hook has done that bad in his time with recruitment

Interesting thinking about it that since taking taking over Hook has signed

- Poasa Fa’amusili ( Young prop who was rated quiet we’ll at the Roosters )
- Daniel Alvaro ( Basic Front Rower nothing special )
- Jack Bird ( Coming off 2 major injuries former origin rep - did more than I expected him to do this year )
- Andrew McCullough ( Older rep dummy half - turned out to be a lucky signing with the McInnes injury )
- Gerard Beale ( Was only signed as emergency replacement during bbqgate )
- Josh McGuire ( Veteran rep forward who despite suspensions hasn’t done as bad as some people on here are believing )
- Billy Burns ( Young backrower with potential )
- Francis Molo ( Hard running rep forward only 26 )
- Jaydn Su’a ( Young 23 year old rep forward - with huge potential imo )
- George Burgess ( The riskiest signing out of the lot but could be great value for money if he hits good form )
- Moses Mbye ( Great utility value - people on here acting like his 36 years old and a has been when his only 28 )
- Moses Suli ( Young and super talented centre)
- Aaron Woods ( Will be a good mentor for our younger props )

Overall I don’t think Hook has done that bad in his time with recruitment

Overall I agree with your comments , however Griffin must now weld this team of spare parts into a functioning , coordinated unit .

This season one could understand why there was no true cohesion between the players- as there were so many newbies in the squad , plus he himself was finding his way around the club .

But in 2022 , or should I say the off-season , he will need to get down to basics with them to ensure that at the very least they do perform as a team , rather than as individuals .

With a couple of early wins under their belt their confidence would grow , that would certainly be a step in the right direction .

 

[Mickov]

Overall I agree with your comments , however Griffin must now weld this team of spare parts into a functioning , coordinated unit .

This season one could understand why there was no true cohesion between the players- as their were so many newbies in the squad , plus he himself was finding his way around the club .

But in 2022 , or should I say the off-season , he will need to get down to basics with them to ensure that at the very least they do perform as a team , rather than as individuals .

With a couple of early wins under their belt their confidence would grow , that would certainly be a step in the right direction .

Agree, also think suspensions and injuries played a major part in the inconsistency, couldn't get the same guys on the field week in week out. obviously BBQ gate didn't help that towards the end.

 

[SBD82]

Interesting thinking about it that since taking taking over Hook has signed

- Poasa Fa’amusili ( Young prop who was rated quiet we’ll at the Roosters )
- Daniel Alvaro ( Basic Front Rower nothing special )
- Jack Bird ( Coming off 2 major injuries former origin rep - did more than I expected him to do this year )
- Andrew McCullough ( Older rep dummy half - turned out to be a lucky signing with the McInnes injury )
- Gerard Beale ( Was only signed as emergency replacement during bbqgate )
- Josh McGuire ( Veteran rep forward who despite suspensions hasn’t done as bad as some people on here are believing )
- Billy Burns ( Young backrower with potential )
- Francis Molo ( Hard running rep forward only 26 )
- Jaydn Su’a ( Young 23 year old rep forward - with huge potential imo )
- George Burgess ( The riskiest signing out of the lot but could be great value for money if he hits good form )
- Moses Mbye ( Great utility value - people on here acting like his 36 years old and a has been when his only 28 )
- Moses Suli ( Young and super talented centre)
- Aaron Woods ( Will be a good mentor for our younger props )

Overall I don’t think Hook has done that bad in his time with recruitment

I could be wrong, but I think that Poasa was signed before Hook joined the club? Bird too?

Anyway, of those signings, I’d say that McCullough was a good signing, given the urgent need for a first grade dummy half and the lack of dummy half options available at the time.

Bird has done well.

I’ve got high hopes for Molo

Beale is Beale (although his signing had nothing to do with BBQgate).

Burns should improve again next season.

Burgess is a gamble.

Suli is a gamble. I don’t personally see the validity of it but I can see the logic

Mbye, Woods, McGuire are all poor signings in my opinion.

I don’t think this is the standard of recruitment that we should be hoping for.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

As far as I know the recruitment team is 4 people, Hook, Harran, Webb and the finance guy (ie the salary cap).

No Millward?

 

[Miller was a legend]

Woods? FFS
Mr perpetual motionless

 

[Gareth67]

Agree, also think suspensions and injuries played a major part in the inconsistency, couldn't get the same guys on the field week in week out. obviously BBQ gate didn't help that towards the end.

