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the ratings thread you moron ... most of the data supplied by a fellow fumbler
wookie ...
anything else you need help with ?
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the ratings thread you moron ... most of the data supplied by a fellow fumbler
Don't get abusive now. I sent you blackbox raw data tv ratings. AFL smashes NRL on Fox and on free to air.
Another Bigfooty stooge who thinks victorian rules is the most amazingest awesomest thing in the whole wide world ever...
You guys keep mentioning GWS and Gold coast as if it signals the demise of the AFL.
Yes yes they're thirty year visions we get it Gillian...
you sent rubbish from 2 years ago
you sent rubbish from 2 years ago
you've already been proven wrong from the data from 2021 & 2022
the NRL won the comp v comp in 2021
by about 7 Million season concluded obviously
& in 2022 the lead is currently about 12 Million the aflol has one game left & the NRL has 3
so the NRL will win by about 14.5 to 15 million
in 2023 the NRL will play 12 extra games & when the 9th game comes in another 12 on top of that
so their lead will only grow
thanks for playing
long term ?
haha, last deal Foxtel sat in front of the countries media and told them that they preferred AFL, they would do every thing they could do to make AFL more popular and that they would assist AFL in their nationalisation. After all of that we then bent over the barrel and invited them to roger us some more.you are now morphing into soap dodger clown mode
the dostoevsky novels aren't required ...
Vlandys stated he told the commission foxtel told him that was the limit of what they could spend in 2020 for the NRL .. Vlandys told Delany that if the NRL showed good faith & signed a lower deal then , that if foxtels financial situation changed the NRL would be compensated , Delany agreed , well he certainly hasn't disagreed thats what he said..
Lied about their situation ... maybe , maybe not , but nevertheless they are in a position now to do what they said they would & Vlandys expects this to occur. There is no legal obligation for foxtel to do anything but the implications for not doing anything would be huge.
You think the NRL & Foxtel .. the only 2 parties involved in an agreement can't mutually agree to either completely disolve a contract for a new one , or upgrade the existing one shows how dopey you are ..... ofc they can if they choose to.
Im not saying the NRL will come out right & tell foxtel they won't be included in any future deals if they fail to honour the good faith verbal agreement
but they'll get a wink nod .. okey dokey ... then , see yuz when the new deal comes up for renewal
theres plenty of motivation for foxtel to re negotiate this next deal & simply being hugely out of favour with the ARLC should see the deal corrected accordingly
Link ?
Wookie does an excellent job compiling the data and has an end of year summary. Waiting on this years but recent years NRL is comfortably ahead. Shame it isn't translating into $'s!
www.footyindustry.com
Just in case you`re struggling to get through the article Colk posted :
The highest rating NRL and AwFuL games on Fox Sports don't support your claim.
www.mediaweek.com.au
TV Ratings September 17, 2022: Footy finals dominates ratings
TV Ratings: Seven has experienced another Saturday win thanks to the AFL finals. Seven had a network share of 38.2%.
Wow. The AFL actually really owned the nrl this weekend... Or am I missing something?
Well channel nine could pick a successful qld side like the cowboys to show but of course those muppets would never do that
The narrative that rugby league was doomed in Australia could only be the product of poor administration, not the inherent strength of the game itself.
This was confirmed when the NRL looked at its balance sheet during COVID and noted the game barely owned an asset in the form of bricks and mortar. (The NRL has also since disposed of one of its most valuable assets, its digital media arm, at the behest of its principal broadcasters.)
The “sky falling in” narrative – well supported by News Corp and Nine – was that V’landys was largely responsible for the survival of the game. The purported grave risk to the game’s very survival presented to the public in this period is frankly not borne out by any proper consideration of the game’s overall history. (In contrast, the potential existential threat to the game, and all collision sports, of concussion and CTE has been acted on painfully slowly by the NRL.)
Unfortunately for V’landys (and NRL CEO Andrew Abdo), the absolute key indicator of success and independence in these roles is the negotiation of media rights (as this funds all levels of the game from grassroots to the NRL and State of Origin).
In this regard, they have been completely trumped by the AFL’s CEO Gillon McLachlan. As such, the NRL negotiators must be held directly responsible for underfunding the game in comparison to the AFL for any period in which the AFL rights exceed those of the NRL.
The near complete absence of debate in rugby league media about this issue is extremely concerning. Initial reporting of the issue was almost completely restricted to Roy Masters and Andrew Webster, both of the Sydney Morning Herald. Effectively, the NRL media partners – News Corp and Nine – have completely shut down discussion of this matter and potential criticism of V’landys and Abdo.
To make this even worse, it has been widely reported that Nine bid $500 million per year for the AFL rights, a figure in excess of that paid to rugby league for broadcast rights on Nine between 2023 – 2027. It begs the question – was Nine prepared to sacrifice its current sports partner, rugby league, to acquire the AFL in its stead?
How else could such an offer be viewed given the obvious broadcasting conflicts which would immediately emerge from Nine holding the rights to both AFL and NRL simultaneously? (Foxtel of course were successful with Seven in obtaining the AFL rights up to and including 2031 – again paying overs compared to the NRL rights and thereby showing Foxtel’s continuing bias towards AFL which has existed at that organisation since its inception and the days of Rupert Murdoch speaking publicly in favour of the AFL over rugby league.)
Webster’s SMH article (the paper is owned by Nine) actually appeared to admit that criticism of V’landys and Abdo had been forced upon the SMH by concern from people in the wider rugby league community.
The suggestion that the article was “only written” for this reason again causes concern about the true independence of journalists paid by Foxtel and Nine and their ability to directly criticise the NRL.
Certainly, the AFL deal (and its impacts on rugby league) appear to have been ignored on Foxtel’s nightly NRL360 panel show at the time the deal was released to the media. Discussion around individual finals matches was allowed to continue unabated on NRL360, while the elephant of TV rights sat sunning itself untouched in a corner of the studio, the big picture totally ignored.
Nine’s recent media rights decisions have now directly funded the NRL’s opposition sports in both the AFL and rugby union. Nine paid $100 million to rugby union for three years broadcasting rights while seeking reductions from the NRL for reduced content during the pandemic. Effectively, Nine took the money due to rugby league and handed it to rugby union (a sport that has sought to kill off the independent sport of rugby league for over 120 years). Some loyalty by Nine!
At the same time, Nine has ignored international rugby league (no bid for games during the upcoming Rugby League World Cups in England starting next month) and advertised rugby union widely during important rugby league telecasts such as the State of Origin series. For the NRL to seemingly countenance this behaviour from Nine without public reproach is quite remarkable.
Indeed, V’landys main focus in the Webster SMH article appeared, extraordinarily, to be his claim that the NRL saved Foxtel as a going concern, and this aided the AFL in their record negotiations. That this apparent concern for the sport’s long-term broadcaster’s health was allowed to seemingly overtake concern for the sport itself and its crucial future funding arrangements beggars belief. Perhaps it was a misstatement on V’landys part? If so, it has yet to be corrected in the public domain to my knowledge.
Since then, claims of seeking compensation from Foxtel for breach of a non-existent “no more favourable clause (than the AFL)” in the NRLs written agreement have been pushed out via various media bodies.
One wonders at the reliability of internal NRL legal advice if they truly believe verbal representations will carry any weight in the consideration of a written contract which will most likely exclude anything oral from its very terms.
The extent to which the clubs place pressure on the NRL over this egregious state of affairs will be seen after the finals conclude.
Whichever way the current NRL tries to spin it, the gap in funding with the AFL has proved fatal for NRL Chairmen and CEOs of the past (see David Gallop).
Whether it proves so for V’landys and Abdo is yet to be seen.
What do the AFL's new TV rights mean for the NRL?
The AFL signed a record-breaking deal, but what does it mean for the NRL?www.zerotackle.com