Yes you are right Mickov , plenty of suspensions due to the BBQ and in some cases over exuberance by our players .

Hopefully they have mended their ways and also the chaps with the whistles in their mouths find themselves new whipping boys for season 2022 .

By the way , a belated welcome to the forum - enjoy yourself .

 

[Inisai Toga]

The Magic round was also a bloody joke imo. Changed the whole rules and structure of the game and the way the game was played from that point on. Blow outs were ridiculous. The semi-final games were respectable only because they officiated them differently than the games throughout the season.

Covid and Saints BBQ aside, worst year i’ve seen watching football over 50 years. Yes, NRL did well to keep playing but i think the knee jerk reaction we saw around the game resulting from this round lacked any thought or strategy. Curious to see what rules we are going to have next year or will we be wonderfully surprised again..?

 

[Gareth67]

The Magic round was also a bloody joke imo. Changed the whole rules and structure of the game and the way the game was played from that point on. Blow outs were ridiculous. The semi-final games were respectable only because they officiated them differently than the games throughout the season.

Covid and Saints BBQ aside, worst year of football i’ve seen watching football over 50 years. Yes, NRL did well to keep playing but i think the knee jerk reaction we saw around the game lacked any thought or strategy. Curious to see what rules we are going to have next year or will we be wonderfully surprised again..?

We can only hope Inisai that a degree of sanity returns to the game .

 

[George Dragon]

The Magic round was also a bloody joke imo. Changed the whole rules and structure of the game and the way the game was played from that point on. Blow outs were ridiculous. The semi-final games were respectable only because they officiated them differently than the games throughout the season.

Covid and Saints BBQ aside, worst year of football i’ve seen watching football over 50 years. Yes, NRL did well to keep playing but i think the knee jerk reaction we saw around the game lacked any thought or strategy. Curious to see what rules we are going to have next year or will we be wonderfully surprised again..?

We can only hope Inisai that a degree of sanity returns to the game .

This should help bring sanity back

Significant ruling for NRL as ex-Knights James McManus’ $1m concussion lawsuit dismissed

Significant ruling for NRL as ex-Knights star’s $1m concussion lawsuit dismissed

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[mickeylane]

A lot of experience in that front row
Molo
Burgess
Woods
Lawrie
McGuire
Back row
Sims
Sua
Kerr
Bird
Burns
Fuimaono

 

[randomdragon]

i think with us finally a genuine chance of winning charity shield we could start the year on a positive note

 

[Dragonsteve2]

The Magic round was also a bloody joke imo. Changed the whole rules and structure of the game and the way the game was played from that point on. Blow outs were ridiculous. The semi-final games were respectable only because they officiated them differently than the games throughout the season.

Covid and Saints BBQ aside, worst year i’ve seen watching football over 50 years. Yes, NRL did well to keep playing but i think the knee jerk reaction we saw around the game resulting from this round lacked any thought or strategy. Curious to see what rules we are going to have next year or will we be wonderfully surprised again..?

Inasai, your comments on Magic Round are spot on. Looking back on the season we can blame BBQgate for destroying us, an enormous self-inflicted wound. But changing the punishment for high shots mid season cost us dearly. Then backing off once criticism mounted is just so typical of the ramshackle way in which the NRL is administered. Without the Dragons playing on the Finals I should have been able to watch the games stress free. But instead I got angry over the tackles in every game which now barely warranted a penalty whereas mid-season our blokes would have been in the bin and then suspended for weeks.

 

[Evil Emperor Zurg]

This should help bring sanity back

Significant ruling for NRL as ex-Knights James McManus’ $1m concussion lawsuit dismissed

Significant ruling for NRL as ex-Knights star’s $1m concussion lawsuit dismissed

www.foxsports.com.au

Wow. That’s actually quite a big story in the scheme of things. Would like to know more detail.

 

[SnowDragon]

Glad to see more discussions on the signings.

For me, the Woods type signings are not so critical. As long as the they are seen as value signings, it is not like they stop our young guys coming thru. More critically we need depth in such a position.

More critically I’m worried about developing and keeping our youth. We should identify and bring them thru, and our salary cap should allow this.

 

[itsme]

Yeah he is actually a neighbour of mine

So you would know its Peakhurst...not Oatley.

 

[BIG RIG]

So you would know its Peakhurst...not Oatley.

It’s actually Lugarno